Monthly Archives: February 2009

Re: Kenya’s next election

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:30:54 +0000 [02:30:54 PM CST]
From: katex john
Subject: Re: Kenya’s next election

Amenya you didn’t read all the issues carefully. I talked of 40% of youth in Agriculture, 30 % in industries and 30 % in ICT. May be you should be asking about the non-youths.

I talked about sporting facilities in “my modern farms”. Well I will rethink sporting as a sector by itself. As agenda 11 or somewhere in between the rest.

Well I understand your concern about Agriculture again. My first consideration is to produce enough. As you can see there are good structures around the farms to ensure proper monitoring of the production. Tagging prices will then not be hard. Note that my farms are mainly “government owned” and not individual farmers struggling by themselves.

— On Mon, 16/2/09, amenya gibson wrote:

From: amenya gibson
Subject: Re: Kenya’s next election
Date: Monday, 16 February, 2009, 10:31 AM

Katex

Your agenda tackled well issue about old people we need to create a welfare for this people but no one ever consider this even current government-too much capitalism is dangerous

However

Let me fault a few issues here and there in good faith
Now I understand you are an engineer so I will forgive you by saying you will support 30% of youth to establish themselves those are numbers
Where will 70% go to ?

Also about Agriculture you have not given ME a new idea just old ones
Kindly tell me something that is practical on how we shall reduce food crisis
establish a balance between farmers and consumers-pricing issue

Your agenda did not say anything about Sports bila sports how will you use youth talents unless I did not read about that

Also about putting right professionals into right places you need to rethink it
You may be surprised to find a medical professional doing a great job at ministry of water/housing etc-debatable

On education I will hate to hear Free Education in your manifesto

Also Issue on environment,land policies,infrastructure etc

Make sure we are not going to wedge war against old leaders
we have to let them see the youth as a viable path to an alternative leadership
So we have to respect them are our fathers and mothers

Campaign Theme A FRESH Start for Kenyans by All kenyans

Bye
gibson

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:51 AM, henry ouma wrote:

Katex,

I have gleaned through your presidential agenda and find it excellent.

Let me hope that you are serious in this whole subject.

Do you hope to start a new political party as vehicle for the realization of this dream or You’d consider joining an already existing one ?

Kenya can be changed by youthful minds like ours—-Please think of a party and let the forum know.We could work together and build it in preparation for 2012-2017.

Best wishes.

Henry

— On Sun, 2/15/09, katex john wrote:

From: katex john
Subject: Kenya’s next election
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 11:03 PM

A few days ago I asked you guys for your vote to me as the fourth (first woman) president of the Democratic Republic of Kenya, for 2012 to 2017. A few of you corrected me on my approach and I heeded your critisism. Someone also asked for my agenda.

I have therefore stopped sitting cute and got down to work and here I deliver my agenda to you for CONSIDERATION. Thanks and more Critism welcome.

— On Fri, 13/2/09, monicah wrote:

From: monicah
Subject: RE: Kenya’s next election
Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 9:55 AM

Katex,
I admire your courage and confidence in knowing that you can make a leader and rehabilitate our ill fallen and dying nation; but on the contrary,
You should know that by now (Like yesterday) you are already disqualified from running for the presidential seat.
What Kenyans want is a person who barely has a tribal thought in, on, within or near him/her!!!!
Irregardless of how small your tribe is you should know that that is immaterial in this context!!!!
Wanabidii can prove me wrong that we are all one…………. Our tribe is Kenyan the rest is what you choose to become!
More to it……….. We don’t need cute women (don’t market yourself that way coz by now I know that u know beauty is in the eyes of the beholder) all what Kenyans are asking for is a functional, “cute” (if u insist) selfless brain that is focused on the development and welfare of the country and her people.
You’ve got this you have my support and many others who wish to have a lady for a president!

Monic

From: henry ouma
Sent: 13 February 2009 08:39
Subject: Re: Kenya ‘s next election

Katex,

Please hurry up.

Please give us a detailed agenda on how you’d transform Kenya upon your election as president .

Based on your agenda, we should start hitting the road.

— On Thu, 2/12/09, katex john wrote:

From: katex john
Subject: Kenya ‘s next election
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 1:34 PM
You guys can vote me for the fourth president of Kenya . I am a lady, from a small tribe and a youth (between 30 and 40).

I have all it takes so other than voting me on the basis of minority I will have all the required qualifications. I am a strategic management major, International business minor, ICT compliant (both engineering and IT) and above all I’m cute. Who wouldn’t want such a President for 2012 to 2017? Women on this forum, popularise me..

— On Thu, 12/2/09, David Kilonzi wrote:

From: David Kilonzi
Subject: Re: Americans Proved Me Wrong for Electing Barry Hussein Obama
Date: Thursday, 12 February, 2009, 11:50 AM
I am seconding Job,

Let the soo “minority” rise up and be counted. We can not just go to the streeet and pick up a physically challenged person or a woman and elect them to the presidency. They must, like Ngilu, stand up and be counted amongst the political elite

On 11/02/2009, Job Kazi wrote:

Amenya,
If youcan remove the drama from the logic, and I know it is hard because of the sensation of Obama’s election, then we can have a chat. Americans did not go out to elect Obama because he is black!!
Asking that we emulate Americans and elect a person because they are a minority is just as discriminatory as not electing them because of what makes them a minority.
Positive discrimination has no Integrity and is in itself a contradiction in terms.
Perhaps what we could try on is what I think the Americans did which was elect the person who mist inspired them, in spite (not because) of his name, race, parentage, profession, marital status, religion, preference in sports teams.
I truly believe that there are Obama’s amongst us and they are so because they are good and not because of the label we attach to describe them.
I would not mind voting in a person who is Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Muindi, Muslim, Jew, Mzungu, Jang’o, Njemp, Man, Woman,fat thin, even gay (yes I said that); if they display the qualities of an Obama.
Lets focus on the intrinsic qualities and allow someone to inspire, rather than think that the magic is in the packaging. We will, as sure as death and taxes, end up with more of the same if we continue to think that one’s skin colour, ethnicity, religion, age, gender, height, weight or other external attributes will bring the leadership we crave.
Sincerely,
J

2009/2/11 amenya gibson

In my life time as I head towards 30s

I had I never felt that a black person would ever become the president of America but I was proved wrong by Americans

Truly and forthrightly, if I was quizzed on this I would say it singly “It is NOT possible” for such a thing to happen in the USA
Maybe over my dead body heheheheheeeee

Beyond any shadows of doubts, America has proven that she is really the pace setter of democracy. In fact, America has the most advanced democracy..

With the election of Barry Hussy Obamash- into the oval office, Americans saw no colour, no race, no divide, no hatred, no handicap, no discrimination
He inspired Americans and the world especially with hope and change; he made us all to expunge fear, defeat, and weakness.
For many across Africa and the world at large.
Obama’s election demonstrates The America’s reputation as a country of interminable opportunities.

But for the world’s poorest continent, the rise of a man of African heritage to America ‘s highest office is a source of colossal pride and hope.
As Nelosn Mandela remarked
“Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place”.

My humblest Question to kenyans
Are we willing to emulate Americans
1-By Voting someone physically challenged to be our next President?
2-Are ready to chose a president or a leader who comes from Minorities
3-Are we ready and willing to elect a leader who is A Female we have had 3 Males so far

Over to you Kenyans

bye
Gibson Amenya.
Global Greens

Re: Mr. Kibe Mungai – The nearest stick, even if crooked, is what kills a snake

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:41:39 -0800 [01:41:39 PM CST]
From: otieno ombok
Subject: Re: Mr. Kibe Mungai – The nearest stick, even if crooked, is what kills a snake

Sorry, I didn’t know we were and we still are sooooo desparate. what happened to Kituo, KHRC, Hakijamiiii, LSK Advocates and Co/Associates?

I also didn’t know we are soooo politically inhygenic to the extent that we can chew cud. In economocs there is nothing for free, Kibe knows it must not be cash.

The quote from Omtata is great but I don’t know if the wolf is in the one lost ship or in the 99 left behind.

Really absurdity is absudity and cannot be otherwise.

Really, when I grow up I want to be a lawyer.

Ombok

— On Sun, 2/15/09, Mohamed Jiwa wrote:

From: Mohamed Jiwa
Subject: Re: Mr. Kibe Mungai – The nearest stick, even if crooked, is what kills a snake
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 11:53 AM

This post is protected by Copyright (c) 2009 by Mohamed Jiwa All Rights Reserved

I admire the effort of those who have taken this case to court but am dismayed by the blinkered views that continue to appear in the media.

Kenya is not an island. Our rulers are dispersed globally. It is in their interest that the election failed, else pressure could easily have been brought to bear to create a better outcome. Why is Annan acting to have impunity lifted among inciters of communal violence while he is not able to say a word about impunity in the judiciary or the executive? Surely there is much that has not been brought to the surface and the balls are only being dispatched to selected pockets.

I was once done in (sold out) by a lawyer who has now long become a magistrate or even a judge, now. My case never saw the light of day.

No lawyer can withstand the impunity of the judiciary only by force of rectitude where and when there are gaping lacunae and contradictions in the constitution that even a child can see through. Still, if they instruct their lawyer wisely, and ensure that he consistently remains faithful to the principle of being instructed, the anti PSC side can gain ground. But until we have a proper constitution the cat and mouse game can only go on, with the mouse slipping away confidently every time.

I hope the cat (the people united) wins the case and I support their initiative though I don’t believe that we have a foot to stand on as long as the government is composed of a bunch of booted, suited, caped, collared and clod-hopping materialists, dressed like colonials, brandishing weapons of mass obstruction (like the police, the army and the forces) at peaceful assemblies of ordinary citizens.

I dare say that there could be many officials in all three branches of government who watch this three-act play (the crime, the mockery and the adjournment) being repeated repeatedly and end up with only smirks on their faces, like mice, don’t you think?

Of this we can be sure: It’s a really sad state of affairs.

2009/2/15 Mark Ollunga Odhiambo
HI Ochieng’ : Read this.
Mark


G Mohamed Jiwa

— On Sat, 2/14/09, maina kiai wrote:

From: maina kiai
Subject: Re: Mr. Kibe Mungai – The nearest stick, even if crooked, is what kills a snake
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 4:50 AM

Thanks guys.. I was simply asking a question, hesitating to make a judgement call without knowing the circumstances that led to this decision.

And as someone bit older than you all, there was once a young man called Moses Wetangula, who as a student at the UofN was seen to be very pro-system and a mole for Moi within the student body which was then very radical. He went to the press to condemn student who had voted to protest (I am not sure about what) and in anger the student body turned on him, burning his possessions I think..

He graduated and opened a law firm, and Lo and behold he started taking cases for University students being charged by the state. He also represented former airforce members charged and developed a reputation as a reliable lawyer for the small man… Somehow later he became close to Moi again, was nominated by KANU, took up huge state briefs and etc..

and we know him well today… Moral of that story???????

— On Sat, 2/14/09, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti wrote:

From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti
Subject: Mr. Kibe Mungai – The nearest stick, even if
crooked, is what kills a snake
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 4:33 AM

Ndugu Kiai, Ombok et al,

This is to reinforce Nyongesa’s earlier reply to the fundamental issue you rightly raise of Mr. Kibe Mungai’s suitability to represent us in this matter:

1. When developing this case, we consulted many lawyers who were willing to take up the case but required payment (which is their entitlement) but we did not have the money. By the way, we have many public interest cases that are bogged down in court right now for lack of money and we could not afford to open another spending line without an idea where the money would come from.

