Kibaki seals amnesty debate
Published on June 2, 2008, 12:00 am; The Standard;
By Alex Ndegwa
President Kibaki appeared to seal the fate of hundreds of post-election violence suspects with the declaration that they will face the law.
While the edict could end debate on an issue that could as well divide his Cabinet down the middle, with anti-amnesty ministers ranged against a pro-amnesty group comprising mostly Rift Valley ODM MPs and Prime Minister Raila Odinga, it is still bound to have far reaching political ramifications in future.
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— On Mon, 6/2/08, Matunda Nyanchama wrote:
On this one, I am with the president.
I would add a small variation: let investigations determine who is and who is not culpable. And perhaps (and a BIG perhaps) then one can consider amnesty.
If we ever hope to build a nation in which laws are respected, we shouldn’t circumvent the legal process. Doing so (and blanket amnesty would do that) would be sending the wrong message: that you can do what you want (including murdering your neighbours, touching their houses, etc.) and get away with it.
As well the government should charge the marauding policemen that shot and killed innocent people. That was justice would be seen to be done. Targeting one group while leaving out the other wouldn’t be in the interest of justice.
Matunda Nyanchama
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From: Matunda Nyanchama
Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 8:01 AM
Subject: No Amnesty for killers – Kibaki
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— On Mon, 6/2/08, nyabuto mangerere wrote:
wananchi,
I / We believe that no sound-minded leader can condone violent crimes whether in Kenya, Rwanda or elsewhere. Evil is evil and especially so when it is violently displayed as we saw in January. If they don’t get some form of discipline or get punished then they would start preparing for a repeat of same come 2012 elections which are not far away and unless their choice wins. It is something we have never seen in Kenyan history.
Nyabuto
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From: nyabuto mangerere
Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: No Amnesty for killers – Kibaki
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Nyabuto,
I do agree with you; no sound-minded leader can condone violent crimes whether in Kenya, Rwanda or elsewhere. Evil is evil and especially so when it is violently displayed as we saw in January. If they don’t get some form of discipline or get punished then they would start preparing for a repeat of same come 2012 elections which are not far away and unless their choice wins. It is something we have never seen in Kenyan history.
But, why must we engage in selective justice where we leave the real culprits, and we go after the petty culprits? What happens to the real thieves who put Kenya in that mess? Do we pretend that we do not know them?
If we must go that way, then, we must stop this nonsense of Peace, National Healing and Reconciliation.
We will then invite a free for all.
We shall have achieved nothing.
Odhiambo T Oketch
Komarock Nairobi
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Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:36:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: odhiambo okecth
Subject: Re: No Amnesty for killers – Kibaki
The rigging of December 27,2007 was the prime cause for the killings that followed.
The same people who are now demanding “no mercy to the killers” provided the tools and motivation for the killing spree that took the lives of over 1000 poor Kenyans. These killings were carried out to force Kenyans to accept the illegal power grab that immediately followed the rigging and they know it!
Those elites who participated in the rigging of elections must also be brought to trial for inciting the anger that rained on poor voters. They must not be allowed to roam freely in Kenya!!!!
In 2006, Tom Cholmondeley, a descendant of Kenya’s most famous white settler, Lord Delemere gunned down a warden in cold blood and was eventually let go by the same authorities that are now demanding no “amensty to killers”.
The killers of Robert Ouko, J.M. Karuki, Tom Mboya and Kungu Karumba are still roaming free in Kenya and those in power right now know who they are. Why haven’t they been arrested?
Kenya youths must unite to bring change so that these selective prosecutions of poor Kenyans is halted.
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