2. Many of the lawyers we spoke to did not see the case the way we were seeing it. In fact, some told us that since the matter was already in the Constitution, there was no way of challenging the PSC. They told us that the only way was political – ask the MPs to amend it, or wait for the never coming New Constitution.

3. When we spoke to Mr. Kibe Mungai, he took the matter very seriously, and within two days he was “seeing” the case we wanted to file. He even told us that the constitution ammendment that birthed the Parliamentary Service Commission could be challenged by challenging the constitutionality of the 1999 Oloo Aringo Bill that ammended Section 45 of the Constitution to remove the Office of the Clerk (which was in the Public Service) and replaced it with the Parliamentary Service and the Parliamentary Service Commission.

4. When we told Mr. Kibe Mungai that we did not have any money for the case, he reminded us that he was a citizen like us and given the public interest nature of the case he would offer his services for free.

5. When we went public with the intention to sue, many people within Civil Society expressed concerns about Kibe’s suitability for the case and we offered to listen to them. We challenged them to get us lawyers who could handle the case, aas we asked Kibe to await further instructions. Mr. Haroun Ndubi was tasked to convene the lawyers and CMD offered to host them. The meeting of lawyers at the CMD boardroom to take up the matter flopped. Only Ndubi and one other (young) lawyer turned up. After a week of “inaction” we decided to move on, with instructions to Kibe to file the case as we wait for more lawyers to be enjoined in the matter. He commenced work immediately and we filed the case within a week, that was on Wednesday, December 10, 2008.

6. Finally, for those who think that it was wrong for us to retain Mr. Kibe Mungai because of his past association with the establishment, should realise that we should encourage people to do good. There is no pain when a ‘bad man’ does good. But it is agonising when a ‘good man’ does bad.

7. I request you all to read the Parables of the Lost Sheep and Coin (Luke 15:1-10): Now the tax collectors and “sinners” were all gathering around to hear him. But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law muttered, “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”

Then Jesus told them this parable: “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Does he not leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it? And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home. Then he calls his friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost sheep.’ I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.

“Or suppose a woman has ten silver coins and loses one. Does she not light a lamp, sweep the house and search carefully until she finds it? And when she finds it, she calls her friends and neighbors together and says, ‘Rejoice with me; I have found my lost coin.’ In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

Peace!

Omtatah
0722-684-777

From: George Nyongesa
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 12:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: Kenyans in court seeking
scrap of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC)

Kiai:

Why Kibe? Good question you ask!

Before settling for Kibe we talked to most of the “good” lawyers who often work with the civil society. However, it was difficult to work with them for two main reasons. First, it was apparently difficult for a meeting of minds since they could not grasp the matter in the way that myself and Omtata had envisaged it in our layman thinking. Second, they wanted their legal fees discussed upfront, yet we did not have a single penny. Even to today we still struggle to pay for running costs out of our own pockets.

When we talked to Kibe, he quickly caught onto our lay thinking and translated into a legal argument without losing its essence. Also, for no pay at all, Kibe was willing to piece together the notes that we had compiled from our attempt at investigative reading into the necessary legal documents and argument.

On a light note: placing Kibe’s past politico-legal escapades in focus, we embrace him in the traditional spirit of celebrating “the bad becoming good”. Perhaps much the same reason we are grieved with “the good turning bad”.

George Nyongesa

— On Sat, 2/14/09, maina kiai wrote:

From: maina kiai
Subject: Re: Kenyans in court seeking
scrap of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC)
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 7:46 AM

George:

Even as we express surprise at the lawyers for PSC, we must be alive as well to the various conflicting legal and political roles that Kibe has played as well… In fact how come he is the lawyer chosen for this matter?

Maina

— On Thu, 2/12/09, George Nyongesa wrote:

From: George Nyongesa
Subject: Kenyans in court seeking
scrap of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC)
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:16 AM

12th February, 2009

Press release

Kenyans in court seeking scrap of the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC)

Today (Thursday, 12th February, 2009) at 9.00 am, Justice Nyamu of Nairobi’s High Court, once again sat to listen to the landmark citizen instituted case against the Parliamentary Service Commission (PSC) in which 17 representative Kenyans are seeking orders that the PSC be declared unconstitutional along with the law that created it and further that the High Court order the recovery of all the money estimated at KES 7 billion and other resources the PSC has squandered on Parliamentarians since 2003.

The PSC was has procured senior lawyers Mr. Pheroze Nowrojee and Hon. Paul Muite, the Attorney General represented by State Counsel Mr. Omondi and the 40 million Kenyans are represented by lawyer mr. Kibe Mungai.

As a brief background:

1. On Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 17 Kenyans filed High Court Petition No. 769 of 2008, at the Nairobi Law Courts, requesting that the PSC be scrapped for violating the Constitution of the Republic of Kenya, and for flouting the republican ethics that prohibit public officials from using their offices for unjust enrichment and other forms of personal gain.

2. On Wednesday, 21st January, 2009, when the case came before Justice Nyamu, it could not proceed because the PSC alleged they had not been properly served, since the court papers were delivered to their Legal Department office instead of their Clerk.

3. On Friday, 30th January, 2009, although the Attorney General (through whose office all bills are transformed into law and therefore had much to do with the passing of the contentious law) was ready to proceed, the PSC requested for leave of the court to instruct lawyers to appear in court on their behalf. The case was therefore postponed to today, Thursday 12th February, 2009 to allow them to get legal representation.

Update: At the PSC’s advocates’ (Mr. Phiroze Nowrejee and Hon. Paul Muite) request, Justice Nyamu granted orders allowing the PSC 21 days within which to respond to the chamber summons in this matter filed by Kenyans at the High Court. Lawyer Kibe further requested and was granted 7 days leave after receipt of the PSC’s response to the chamber summons, within which to reply. Consequently, the next mention of the case is scheduled for Thursday, 12th March, 2009.

In addition, although submissions on the chamber summons will be heard by Justice Nyamu, by application of all parties, the petition will be heard by a three member panel of High Court judges.

Way forward and support required:

1. Unfortunately, since our last communication, a parliamentary tribunal has been set up and gazette to look into the matter of MPs remuneration and taxation. We disagree with the move to have parliamentarians review their own remuneration as they are obviously biased and it is a clear conflict of interest right from the beginning for whomever is proposed to occupy such a tribunal. In this regard, we shall be amending the court documents to seek court orders that in public interest, the tribunal be disbanded.

2. That the PSC ( read the State) has retained such high profile advocates, Mr. Phirozee Nowrejee and Hon. Paul Muite to represent them fortifies our resolve since it is clear that they and the AG, who is willing and ready to proceed, acknowledge there is indeed a strong and valid case to answer. On a sad note, we are however surprised that the people that have previously fought by our side can now be “hired guns” to offer “legal expat” not legal expert to the very criminal system against which we fight. In any event, we appreciate that the profile of this case has been increased. On that note we appeal to all patriotic Kenyans who are lawyers and advocates to join Mr. Kibe and lend support as we face the giants ( Phirozee Nowrejee and Paul Muite) in the ring.

3. Fellow Kenyans can support us by adding your signatures to the growing list of “army against impunity” as we aim to collect 5 million signatures on our petition. Your signature counts since it will help us build a strong and stable base of Kenyans through which to make your voice heard and to push for Kenyans’ best interests’ agenda against culture of corruption and political impunity. The petition is available at www.kejude.org

4. We propose to set up a Solidarity Fund in order to raise the resources we require in sustaining this petition. Feel free to contact us ( see www.kejude.org) to obtain more information and to contribute to this fund. It is important we have financial muscle in this struggle against the State. Your support through your generous donations will be most appreciated.

5. We need the numbers to join us in court for solidarity- you are all welcome to join us at court on Thursday 12th March, 2009 – High Court Chambers 35, Nairobi – so that this is not a case of just a few individuals but all Kenyans. We are all being robbed and we must therefore all stand and resist.

This is a detailed follow up to my colleague in the subject matter Okiya Omtatah’s earlier posting!
On behalf of other petitioners,
George Nyongesa
Bunge la Mwananchi
mwananchibunge@gmail.com
www.bungelamwanchi.org
+254 720 451 235

Re: Stop blaming others please!

During your pilgrim on earth, I am sure that you have come across someone in the following situation:

-Someone who lost his or her job
-Someone who graduated from school/college/university but has not been able to find a job
-Someone whose home went for closure
-A student who failed a class/a course
-Someone who has tried several times to be admitted into a program but all in vain
-Someone whose car was repossessed
-Someone who has failed to find a life partner
-Someone who either decided or was forced to divorce
-Someone who is always in financial challenges due to his/her lifestyle
-Someone whose driving license was suspended due to drinking and driving
-Someone who is living a lonely life because all forsook him or her because of his or her bad attitude and behavior

There is no question that anyone who finds himself/herself on the above situations needs prayers and encouragement from family, church members, community, or friends. What I find disturbing is when someone lives in a state of denial and starts blaming everybody else including God.
A case in point is about an incident that took place at work today!

After scanning her merchandise, a woman who heretofore had appeared to be a good person, started yelling at me saying that I had overcharged her.”There is no way this little things would be $ 50.00!” she alleged as I stood there condemned! “I don’t trust you at all!” she added! All I did was to print her a receipt of what I had scanned! With a very angry face, she read the receipt as someone studying for the final test! Meanwhile,
I stood there waiting patiently with couple customers waiting as well.

On finding out that everything was OK and that I had not over charged her, she paid and left grumbling!

It’s only fair that people learn to take care of their own problems/frustrations instead dragging others into their challenges. Don’t you think so?

Just a thought.

Pr Birai

– – –
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:02:51 -0800 [08:02:51 PM CST]
From: Absalom Birai
Subject: Re: Stop blaming others please!

Re: U.S. Military Will Offer Path to Citizenship

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:02:05 -0800 [07:02:05 AM CST]
From: Martin owino
Subject: Re: U.S. Military Will Offer Path to Citizenship

Hi Natives,

Take the chance

Blessings

Martin Owino, MPH, President
African Health Foundation
P.O. Box 1774
Framingham MA 01702

” A Hands Up, Not a Handout Organization”

U.S. Military Will Offer Path to Citizenship

Stretched thin in Afghanistan and Iraq, the American military will begin recruiting skilled immigrants who are living in this country with temporary visas, offering them the chance to become United States citizens in as little as six months.

Immigrants who are permanent residents, with documents commonly known as green cards, have long been eligible to enlist. But the new effort, for the first time since the Vietnam War, will open the armed forces to temporary immigrants if they have lived in the United States for a minimum of two years, according to military officials familiar with the plan.

Recruiters expect that the temporary immigrants will have more education, foreign language skills and professional expertise than many Americans who enlist, helping the military to fill shortages in medical care, language interpretation and field intelligence analysis.

“The American Army finds itself in a lot of different countries where cultural awareness is critical,” said Lt. Gen. Benjamin C. Freakley, the top recruitment officer for the Army, which is leading the pilot program. “There will be some very talented folks in this group.”

The program will begin small — limited to 1,000 enlistees nationwide in its first year, most for the Army and some for other branches. If the pilot program succeeds as Pentagon officials anticipate, it will expand for all branches of the military. For the Army, it could eventually provide as many as 14,000 volunteers a year, or about one in six recruits.

About 8,000 permanent immigrants with green cards join the armed forces annually, the Pentagon reports, and about 29,000 foreign-born people currently serving are not American citizens.

Although the Pentagon has had wartime authority to recruit immigrants since shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, military officials have moved cautiously to lay the legal groundwork for the temporary immigrant program to avoid controversy within the ranks and among veterans over the prospect of large numbers of immigrants in the armed forces.

A preliminary Pentagon announcement of the program last year drew a stream of angry comments from officers and veterans on Military.com, a Web site they frequent.

Marty Justis, executive director of the national headquarters of the American Legion, the veterans’ organization, said that while the group opposes “any great influx of immigrants” to the United States, it would not object to recruiting temporary immigrants as long as they passed tough background checks. But he said the immigrants’ allegiance to the United States “must take precedence over and above any ties they may have with their native country.”

The military does not allow illegal immigrants to enlist, and that policy would not change, officers said. Recruiting officials pointed out that volunteers with temporary visas would have already passed a security screening and would have shown that they had no criminal record.

“The Army will gain in its strength in human capital,” General Freakley said, “and the immigrants will gain their citizenship and get on a ramp to the American dream.”

In recent years, as American forces faced combat in two wars and recruiters struggled to meet their goals for the all-volunteer military, thousands of legal immigrants with temporary visas who tried to enlist were turned away because they lacked permanent green cards, recruiting officers said.

Recruiters’ work became easier in the last few months as unemployment soared and more Americans sought to join the military. But the Pentagon, facing a new deployment of 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, still has difficulties in attracting doctors, specialized nurses and language experts.

Several types of temporary work visas require college or advanced degrees or professional expertise, and immigrants who are working as doctors and nurses in the United States have already been certified by American medical boards.

Military figures show that only 82 percent of about 80,000 Army recruits last year had high school diplomas. According to new figures, the Army provided waivers to 18 percent of active-duty recruits in the final four months of last year, allowing them to enlist despite medical conditions or criminal records.

Military officials want to attract immigrants who have native knowledge of languages and cultures that the Pentagon considers strategically vital. The program will also be open to students and refugees.

The Army’s one-year pilot program will begin in New York City to recruit about 550 temporary immigrants who speak one or more of 35 languages, including Arabic, Chinese, Hindi, Igbo (a tongue spoken in Nigeria), Kurdish, Nepalese, Pashto, Russian and Tamil. Spanish speakers are not eligible. The Army’s program will also include about 300 medical professionals to be recruited nationwide. Recruiting will start after Department of Homeland Security officials update an immigration rule in coming days.

Pentagon officials expect that the lure of accelerated citizenship will be powerful. Under a statute invoked in 2002 by the Bush administration, immigrants who serve in the military can apply to become citizens on the first day of active service, and they can take the oath in as little as six months.

For foreigners who come to work or study in the United States on temporary visas, the path to citizenship is uncertain and at best agonizingly long, often lasting more than a decade. The military also waives naturalization fees, which are at least $675.

To enlist, temporary immigrants will have to prove that they have lived in the United States for two years and have not been out of the country for longer than 90 days during that time. They will have to pass an English test.

Language experts will have to serve four years of active duty, and health care professionals will serve three years of active duty or six years in the Reserves. If the immigrants do not complete their service honorably, they could lose their citizenship.

Commenters who vented their suspicions of the program on Military.com said it could be used by terrorists to penetrate the armed forces.

At a street corner recruiting station in Bay Ridge in Brooklyn, Staff Sgt. Alejandro Campos of the Army said he had already fielded calls from temporary immigrants who heard rumors about the program.

“We’re going to give people the opportunity to be part of the United States who are dying to be part of this country and they weren’t able to before now,” said Sergeant Campos, who was born in the Dominican Republic and became a United States citizen after he joined the Army.

Sergeant Campos said he saw how useful it was to have soldiers who were native Arabic speakers during two tours in Iraq.

“The first time around we didn’t have soldier translators,” he said. “But now that we have soldiers as translators, we are able to trust more, we are able to accomplish the mission with more accuracy.”

Re: Raila security-creating condition for assasination???

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:27:18 +0300 [02/16/2009 05:27:18 AM CST]
From: geoffrey gitagia
Subject: Re: Raila security-creating condition for assasination???

True the absence of war does not equate to peace, and trying to twist things does not give you a solution, and if for real Raila is being targeted by terrorist am sure our local intelligence is capable of giving him security as much as i would like to see our local leaders under fire this is not i would have in mind,

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Robert Alai wrote:

James

Religion cannot be brought into a non religious argument. When you bring it into such a discussion it becomes a form of escapism.

Amsence of war doesnt mean peace. There is no peace in Kenya.

Robert

2009/2/16 James Kueth

Dear Kenyans,

You rather look in to God and appreciate Him for giving you peaceful Country that has not been in war since the genesis-however as you are gradually inviting the disaster into your selves, that is why there was last year but one bloodshed in Kenya. Remember when you open the door for mercy in to your house thy house shall be fill with grace joy, happiness. Then when you open the door of aguish your house shall be full of fear, tears, and sorrows.

Sincerely remember the Gomorra and Sodom was set into fire because of wrong doers, don’t thinks you are more clever or more better then those who died during the post election in 2007, just only by God’s grace you survive, those who thinks they are clever to cheat and kill your imminent politicians they shall also be in dim light.

Read John 3: 27 and remember what goes around comes around

Regards

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— On Sat, 2/14/09, otieno sungu wrote:

From: otieno sungu
Subject: Raila security-creating condition for assasination???
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 2:53 AM

Why are we having a lot of issues regarding Raila’s security and not Kibaki’s or Kalonzo’s?

Is an environment being brewed for an assassination? How can the policemen guarding a VIP be subjected to confusion and disjointed command and be expected to give utmost security?

Something smells bad here!! And the whole idea of a terrorist attack targetting Raila while the same government guarding him is playing around with his security??

Sungu.
Juba.

SUMMIT CHAIR CONVENES HISTORIC MEETING TO USHER “NEW LOOK” EAC

by leo odera omollo

A Strategy Retreat for Key Organs and Institutions of the East African Community was held in Kigali , Rwanda at the Serena Hotel on 9-10 February 2009. The Retreat, the first of its kind brought together the top leadership, Ministers, Permanent Secretaries, Heads and Senior Officials of Government, EAC Organs and Institutions; and representatives of the business community and civil society. The Retreat was convened by H.E. President Paul Kagame of Rwanda and Chairman of the Summit of Heads of State of the East African Community who officially opened the Retreat on 9 February.

The Retreat was held against the background of deepening EAC integration with the ongoing operation of the Customs Union, which was established in 2005, and the advanced progress towards the establishment of the Common Market, which is expected to be in place by January 2010. The EAC recognizes the need to constantly keep a step ahead in maintaining harmonious working relations among its organs and institutions to meet the new challenges and expectations of regional integration within the fast evolving world economic and social order.

Over 100 participants attended the Retreat, including Ministers, Members of the EAC Council of Ministers, the Speaker and Members of the East African Legislative Assembly, Judge President, Principal Judge, Registrar and Senior Officers of the East African Court of Justice; the Secretary General and Deputies Secretary General of the East African Community, Heads of the EAC Institutions ( Inter-University Council for East Africa, Lake Victoria Basin Commission, East African Development Bank, Lake Victoria Fisheries Organization and the Civil Aviation Safety and Security Oversight Agency) , Senior Government and EAC officials; representatives of the business community and civil society; and the Deputy Secretary General of the Commonwealth.

The Strategy Retreat with the theme “Collaborative Work Culture in the EAC organs and institutions for a Stronger East Africa”, focused on a review of the current operations of the EAC organs and institutions, sharing of views and insights on their effectiveness against their mandates under the EAC Treaty, which was signed in 1999; and drawing of lessons from other regional efforts in terms of collaborative work ethic among the EAC organs and institutions and between them and the Partner States.

President Kagame calls for unified, shared sense of purpose and commitment

In his Keynote Address to the Retreat, H.E. President Kagame said the vision of regional integration was a voluntary and dedicated political partnership based on pragmatic building blocks and time-bound milestones and targets. He said the organs and institutions of the Community should strive to improve their collaboration and strengthen their sense of shared purpose to perform better, individually and collectively, in order to realize the benefits of regional integration. He said that among the benefits of regional integration were larger markets, economies of scale, larger pools of human, financial, and physical capital. East Africa , he said, had the advantages of a rich legacy of socioeconomic, political and cultural interactions. He said these advantages should be consolidated by strong, first rate formal institutions embracing a learning attitude, continuously internalizing new knowledge, innovation and good practices to drive the East African integration process.

President Kagame said the EAC should build on the demonstrated strengths and successes of its established organs and institutions, seeking joint solutions to persistent challenges, and working closely with their multiple stakeholders and constituencies among the business community and civil society towards enhanced integration, removal of barriers to trade, increased investments promotion, movement of people, goods and labour, and bolstering employment opportunities.

He said the EAC organs and institutions , their leaders and staff – especially the Secretariat, the East African Legislative Assembly, and the East African Court of Justice – should adopt and operate with a broader regional viewpoint and ambition, projecting a truly East African character as opposed to being extensions of individual Partner States’ bureaucracies and vested interests. He said it was fundamental for the EAC to adopt a culture of self-assessment and stocktaking as the basis for investment in human capital, processes and systems for building assets, talents, and competencies required to drive the integration agenda effectively. He stressed the role of the private sector in the integration process stating that the EAC organs and institutions should adopt business friendly attitudes and practices – each providing its respective competency to promote wealth-creation and realization of a viable integration process based on a dynamic and well-functioning economic market.

Secretary General pitches for competitive regional economy

The Secretary General of the East African Community, Ambassador Juma Mwapachu said the Retreat offered a rare and unique opportunity to begin a crucial conversation on how best to forge coalitions of purpose that would galvanize efforts in promoting deeper EAC integration. He said the Retreat was being held at a time when the global financial and economic climate was at best gloomy and worrisome, challenging the regional integration framework to become, more than ever before, the bulwark in promoting greater competitiveness and shoring the economies of the region against the deleterious effects of a globalization that had turned awry. EAC needed to respond to these challenges of making the EAC national economies as well as the regional economy more vibrant and robust. He said the Retreat was driven by the notion that the transformation of EAC’s organizational work culture as well as the development of better clarified roles and relationships of and between EAC organs and institutions could leverage EAC’s performance leading to the realization of higher gains in the integration agenda.

Delegates offer candid reflection on EAC performance and need to step up collaborative commitment

Hon. Amason Kingi, Minister for East African Community, Kenya said it was a time to be open and candid in recognizing and accepting the challenges facing the Community and resolving to do something about it. He said it was becoming increasingly apparent that the EAC engine was not moving smoothly as it should, hence the convening of the Retreat to see where things were not going right and determining to remedy the situation. He said the founding fathers had intended the EAC organs and institutions to work together with the single and undivided purpose to midwife the integration process. He said EAC needed to come up with a culture of collaboration and team spirit to realize its goals for the benefit of the people of East Africa . The organs and institutions of the Community should project the face of the Community. They should see things as East Africans and not turn themselves into advocates or defenders of national interests at the expence of the greater regional interest. He said that from the top political and executive leadership of the EAC organs and institutions to the professional cadres and bureaucrats engaged in the EAC project, there was no option but to champion the EAC cause and realization of the Vision of the EAC Treaty through the stages of the Customs Union, already established, a Common Market, currently being negotiated, subsequently a Monetary Union and ultimately Political Federation.

Hon Mohammed Aboud, Deputy Minister for East African Co-operation, Tanzania observed that the financial crisis currently engulfing the developed countries would soon be felt in the East African region. With the decline of EAC’s traditional markets and the attendant reduced demand, retrenchment of direct foreign investments and tourist activity from the traditional sources, the pinch was slowly biting. This would further compound the global food and fuel crisis and galloping inflation recently experienced. The creeping world economic crisis would affect the implementation of critical regional projects such as infrastructure. He said the region faced a serious crisis and it was important to change the ways of doing things and take the necessary steps to mitigate the effects of the looming crisis.

The Vice Chairman of the East African Business Council Mr. Keli Kiilu said there was urgent need to involve the EABC deeper in the integration process as an organ or institution of the Community beyond the “Observer” status it has occupied since 1996 in the EAC. He said that the lesson from the current global financial crisis was to place the private sector at the forefront of the regional integration process. He said with the ongoing consolidation of the EAC Customs Union and the advanced process towards the establishment of the Common Market, the role of the private sector should become more pronounced and deeper entrenched. There should be more communications flow between the EAC and EABC and harmonization of their operations, work culture, ethics and vision of the EAC. He said EAC bureaucrats and senior officials of the Partner States assigned to the EAC project should be working in the Community, not to advance national interests but to promote the integration process. They should not be seen to be blocking the integration process but promoting integration. He said quite often decisions reached at the regional level were not communicated down to the operational levels and departments of the Partner States thus impinging on the progress of integration, in particular, he mentioned decisions concerning relaxation of border controls. Mr. Kiilu lamented the over-reliance on external investors at the expense of promotion of East African productivity, manufacturing and export. EAC, he said, should do more to promote local manufacture and investments to create export capacity as well as promote intra-regional trade by facilitating free movement of factors of production and , on the whole, reduce the costs of doing business in the region .

Conclusions and recommendations: towards a “new era” for EAC

At the conclusion of the Retreat, the delegates made far reaching observations and recommendations under what they dubbed the “Kigali Spirit” that would guide the operations of the EAC organs and institutions to a more rapidly achieving regional organization in the new era.

In their recommendations, the delegates emphasized the need for a re-affirmation of commitment to the spirit of regional integration requiring deliberate efforts by the EAC Partner States , organs and institutions as well as civil society and business community to prioritize the regional integration agenda within their respective national agendas.

The delegates called for a professional and ethical re-orientation of the EAC establishment to build an East African spirit among the staff of the East African Community. The delegates proposed the establishment of an EAC Public Service Commission, EAC Parliamentary Service Commission and EAC Judicial Service Commission. They proposed the introduction of standard terms of service for staff of all the organs and institutions of the Community and institution of a system of motivation and rigorous performance evaluation of staff on the basis of undivided loyalty to the Community and contribution to the realization of its vision and mission.

The delegates called for streamlining and strengthening of internal and external communications of the EAC to involve systematic, continuous consultations among the Heads of the organs and institutions of the Community and structured regular meetings to plan, review, monitor, and coordinate their programmes and exchange views on the implementation of the regional projects and programmes. They proposed the establishment of a strengthened central public information and communications office at the EAC Secretariat that would coordinate dynamic public information flow from the organs and institutions of the Community, utilizing advanced communication media, including print and electronic media and the Internet.

The delegates proposed measures to ensure effective implementation of EAC decisions and to this extent the need to set up regional mechanism for monitoring and evaluation of the implementation of EAC Council of Ministers decisions at the regional and national levels; monitoring and evaluation of implementation of EAC Acts passed by EALA at the national levels; and establishment of clear political leadership and responsibility for regional projects and programmes by clarifying the role of the Council of Ministers , including assigning specific portfolios to the Members of the EAC Council of Ministers.

On Budget issues, the delegates proposed urgent review from the current system whereby of equal contribution by Partner States and over-reliance on external funding of regional projects to a more sustainable and self reliant sourcing of funds for regional projects and programmes.

The delegates resolved to sustain the “Spirit of Kigali” and, to this extent, proposed that the EAC Strategy Retreat be institutionalized into an annual event and include holding of quarterly meetings of the Heads of EAC organs and institutions, biannual meetings of the Heads of the organs and institutions of the Community with the Chairperson of the Summit; and establishment of a Task Force to follow up the implementation of the recommendations of the Kigali Retreat. The full report and recommendations of the Kigali Retreat will be submitted to the Council of Ministers and Summit of Heads of State for consideration and decisions.

ends

leooderaomolo@yahoo.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:15:23 -0800 [02/16/2009 05:15:23 AM CST]
From: Leo Odera Omolo
Subject: SUMMIT CHAIR CONVENES HISTORIC MEETING TO USHER “NEW LOOK” EAC

PRIME MINISTER RAILA ODINGA HAD A MIXED RECEPTION IN HIS NATIVE HOME TURF OF NYAN ZA TOUR AMID HECKLING AND BOOING.

By Leo Odera Omolo

The weekend round up tour of his native Luo-Nyanza by the Prime Minister Raila Amolo Odinga was greeted with a mixed reception, coupled with hecklings and boeeing of Luo MPs accompanying him.

Odinga made a round up trip which took him to Kisumu, Homa-Bay, Mbita and wound up at Siaya town. He officially officiate in the opening of the branches of the fast growing Equity Bank.

In all the places he visited the PM was accompanied by local MPs Martin Ogindo{Rangwe}, Eng. James Rege{Karachuonyo}, the Finance Assistant Minister Dr, Oburu Oginga, Edwin Ochieng’ Yinda and others.

In Homa-Bay the Prime Minister run into a hostile crowd of onlookers who heckled and boeed the area MP Ogindo and stopped him from addressing them, though the situation was calmed after the intervention of the immediate former MP for the area Eng. Phillip Okoth Okundi.

Eng Rege who represented the neighbouring Karachuonyo also run into trouble when he told the crowd that the long awaited tracking of the Kendu-Bay-Homa-Bay road would begin soon.

Heckling and booing characterized the tour, and what emerged thereafter are the fact tht there is a tug-or-war between the sitting MPs from Luo-Nyanza and the immediate former MP who they beat during the 2007 general elections.

The defeated former MPs appeared not to have accepted their conquers and have vehemently refused to keep low political profile. The are still working hard to ensure that they undermined the incumbent.

In Homa-Bay Eng. Okundi who lost his Rangwe seat to Martin Ogindo is alleged to be actively working in cohoot with the local small time bush politician to ensure that the incumbent Ogindo had no chance of effecting development activities in the constituency.

Okundi who is the current director of elections of the ODM was last year faulted for having recklessly ordered for the repeated polls in certain constituencies in Luo-Nyanza where it was perceived that those who won the branches elections were agents of anti-Raila forced. But the results of the repeated polls only confirmed the same forcing the party/s big-wigs to introduce what is popularly known as power-sharing . In this system delegates from the rebellious branches were forced to share the powers with those perceived to be politically correct lots on 50-5- during the ODM’sNational Delegates Conference held at the Boma of Kenya..

Rangwe was one of the dozens of constituencies where the party headquarters ordered for the repeated polls on more than one occasions, but the resultant effect was that pro-Ogindo still carried the day handing the pro-Okundi a devastating defeat And the signs that the major split and division within the party still exist came to the surface last Saturday’s intensive heckling and booing of the area MP..

In the neighbouring Karachuonyo, the defeated former MP Dr. Paul Adhu Awiti, a close confidant of the Prime Minister is still calling the shots, while sitting in the Office of the PM has his PA in-charge of political matters .He has the PM’s ears and hence the persistent hostility shown to towards the sitting MP Eng. Rege by the PM whenever they meet in a public place..

Residents of the greater South Nyanza region blames the defeated MPs of allegedly peddling venomous information to the ODM headquarters, which tended to undermine the work of the incumbents. And as these kind of political machinations goes on, the electorate are the sufferer,

In the neighbouring Rongo constituency, party officials allied to the area MP Dalmas Otieno were shocked when they were unnecessarily subjected to uncalled for repeated polls, which were simply translated as meaning that the elements allied to the former area MP. George Ochillo Ayacko were favored to win the branches elections at all costs, though the electorate had different idea. The attempt to force them on the electorate failed mysteriously.

Similar secret schemes were applied in places like Nyakach, Uriri, Kasipul-Kabondo and other places making the ODM looked like a troubled house full of undercurrent and undercuttings.

The weekend heckling was a clear indication that the work of power-brokers had failed, and the residents want to be freed to vote for anyone of their own choice, but not the imposed sycophants of the PM. In some places there are parallel running branches. It is time the PM instill discipline into to his party hierarchy.

In some isolated places, the Prime Minister was also greeted with shouts about Mahing{the maize] and unga maize {maizemeals}

The crowd that turned to witness the Equity Bank branch at Homa-Bay turned rowdy. The same was witnessed at the Nundu Stadium, Mbita point and later at Siaya town, where the arera MP Edwin Ochieng’ Yinda was greeted with the booing and heckling. It is hoped that the PM had taken a serious notes over the incidences involving the heckling of the MPs and would soon prevail upon the former MPs to desist from activities that could be detrimental to the popularity of the ODM of the next general elections.

The former MPs must be told in uncertain terms that their terms are over, snd they should give chances to the incumbent to developed their constituencies where they had failed instead of undercutting the activities of the green horns MPs. And wait for the 2012 to come.

ENDS

leooderaomolo@yahoo.com

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:05:27 -0800 [02/16/2009 05:05:27 AM CST]
From: Leo Odera Omolo
Subject: PRIME MINISTER RAILA ODINGA HAD A MIXED RECEPTION IN HIS NATIVE HOME TURF OF NYAN ZA TOUR AMID HECKLING AND BOOING.

Saitoti do not fool us man……go fool your backyard….

Folks,

We all know who is planning to harm Raila, like they did to Tom Mboya and Ouko and Agwengs Kodhek and all others. The memories are still fresh….. You must all (Kibaki and Saitoti with cohort the Mt. Kenya Mafia) know we all know your stupid moves of killing Luos like chicken. Try and kill your own this time round and stop fooling Kenyans. Luo women did not kunya children, they delivered them like all women of the world did. Non came out easy they all passed through a process of pain. Luo women gave birth to human beings not animals or chickens, just like all other women and no women is from a tribe are specialized in producing sons and daughter and so dooonnnnt eveeer trrry agaiiiin……. I warn you!!!!!

We know why the Ukranian ship docked with all the fiasco and drama filled with the crude weapons you imported for your dirty job of killing innocent Kenyans using your Ministerial posting.

Pls. Note the Quote……..”I trust the ICC Hague will now speed up and move fast the genocide cases under humanity factor so to save many more lives from perishing. Kenyans are scampering for survival any further delay would cause catastrophic effect to many……(see attachments). We also believe the International World Leaders along with the United Nations will step in immediately to safeguard security situation in Kenya which means witnesses along with other surviving victims will be given maximum security against these suspected marouding Politicians”.

Peaceful Kenyans must stand up in arms against Kibaki and Saitoti, they are deadly monsters unfit to live amongst Kenyans. Mama Lucy knows something about filthy Saitoti no wonder she gave him open public lashing. Tell Saitoti on his face people!!!…….. dont fear him….. go to the mountain tops and shout………

People!!! hang your executive diplomaic charisma on the doors, be primitive and deal with the likes of Saitoti thoroughly…….make noise for them to be hurried to Hague….The police force does not have only one tribe in the team……..these few dirty heads are trying to create and stage manage civil war in Kenya so they can have opportunity to use their crude weapon to distabilize Nyanza people…..We know your intentions….you want to destroy witnesses and erase evidence by killing these people through faked influenced Civil Conflict because you already know your ass is headed to Hague and I will not keep quite this time……..why are your officers miandering with security details of Raila? Can you explain? We know Kibaki and cohort are all aware………Dont joke with peoples lives…..

I dare you, and just know your ass is on fire headed to Hague…..Give us a break……

We want mature sportsmanship type of political campaigns with principled democratic rule of law…. not that of intimidation, marginalization, centralization, threats and fear. We want leadership which provides opportunity to each and every Kenyan and that they be given a chance without discrimination to reach their full potentials in progress through fairness to all. Since this is the Will of God for Creation.

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson

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High alert over threat to Raila

Updated 46 min(s) ago
By The Standard on Saturday Reporter
Police are on high alert as the force investigates claims that Prime Minister Raila Odinga could be targeted in a terrorist attack.
An alert which in the Force’s language is called ‘Situation Report’ dispatched last week to all the heads of police divisions in Nairobi, briefs the recipients on, “alleged plans to sabotage a helicopter the Prime Minister would be using to facilitate a crash’’.
A copy shown The Standard on Saturday, and signed by the Nairobi police boss Mr Njue Njagi, though silent on how the threat was reported, describes the motive: “This is out of the annoyance that Kenya continues to cooperate with the US in the campaign against terror.’’
Njagi concedes in the alert ‘precautionary measures are necessary’, and ordered all division commanders, “to ensure that security is on high alert and investigate the report seriously.”
The PM spokesman Dennis Onyango said Raila is aware of the reported threat and is taking the matter seriously. He said the PM had also received a threatening SMS on his cell phone.
“The PM has seen the police situation report and he was concerned about it this morning when he took off to Kitale and shared it with some of his colleagues telling them they needed to know there could be danger in the air even as they accompanied him,” said Onyango.
Onyango added that the PM plans to record a statement with police regarding the SMS he received. Though public figures often get similar messages from pranksters, it was not clear if this was one such.
When contacted Njagi refused to comment on the issue. Police spokesman Eric Kiraithe too declined to comment on the matter saying he could not discuss the PM’s security in the media.
Such terror threats, if any, are usually collected from informers who feed the intelligence reports to the police and the National Security Intelligence Service (NSIS) on a daily basis.
Depending on the nature and credibility of information given out, senior security officers receive and share it with their juniors for action. It is the Criminal Intelligence Unit wing of CID that is said to have received the alleged threats against Raila.
Air bound
Our enquiries found out the PM has been advised to use the military helicopters in his operations whenever he wishes. This is because the chopper he usually uses is “predictable” and “distinct” and could be easily targeted, a well-placed source revealed on Friday.
“We were also concerned that he uses one chopper that is usually insecure and can be targeted by criminals. There are sound army choppers at his disposal,” said the senior officer.
The matter was being taken seriously in the PM office given that Raila on Friday began a four-day tour of Western and Nyanza provinces. He will mostly travel by air as he did on Friday.
In the same communiquÈ Njagi raised concern over increasing activities by Mungiki sect adherents in Dagoretti area, who he said have been demanding protection fees.
He said the sect members planned to administer an oath dubbed Shine ya Thafina to new recruits in Ndunyu area near Jediwa petrol station on February 8, and ordered for deployment of adequate police to carry out an operation and arrest those behind the event.
Several Mungiki suspects were arrested in the operation. It is not clear if Raila has agreed to start using Army choppers in his movements given he had in the past complained access was limited.
The security concern came up as some of the officers who monitor his movements complained that the commercial helicopter is usually parked at the Wilson Airport, where “total” security is not guaranteed.
The communiquÈ came at a time when some of the security personnel seconded to the PM have been complaining of receiving conflicting instructions from their seniors.
The pool that protects the PM is drawn from different units of the police force and prisons department. There are some officers from the General Service Unit, regular and Prisons. They all however take ‘separate’ orders from their respective supervisors.

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:06:39 -0800 [02:06:39 PM CST]
From: Judy Miriga
Subject: Saitoti do not fool us man……go fool your backyard….

Re: A FRESH ELECTION FOR KENYA’S NATIONAL SALVATION

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:54:31 +0000 [03:54:31 PM CST]
From: Kennedy Oduor
Subject: Re: A FRESH ELECTION FOR KENYA’S NATIONAL SALVATION

Thank you Mr.Nyamwamu for this contribution. I started calling upon Kenyans to demand fresh elections immediately I realized that this coalition had zero trust among them and there was nothing that it was going to do to the ordinary Kenyans. Kibaki has no political will to fight graft and to end tribalism while Raila Odinga’s hands are tied. The PM basically has no powers once the Accord specified that the President is both the Head of State and Head of government. The PM cannot sack Ali Hussein the Police Commissioner-only the President can but he has no will to do so. If this coalition was serious, people like Amos Wako..Aaron Ringera..Hussen Ali would have all been gone by now. But it seems the Presidents sees things very differently from the way majority Kenyans are seeing the same things.

I agree with you that only FRESH ELECTIONS will save kenyans from this monster that is driving them to nowhere. We are very likely not going to get a new constitution by 2012. The distrust and the bickering that will engulf the process is coming just like it happened in 2004-2005. This coalition also lacks moral legitimacy. Kenyans are still wondering whether they elected this government. They did not and they want their say very soon. I am calling upon Kenyans to demand a FRESH ELECTIONS so that we have a government by the people and for the people. A legitimate government that has the peoples mandate to do what the people have elected it to do. This negotiated government aint working.Corruption is moving on in full swing and the weak institutions are wobbling in their legs..

I still insist that the buck stops with the President and not anyone else including the Prime Minister. The President is both the head of state and head of government. Lets not hide anything the bickering and confusion between the PM and head of civil service is all created by the President. The confusion in parliament between the VP and the PM on who should be the leader of government business is one that was deliberately created and serves some people well..the BUCKS WILL ALWAYS STOP WITH THE PRESIDENT. This coalition is President Kibaki’s second admnistration and no one else’s administration. He refused to share power and authority and therefore he himself must bear the full responsibility of all that is going on including corruption and distrust in government.

Lets rally together Mr.Nyamwamu and call for fresh elections but the kenyan civil society must also WAKE UP from NOW!!! Mr.Orina where is the civil society? What happened to the civil society? Where is Kenya Human Rights Commission? Where is NCCK? Where is NCEC? Whre is 4Cs? Where is FIDA? Where is League of Women Voters? Where is LSK? Where is CLARION? Where is CGD? Where is TI? Mwalimu Mati is left alone fighting corruption and inefficiency in government. Can civil society call a National Civil Society Meeting and deliberate on the future of this country and the way forward?????

— On Fri, 13/2/09, orina Nyamwamu wrote:

From: orina Nyamwamu
Subject: A FRESH ELECTION FOR KENYA’S NATIONAL SALVATION
Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 7:42 AM

Wanabidii,

Pastor Stephen Kameti from Mwingi South told me on Sunday 8th last week that 20% is info rmation, 80% is attitude. And this Principle applies to everything.

From the rot in the NSE, NCPB, KNEC, Cabinet, Parliament, The Judiciary, The police force, the provincial administration to the famine in Kilifi, Kibwezi, Limuru down to the drought in Mandera; this country needs nothing more so urgently and so badly than a fresh election to get rid of all these men and women who have invaded our land.

If you did not realize, the damage that the Kibaki-Raila government is causing to the nation is worse than a foreign invasion from e..g. Uganda .

Foreign invasion is never has bad as internal invasion. Germany was bombed to the ground but this united the Germans to with fervor built within three decades the greatest economy in Europe and the third in the world. Look the damage George Bush has done to the country within 8 short years!

These guys are looting and we are not doing a thing. If it was for example Uganda invading Kenya- it could unite us in repulsing their advance into our territory. Unfortunately these invaders are sitting pretty, pillaging our nation and laughing at us.

If it was Uganda invading us, we could not allow it to steal as much as the amount Yagnesh Devani has stolen from us in a week. What Moi stole from us, what Kibaki and Raila’s ministers have stolen from us.

Imagine that Kibaki-Raila has auctioned all our public assets and as if not painful enough, they have now auctioned nearly 40, 0000 hectare of land in the Tana Delta – the most fertile of our land to the Arabs- for the Arabs to feed their people- as ours starve.

But while a Ugandan invasion will unite us in getting the best out of us, the Kibaki-Raila invasion is destroying all our institutions and undermining our future. They have destroying our values, our self believe, our family institution with their utter and gory corruption, they have subverted the church and other religious institutions, they have subverted our education system to be an education for supporting their corruption and privatization of the nation and selling it to the richest MNCs in the world; they have destroyed our governance institutions;

If Raila and Kibaki;

– have refused to sack Genral Ali even after the Waki report emphatically recommended this

– they have left that KACC man – Ringera in office

– Wako is in office

The Americans are now feeling the effects of Bush’s first 5 years of corruption and misrule. We are just beginning to feel the effects of the Moi era corruption and invasion. The effects of the Kibaki- Raila invasion will be felt in 2016 and they will be severe and irreparable.

If we want Police commissioner Ali to go and be held accountable- we need a fresh election immediately- this year.

If we want an end to Amos Wako’s 19 years of destruction and corruption- we need a fresh election

If we want an end to the Michuki- Saitoti killings of Kenyans using the police force- we need a fresh election today

If we need a democratic and people centered Katiba to entrench democracy and accountable government- we need a leadership that can save the nation from these 46 years of destruction – we need an election

If we want an end to the looting by Ministers and MPs- we need a fresh election

If we want the masterminds of the 2007-8 post election killings and rape- we need a fresh election

If we want an end to the poverty and famine we are witnessing today- we need a CLEAR government- a Clean, Lean, Effective, Accountable and Responsive government – this is only possible through an election to throw out all these cynical men and women of disrepute

Something Sinister is Going on With Raila’s Security; (etc.)

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:28:38 +0000 [03:28:38 PM CST]
From: Kennedy Oduor
Subject: Something Sinister is Going on With Raila’s Security

Raila security team undergoes restructuring

By Isaac Ongiri

East African Standard:

Questions have emerged over a move by the Government to dismantle a VIP police unit guarding the Prime Minister. All the 46 officers, who were last year deployed to the Prime Minister’s Escort Unit, have now been asked to take orders from their unit commanders, not a central unit. The officers were initially under the command of a senior superintendent of police based at Vigilance House while an inspector of police had been posted as field commander. The new order has been followed by another move to withdraw privileged allowances for the officers.

Though all the officers are still undertaking their duties, confusion looms over the multiple commands they are now exposed to. Police Spokesman Eric Kiraithe who spoke to The Standard on Sunday said, “It is not good to discuss VIP security in the media but I want to challenge anyone to go to the PM’s office to confirm that the officers are there.” Asked about the dismantled unit, Kiraithe referred The Standard on Sunday to the Police Commissioner Maj-General Hussein Ali denying knowledge.

“It is only the Police Commissioner, who may know about police units, when they are created and when they are dismantled, please talk to him,” Kiraithe said.But he confirmed that Vigilance House had withdrawn allowances paid to the officers to harmonise treatment of police officers. “Some of the officers there are only lamenting over the allowances we withdrew, and this is because we want all policemen treated equally. They face the same challenges anyway,” Kiraithe said. He further said all policemen would now be entitled to uniform allowances depending on their ranks, which those who have been working as VIP guards may not be happy about. The 46 officers working at the PM’s office have had their allowances such as suit, risk and plain-clothe allowances scrapped. “This is causing confusion. We have a feeling it is aimed at discouraging some of us, because our colleagues who do ordinary jobs make more money than us,” said one of the disgruntled officers.

Initially the officers were entitled to a VIP allowance of Sh3,000 a month. Officers working under the Presidential Escort Unit, from where the President and the Vice-President draw their guards, we learnt is still drawing all their allowance including Sh5,000 VIP monthly allowances. Raila’s guards have also had their per diem allowances of Sh5,000 a night, down graded to Sh1,200 beginning last month. Provincial Administration and Internal Security Secretary Kenneth Lusaka told The Standard on Sunday the matter was sensitive and referred us to police spokesman. “Those are issues under the police command, I prefer you speak directly to the police spokesman, he may be of help,” he said. Moments after the National Accord was signed, Raila was pampered with a team of high profile officers drawn from the Presidential Escort Unit deployed to reinforce his private guards. The team equipped with all arms together with police outriders left barely two weeks after Raila officially took over office.

“When you have a special unit commander like the one which was formed by the Commissioner of Police, all officers take command from a central unit base,” said a top security officer, who did not want to be named.

“Attempts to water down the unit is something I find funny, but this will now give bosses to whom the officers would be answerable to an opportunity to change them and redeploy others at will,” he said. Adding all the officers from the unit that has been silently watered down, will now be working at the mercy of their commands.

“Those who came from the Recee Company will revert, terms of taking orders to that company. Those from Administration Police, regular police and any other force will do the same,” the security officer explained. Vice-President Kalonzo Musyoka enjoys the services of highly trained guards from the Presidential Escort team. He is also free to be accompanied by up to five of the guards while on foreign trips. International Protocols stand in the way of the Prime Minister to travel with any of the 46 officers deployed to guard him. Sources privy to the restructuring say the squad, like previous ones, had a timeline.

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:40:16 +0000 [02/13/2009 02:40:16 PM CST]
From: katex john
Subject: Re: Kenya’s next election

Thanks for your advise. I will surely float my agenda soon..

— On Fri, 13/2/09, Andy Amadi wrote:

From: Andy Amadi
Subject: Re: Kenya’s next election
Date: Friday, 13 February, 2009, 8:01 AM

Katex,
You are very high on ambition, which is good. Now you need to apply strategy. Are you ready to quit what you are doing or change what you do in order to match your intentions? I believe that if you put will behind intention then the universe will re-arrange to make possible that which you have declared.
We have way too many arm-chair analysts and pundits and change-seekers who will tell you how impossible it is. Not very many ready to walk the talk. I really think we need to get very many young people actually and actively involved in public affairs.
Your declaration, however, (especially, because it appears) far fetched is an excellent starting point. Now you need to marry your intentions with your actions to give integrity to your ambition.
when I say “you” I am also talking to myself and to others who want a place in the management of public affairs.
My challenge to you, myself and everybody else; join a political party (or movement), have an agenda, stick to the script, hold the party accountable, retain integrity, remain “on song:, do this at all opportunity as a way of being, enroll other people, do not be constrained by time or money and then see what happens. It may take a year, it may take ten years. Change will not be as easy as flipping the channels on TV. But it is not impossible.
Sincerely,

Andy

2009/2/13 monicah

Katex,

I admire your courage and confidence in knowing that you can make a leader and rehabilitate our ill fallen and dying nation; but on the contrary,
You should know that by now (Like yesterday) you are already disqualified from running for the presidential seat.
What Kenyans want is a person who barely has a tribal thought in, on, within or near him/her!!!!
Irregardless of how small your tribe is you should know that that is immaterial in this context!!!!
Wanabidii can prove me wrong that we are all one…………. Our tribe is Kenyan the rest is what you choose to become!
More to it……….. We don’t need cute women (don’t market yourself that way coz by now I know that u know beauty is in the eyes of the beholder) all what Kenyans are asking for is a functional, “cute” (if u insist) selfless brain that is focused on the development and welfare of the country and her people.
You’ve got this you have my support and many others who wish to have a lady for a president!

Monic

From: henry ouma
Sent: 13 February 2009 08:39

Subject: Re: Kenya’s next election

Katex,

Please hurry up.

Please give us a detailed agenda on how you’d transform Kenya upon your election as president .

Based on your agenda, we should start hitting the road.

— On Thu, 2/12/09, katex john wrote:

From: katex john
Subject: Kenya’s next election
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 1:34 PM

You guys can vote me for the fourth president of Kenya. I am a lady, from a small tribe and a youth (between 30 and 40).

I have all it takes so other than voting me on the basis of minority I will have all the required qualifications. I am a strategic management major, International business minor, ICT compliant (both engineering and IT) and above all I’m cute. Who wouldn’t want such a President for 2012 to 2017? Women on this forum, popularise me..

— On Thu, 12/2/09, David Kilonzi wrote:

From: David Kilonzi
Subject: Re: Americans Proved Me Wrong for Electing Barry Hussein Obama
Date: Thursday, 12 February, 2009, 11:50 AM
I am seconding Job,

Let the soo “minority” rise up and be counted. We can not just go to the streeet and pick up a physically challenged person or a woman and elect them to the presidency. They must, like Ngilu, stand up and be counted amongst the political elite

On 11/02/2009, Job Kazi wrote:

Amenya,
If youcan remove the drama from the logic, and I know it is hard because of the sensation of Obama’s election, then we can have a chat. Americans did not go out to elect Obama because he is black!!
Asking that we emulate Americans and elect a person because they are a minority is just as discriminatory as not electing them because of what makes them a minority.
Positive discrimination has no Integrity and is in itself a contradiction in terms.
Perhaps what we could try on is what I think the Americans did which was elect the person who mist inspired them, in spite (not because) of his name, race, parentage, profession, marital status, religion, preference in sports teams.
I truly believe that there are Obama’s amongst us and they are so because they are good and not because of the label we attach to describe them.
I would not mind voting in a person who is Kikuyu, Kalenjin, Muindi, Muslim, Jew, Mzungu, Jang’o, Njemp, Man, Woman,fat thin, even gay (yes I said that); if they display the qualities of an Obama.
Lets focus on the intrinsic qualities and allow someone to inspire, rather than think that the magic is in the packaging. We will, as sure as death and taxes, end up with more of the same if we continue to think that one’s skin colour, ethnicity, religion, age, gender, height, weight or other external attributes will bring the leadership we crave.
Sincerely,
J

2009/2/11 amenya gibson

n my life time as I head towards 30s

I had I never felt that a black person would ever become the president of America but I was proved wrong by Americans

Truly and forthrightly, if I was quizzed on this I would say it singly “It is NOT possible” for such a thing to happen in the USA
Maybe over my dead body heheheheheeeee

Beyond any shadows of doubts, America has proven that she is really the pace setter of democracy. In fact, America has the most advanced democracy.

With the election of Barry Hussy Obamash- into the oval office, Americans saw no colour, no race, no divide, no hatred, no handicap, no discrimination
He inspired Americans and the world especially with hope and change; he made us all to expunge fear, defeat, and weakness.
For many across Africa and the world at large.
Obama’s election demonstrates The America’s reputation as a country of interminable opportunities.

But for the world’s poorest continent, the rise of a man of African heritage to America’s highest office is a source of colossal pride and hope.
As Nelosn Mandela remarked
“Your victory has demonstrated that no person anywhere in the world should not dare to dream of wanting to change the world for a better place”.

My humblest Question to kenyans
Are we willing to emulate Americans
1-By Voting someone physically challenged to be our next President?
2-Are ready to chose a president or a leader who comes from Minorities
3-Are we ready and willing to elect a leader who is A Female we have had 3 Males so far

Over to you Kenyans

bye
Gibson Amenya.
Global Greens

Re: Confused of her identity!

A customer told me of a very interesting story. She told me that she has got three cats and one dog that seem to like one another and pray together.

What has been interesting to observe is that the dog steals and eats the cats’ food. She has done this several times that along the way, she has lost her identity. She now acts like a cat! Just think about that!

No sooner had she left than my computer went on research to see if indeed at one time or the other, we human beings, have found ourselves confused as well. Here is the result of my search!

-There are people out there who think that because they walk or are friends with the rich and famous, they too are rich!
-There are adults out there who dress, talk, reason, drive, curse, and behave as though they are still teenagers
-There are people who don’t have anything and yet act as if they have it all.
-There are people who are not either teachers or pastors but they claim to be in some circles
-There are people out there who do not know a direction to a given place, but will go a head anyway and give some wrong direction
-And like Jesus once said, there are people who are blind in spiritual matters and yet claim to see.
-But perhaps the most interesting one is for those of us who have accepted Jesus Christ as our personal Savior and yet we have failed to leave the world alone. To such, there will be need to reflect on the following Passage of scripture:

“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” (1 John 2:15.)

Furthermore, if you have time, read John 17 to see how Jesus Prayed for His disciples to be “In this world, but not of this world!

Do you understand your identity in all ways or are you too confused?

Just a thought!

Pr Birai

– – –
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:36:09 -0800 [02/13/2009 10:36:09 PM CST]
From: Absalom Birai
Subject: Re: Confused of her identity!

?AIDS RIGHTS? New Health-Related Blogging Campaign Starts February 14th: Please Join Us!

Dear Friends,

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A “Blogging Positively Guide,” now in the works, will provide valuable advice on how to blog to address HIV/AIDS issues. We are looking for help to create the Guide and/or to give feedback, so those interested in or already blogging about the pandemic are encouraged to participate. People living with or affected by HIV/AIDS are especially encouraged to become involved.

A global interactive map–with entries about HIV/AIDS-related blogs and bloggers who write on that theme–is being created, and we hope you will send information to add to our growing list!

A “Blogging Positively” chat, intended as an ongoing discussion about blogging to address HIV/AIDS, is scheduled for February 27, 2009 at the following times: 9 a.m. New York, 2 p.m. London, 5 p.m. Nairobi. This chat will build on the insights shared during the highly successful World AIDS Day chat, held on December 3, 2008.

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– – –
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:53:48 -0500 [01:53:48 AM CST]
From: Janet Feldman
Subject: ?AIDS RIGHTS? New Health-Related Blogging Campaign Starts February 14th: Please Join Us!

The financers and the organizers of Kenyan post-election violence should be tried at ICC The Hague-Netherlands.

By Rev Okoth Otura

The Christian Democratic Movement of Kenya (CDM-K) has resolved to back the resolution to charge post-election violence proprietors at The Hague.

This resolution was reached upon after serious consultative meetings of the CDM-K board held in Toronto, chaired by Rev. Okoth Otura, and attended by CDM-K officials, Barry Onyango ,Grace Holla, Deborah Cooper and William Oduor (via Teleconference in Denmark).

CDM-K therefore wishes to urge Kenyan president, Mwai Kibaki, and the prime minister, Raila Odinga , to stop interfering with the democratic process in the parliamentary voting pattern by applying old fashioned dictatorial ideology of threatening, and bribing their MP’s to vote against their conscience.

It is imprudent for foreign envoys in Kenya to join the chorus in urging Kenyan MP’s to back the Local Tribunal considering the corrupt justice system that even their own governments have criticized before, and not forgetting the economic crimes, human rights violations, assassinations and mass killings by the Kenyan government which have never been resolved.
Since Kenya got it’s independence in 1963, the Kenyan government has massacred and assassinated thousands of her citizens and none of the proprietors have faced justice. When late Jomo Kenyatta assassinated Pio Gama Pinto , TJ Mboya and JM Kariuoki we had inquiries and tribunals which until now have not solved anything; the master -minders and killers are still free.
In 1969 the late Kenyatta ordered his security agents to massacre luos from Kisumu to Awasi border of Rift Valley, no justice until now. Former president Moi’s 23 year regime in which thousands Kenyans disappeared, tortured, maimed and killed in land clashes is no different. The master- minders and financers are still in government, no justice for ordinary Kenyans.

It is unfortunate for Kenyans to assume that the Local Tribunal will by any means provide justice in an environment of intimidation and political correctness. In the wake of crisis, the Kenyan government has involved itself in public relations propaganda for instance, forming tribunals, inviting foreign investigative agencies, in a bid to save their face but with no real intention of exposing the guilty. Scotland Yard was invited to investigate Dr. Robert Ouko’s murder but even then allowed very little resources room to conduct a thorough and fair investigation. In addition, various reports have pointed a finger at the government as being involved in blantant inteference including eliminating potential witnesses in the case (or was it just a coincidence that all potential witnesses died of ‘short ilnesses’). Is this a government that should be trusted with it’s own tribunal?

The elites and the financers of the post election violence in Kenya are immune to criminal inquiries and therefore any locally established tribunal court in Kenya will be obviously manipulated by these corrupt, wealthy politicians.
Hundreds or perhaps thousands of young Kelanjin, Luhya and Luo ODM protesters who had no role in organizing the violence are still being held in Kenyan prisons in connection with said post election violence, while supporters of Kibaki-PNU and the Kenya Police who triggered and committed crimes against humanity are receiving less attention from foreign envoys and the Kenyan Government. The ‘crackdown’ on mungiki has been a shallow PR tactic by the government, to be seen as doing something about the banned violent sect, yet reports have implicated senior government officials being involved and financing mungiki during the post-election violence and for political assasination.
Indeed this is a blind justice, the manner in which disproportional arrest have been done clearly indicates that by no means determination of innocence or guilt will be made without bias or prejudice in Kenya.

Generally the Kenya n Justice fishnet is only capable of catching small innocent fish but incapable to catch the Nile Perch, and thus the Hague is the best option, even if it will take a while but there would be hope that the process of justice will be allowed to prevail and that the financers of the post election violence, no matter who they are, will face justice.

CDM-K has filed various complaints at The Hague regarding the abuse of human rights, unsolved murders and economic crimes in Kenya and we are optimistic that our complaints will be looked at in light of the post-election violence.

CDM-K still maintains that The Hague must act swiftly and act upon the several complains that we had filed, in addition to several from ODM and many other human rights organizations to prosecute the proprietors of the violence which left thousands maimed, killed and many still living as refugees.

– – –
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:08:16 -0800 [10:08:16 AM CST]
From: ndebele okoth
Subject: The financers and the organizers of Kenyan post-election violence should be tried at ICC The Hague-Netherlands.

Re: 6 Soldiers Killed- Chinese Lories finishing Kenyan Soldiers

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:56:35 -0800 [02/13/2009 07:56:35 AM CST]
From: Geofrey Lijoodi
Subject: Re: 6 Soldiers Killed- Chinese Lories finishing Kenyan Soldiers

very true, the army guys have evn nicknamed those trucks.
— On Thu, 2/12/09, amenya gibson wrote:

From: amenya gibson
Subject: Re: 6 Soldiers Killed- Chinese Lories finishing Kenyan Soldiers
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 5:09 AM

Robert and Dickson

Whom do you think will listen to your voices?

Just wondering if Mr Njenga Karume is still in Kenya he was Defense Minister and we all laughed when he was appointed

Ask Nation Media Group,it raised this issue and a stern warning was given to them

See no evil,hear no Evil man nikii wee

Nation nowadays never says anything about it again

After all no one ever cares when our Soldiers get killed not in line of duty but via human neglect

The army person who procured those trucks in his/her mind was money first

Never cared whom those trucks will be carrying because their children wont be in there

Until we start lobbying our leaders to scrutinize Defense Budgets we shall keep mourning as we see great brains get crashed on our roads in those Trucks

NB-C.O.G-Center of Gravity when COG is very high the stability of the Vehicle is compromised,that is why sports cars have low COG-for stability

And what about The Swaraj buses from Alfa Motors Limited and Kebs saga?

Bye
Gibson Amenya

From: Dickson mathai
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:26:20 PM
Subject: Re: 6 Soldiers Killed. Chinese Lories finishing Kenyan SOldiers

Can someone tell Kianga that those chinese trucks are only very good on rough terrain,not on the tarmac.The other day i was trying to compete with one from Nairobi to Nakuru and guess what,i overtook it somewhere past Naivasha.Those DMCs are very fast.Infakt i had to really push my ride hard to overtake,at 160 km/h and i wish u saw that thing negotiating corners.It could really swing on one side coz of inertia.Something is wrong with it and it is it’s C.O.G

— On Thu, 2/12/09, Robert Alai wrote:

From: Robert Alai
Subject: 6 Soldiers Killed. Chinese Lories finishing Kenyan SOldiers
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 1:16 AM

Guys

Now we have another 6 soldiers killed while going for training. We have had many of our soldiers killed in these Chinese Lorries. How many more soldiers must be killed so that the lorries can be withdrawn from our arsenal?

These soldiers are our brothers and sisters. They deserve better conditions also. How many soldiers must die?

The steyr Trucks are finishing our soldiers

Robert

Re: Hongera to Kenya’s Parliament! The sadest day in deed!

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 02:52:54 -0800 [02/13/2009 04:52:54 AM CST]
From: HUMPHREY OMONDI
Subject: Re: Hongera to Kenya’s Parliament! The sadest day in deed!!

What baffles me is the fact that ‘Kenyans’, to say the least are celebrating at the turn of events.

We should be very sensitive to the fact that the so called Hague is not a solution to the Kenyan problems.

To the victims of the injustices committed by their fellow country men, who will ever fight for them?
The MPs have just shown us that they are so insensitive to the issues b trying to lie to wananchi that the ICC is the best option

My keen analysis of the whole idea is that these legislators colluded to deprive the victims of the skirmishes of their right for justice.

How then can you explain the sudden change of events in which Rift Valley MPs overwhelmingly voted against the bill, yet until recently they never wanted to hear the word HAGUE!

Let the truth be told.

The loser hear here is the Kenyan man, woman and child who was affected in one way or another as a result of the post election violence

Our Parliament has therefore deprived Kenyans of a very vital institution that would have seen justice to all Kenyans without having to look at who is who is this country.

Nothing and I mean NOTHING will come out of the Hague and that’s the bitter truth!!!!

— On Thu, 2/12/09, Chris Mogere wrote:

From: Chris Mogere
Subject: Re: Hongera to Kenya’s Parliament!
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 10:00 PM

I am saddened by your pride, this is the saddest day in Kenyan history..forget about the Hague we lost the fight against rapists, murderers, corruption…think of all kinds crime done in this country. We just lost and Kibaka should prologue pariament immediately for re-introduction of the bill after some amendments

From: Mburu
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:26:37 PM
Subject: Hongera to Kenya’s Parliament!

For the first-time since 2002, Kenya’s MPS have done what they should
be doing.

They voted against the Special Tribunal Kenya despite Kibaki and Raila
being in Parliment.

I really wonder what the suspects in the Waki Envelope are feeling!

Just follow this link and read for yourself:

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/529618/-/u1yqau/-/index.html

Mburu

Re: Mr. President and Prime Minister: stop guess work leadership with our lives!

Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:46:23 -0800 [02/13/2009 02:46:23 AM CST]
From: odhiambo okecth
Subject: Re: Mr. President and Prime Minister: stop guess work leadership with our lives!

— On Fri, 2/13/09, odhiambo okecth wrote:
From: odhiambo okecth
Subject: Re: Mr. President and Prime Minister: stop guess work leadership with our lives!
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:15 AM

In the US, President Obama has put a ceiling on the highest pay for public servants.

In New Zealand, Members of Parliament voted for their pay cut.

In Nigeria, President Yar Adua has asked for similar austerity measures.

All these leaders are responding to the hard economic times that is global.

In Kenya, it is only Kamba leaders who have come to terms with reality and launched a kitty to address the famine situation and pledged to make contributions of Kshs 250,000.00 each.

The rest are competing for sale of maize reserves to make profits as Kenya starves.

Odhiambo T Oketch
http://kcdnkomarockswatch.blogspot.com

— On Thu, 2/12/09, George Nyongesa wrote:

From: George Nyongesa
Subject: Mr. President and Prime Minister: stop guess work leadership with our lives!
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:29 PM

BUNGE LA MWANANCHI
“Amkeni ndugu zetu tufanye sote bidii…”

_________ ___

13th February, 2009

Press Statement

President Kibaki and Prime Minister Raila Odinga: Stop guesswork leadership with our lives!

We are utterly dismayed at the fact that Unga (maize flour) prices have hiked back to KES 120/- per 2 kg packet. This even as Prime Minister Raila Odinga and Minister for Agriculture William Ruto have not yet recovered from a marathon public relation exercise duping Kenyans that the government has subsidized Unga price to cost KES 52/-for the poor and KES 72/- for the rich, per 2kg packet.

This present hike in price of Unga is even more alarming coming less than a month in the wake of Prime Minister’s launch of the “feed the nation” program that gave us above alleged subsidized prices. Yet there is no known Kenyan who can testify to the taste of the subsidized Bamba 50 unga?

If the two principals – President Kibaki and Prime Minister Odinga – can remember, the food agenda is the first priority item that Kenyans presented to the Coalition Government within one month of its formation. The matter of food is a life and death issue! World over, any government’s priority mandate is to ensure citizens’ security from within and without. Food is a basic human right. Food supports life and from life all other human rights emanate. Without food security there is really no need for external security. In this regard, can the government of Kenya really claim to protect Kenyans? Can the government of Kenya dare to claim to respect and uphold any human rights? Can the government of Kenya claim to be responsive and sensitive to its citizens?

It is now a year after thousands of urban poor Kenyans were clobbered, tear-gassed and arrested by Kenya’s state machinery of violence – the Kenya Police – and charged with illegal assembly for coming to the streets of Nairobi to dramatize their struggles and agony over inaccessibility of food due to unchecked increase of basic commodity prices; especially of Unga.

Although driven back to their hovels by the uncaring leadership, Kenyans would not be broken. Instead, Kenyans have kept up the struggle for survival: adopted skip-a-meal- a day program, eaten rats, wild tubers and berries; fed their children on alcohol to cheat hunger, risked their lives in the petrol fire tragedy and even risked jail or death for petitioning Mr. President on this man-made food scarcity.

Mr President and Mr Prime Minister, now that some Kenyans have already succumbed to starvation, what should we say to you and of you as our leaders? When you coalesced your campaign promises, your campaign pledges and your campaign manifestos under grand coalition government, we had imagined that we shall have grand solutions to our grand problems. However, we are rudely awakening to the fact that close to 50 years after the independence promise to get Kenyans out of poverty and 10 years after the NARC dream promise of prosperity, millions of Kenyans remain shackled in the poverty shame of hunger and starvation. Do you sleep peacefully in your mansions after evening news shots of hungry Kenyans gone wild on snake delicacy? How do you feel when you travel abroad to countries with serious leadership about their citizens’ needs? Do you ever feel ashamed at your claim of Kenya’s sovereignty when you put out the begging bowl to foreigners?

Your Excellencies, why should we beg for emergency food aid of KES 37 billion when in the last government financial year you presided over the loss of KES 200 billion through corruption, pilferage and mismanagement? How could you, while Kenyans are starving, spend in 3 days close to KES 100 million convening 2000 people for the “Kenya we want” to discuss what we presumed you were aware of or at least was in your manifestos, as you pursued the highest office? Why can’t you firmly deal with profiteer rackets in the maize industry led by members of parliament and their business cronies? When shall we have an end to messy politics being played with our Unga?

The maize scandal like other corruptions in your government must at all costs not be downplayed and must be named for the economic sabotage that it is. Without food, Kenyans are not able to work and even begin to achieve minimum personal or national development goals. Without food, billions of shillings invested in free primary education will be wasted as children won’t go to school. Without food, billions of money spent on anti-retroviral drugs for HIV/AIDS patients will not achieve much due to poor nutrition. Without food, the basic unit of the society – the family – will be threatened as pressure and tension increase on family breadwinners who cannot provide for their dependants. Without food, it will not take long for ethnic tension to resurface to threaten our shaky national cohesion as communities resort to fighting over scarce resources.

Kenya is not the only country globally, facing a financial and/or food crisis. However, where other countries’ leaders are actively exploring viable solutions to their citizens’ harsh lives and working overtime to acquaint each citizen with the recovery plan, Kenya’s leaders seem to be caught in a game of guesswork. For instance you came up with a government plan to subsidize Unga to cost KES. 52/- per 2kg packet but this Unga never got to the kiosk near those who desperately needed it and now it is become clear to all of us that that Unga no longer exists. How can this be when the conditions that pressured you to this action still exist and are even worse?

This flip flop government policy on Unga has now confirmed to us, the army of workers, poorly paid, starving taxpayers, that our leadership: the President, the Prime Minister, Members of Parliament and the political elite lack the humane spirit to drive them to volitionally stem hunger and famine related difficulties. Therefore, we as the nation’s workers and the taxpayers demand as follows:

1. Stop games on the food issue and urgently adopt robust mechanisms to stem the rising tide of anarchy of hungry and angry Kenyans – our patience is painfully worn out and in not so long we will be forced to vividly express our frustration.
2. The President and Prime Minister must take steps to order an immediate cut down on all wasteful government expenditures, including Mr Prime Minister’s luxurious new office purchase.
3. The government takes immediate action, including removal of taxes on basic commodities. On the same, since many Kenyans are unemployed with shaky income, we further demand that the price reduction on Unga is made to KES 30/= per 2kg packet. Further still, all old people living in Kenyan must be provided with free food on government’s tub.
4. All lawmakers must pay taxes including the President and Prime Minister and must with immediate effect take salary cuts or forefeit it as a patriotic act and to show solidarity with the 10 million plus Kenyans that are facing death from starvation.
5. Quickly review the agriculture laws and policies to facilitate a sustainable food security strategy to be adopted.
6. Considering the importance of the Ministry for Agriculture in food production and the centrality of food to all else that pertains to life, including personal and national development, we demand that the Ministry for Agriculture be allocated not KES. 10 billion but as much as KES. 90 billion in the national budget. Further, if it is necessary that the Ministry for Agriculture’s mandate be moved under the Office of the President in order that it receives adequate attention and budgetary allocation, then this must be fast-tracked.
7. The government must together with addressing the food issue, likewise concentrate on dealing with inter-connected issues such as creating environment for job creation, proper priority national budgeting and ending political impunity in the form of corruption involving basic commodities.
8. Kenyans refuse to have people that have been heavily implicated in grand corruption especially maize cartels to continue enjoying public office and flying our flag. We demand that that the President and Prime Minister “fires” all legislators implicated in maize cartels must desist from engaging in any public appointment and forthwith vacate their public office.

In the modern world, food scarcity, hunger and starvation can no longer be blamed on weather elements alone but must rest squarely on bad leadership. Therefore, Kenyans sternly warn that if this leadership does nothing or is seen to be doing something concrete in the next 30 days, Kenyans will have no choice but to take it upon themselves to make it extremely difficult for the current leaders to continue to hold office, carry out business as usual and fly our flags on their obscenely luxurious automobiles.

In straight language, Mr President and Mr. Prime Minister, you have the State tools, State power and State resources to ensure our security especially food security for all Kenyans. Therefore, if you do not take appropriate emergency and long term action in our best interests, Wananchi will have no choice but bring down your leadership and install for themselves a leadership that is responsive, people sensitive and accountable.

Prepared by
Bunge la Mwananchi
Grass root Leaders Council
W: www.bungelamwananch i.org
E: mwananchibunge@ gmail.com
T: +254 720 451 235

KTN’s Moi propaganda is disgusting and insulting

Wanabidii

Moi did more harm to Kenya than good. I find it disgusting that KTN is always feeding us with Moi’s propaganda while Moi is a killer who should have been gassed long time ago. Moi is not someone I will even give a minute. Moi belongs to the gas chambers.

Lets not be fed all these crap by KTN. Moi is a thief, Killer, tribalist and the worst dictator ever

M

– – –
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:29:29 +0300 [12:29:29 PM CST]
From: mike oketch
Subject: KTN’s Moi propaganda is disgusting and insulting

Mwangura: I might be arrested when ship docks –

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:50:08 -0800 [05:50:08 PM CST]
From: Judy Miriga
Subject: Mwangura: I might be arrested when ship docks –

Folks,

Kenyan Armed Force has taken control and are in the Leadership of Kenya today. The elected MPs in Parliament are treated to window dressing on the face of the world. Saitoti is appointed by Kibaki in a quite coup to lead the country under the Armed Force rule. They now wield power to decide the lives of the majority Kenyans. Mwangura may not survive under these circumstances since he spilled the beans and exposed the scandal of the armed cargo intended for dubious motives in Kenya.

We demand a thorough investigation by the world intervention concerning destination of this shipment cargo and why all the drama and fiasco.

Why are Kenyans security not guaranteed anymore. Mwangura’s life seems to be in danger. May the international community – leaders of the world and the United Nations come together to unvail this mystery for security and safety of Kenyans.

Thank you all,

Judy Miriga

Diaspora Spokesperson

Executive Director

African Women Lobby Network Inc.

Mwangura: I might be arrested when ship docks

Updated 3 hr(s) 34 min(s) ago

By Standard Team

Mystery surrounds the location of MV Faina, even as a maritime official sought protection against possible arrest in connection with the ship. Though the Government said the ship would dock at Mombasa port today, the ship’s movement has been shrouded in mystery since Somali pirates released it last week after the payment of a Sh250 million ransom. The ship, laden with arms consigned for Mombasa, entered Kenyan waters on Monday, but has been slowed down by a bad engine. The Standard established that the ship anchored off Kiwayu Island, a distance of 45 minutes by fast boat from Lamu.

By Tuesday evening though, the ship had not reached Lamu island. And a maritime official, previously arrested in connection with MV Faina, has gone to court seeking preemptive bail, saying police want to detain him when the ship arrives. East Africa Sea Farers Assistance Programme co-ordinator Andrew Mwangura fears that CID officers are about to arrest him on allegations regarding the ship.

Through his lawyer Francis Kadima, Mr Mwangura has filed a suit under a certificate of urgency, claiming that security agents visited his residence in search of him after the release of the vessel.

“The applicant is consequently reasonably apprehensive of his imminent arrest in violation of his right to liberty unless the same is stopped by an order of the court,” said Kadima. Mwangura is facing another charge of allegedly publishing alarming statements concerning the ship and its cargo and is out on a Sh200,000 bond.

The lawyer said the court should direct Mwangura to be admitted to bond or bail prior to the arrest, adding that he would attend court if summoned. Kadima said his client was apprehensive because when he was first detained, security officers told him they would take him to an “unknown destination”. “The security agents want to in fringe the applicant’s constitutional right on freedom of expression, movement, association and freedom of conscience as enshrined in the Constitution,” said Kadima.

He said the policy of the court was to prohibit the use of criminal process and criminal justice systems to enforce suspicions or false allegations. Mwangura says the fear of his imminent arrest and detention has seriously dented his public image.

-Reporting by Philip Mwakio and

Maureen Mudi

Re: Ruto Will Not Resign

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:05:18 +0300 [12:05:18 PM CST]
From: Harun Kaburia
Subject: Re: Ruto Will Not Resign

Kennedy, why are you pouring so much tribal vitriol? If you expect to be treated and perceived any differently from the people who hacked, maimed, killed and burned their long-time neighbours in the name of ‘spontaneous reaction’ to a stolen election, when in the real sense it was just a cover-up for tribal hatred, then you got to speak and act differently from them. Reading you contribution, and from where I stand, you are no different from any of them!

That said, in my view, it is important for leaders not only to be, but also be seen to be, clean and above board. It matters not who they are or the rank they hold in government – once there is reasonable doubt regarding their accountability and cleanliness from corruption, they should step aside and subject themselves to the will of the law, then if cleared, they can re-take their positions.

Kibaki has not done his best to lead from the front when it comes to fighting corruptions and punishing wrong-doings of his ministers – that is why he had the audacity to re-appoint Kimunya to the cabinet before making public the Cockar report (which incidentally we paid for!!).

In an earlier contribution, I had asked why parliament cannot pass a law that compels the president to release the reports of public-funded commissions within a specified period after the commissions complete their work. There has been too much wastage of public funds spent on time-wasting commissions, which are pegged on the fact that as Kenyans, we have short memories and we can be relied upon to forget very fast.

So, yes, Ruto must go!! And so must Kiraitu. And so must any other leader with whom there is reasonable doubt regarding their cleanliness.

And yes, we know that Rome was not built in a day, but the steps we are making of demanding accountability from our leaders are the right ones, and one day, the mere whiff of corruption on any leader will be treated with the gravity it deserves, and we’ll see presidents stepping aside, much like Thambo Mbeki, because they are seen to have contravened the law.

One day!

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Kennedy Oduor wrote:

Thank you Mary for your incisive analysis of whats going on in Kenya about the the so called “Maize scandal”. I have always said in this forum that we know the tribalists and we can point out at them. They have destroyed this country since independence and they are geared towards doing more harm in Kenya. Now they are using all avenues and agencies including an agency that should really be respected and should not be involved in politics to tarnish and demonize William Ruto.

Let me be frank with my fellow Kenyans. The Kikuyu leadership is out to tarnish Rutto’s name and make sure that he is done by 2012. He is a threat to the Kikuyu/GEMA tribalists and they cant just stand him. Now they argue that Kimunya resigned..resigned my foot?..Where is Kimunya now..he resigned to cheat unsuspecting Kenyans who thought that they can fight “Kikuyu corruption”..they cant..Kibaki is there as the BACKSTOPPER of Kikuyu corruption..Did he not cleanse SAITOTI..CLEANSE KIRAITU and cleanse MWIRARIA?? DID Kibaki not cleanse ARTUR BROTHERS?..Kikuyu leadership is DESTROYING this country as OTHERS watch..Continue watching..they dont care and they dont give a DAMN..They stole the elections in broad daylight..they are now doing what they want to do..WHERE IS ODM..WHERE IS RAILA ODINGA..WHERE IS ODM??

— On Sun, 8/2/09, mary matengo wrote:

From: mary matengo
Subject: Ruto must not Resign to please tribalists and Standard group
Date: Sunday, 8 February, 2009, 1:13 PM

Guys

Tribal chauvinists and Standard Group which is Moi’s slaughter house is calling for Ruto to go. We know their agenda. Ruto must not play to the hands of cheap tribal goons who murder and now wants him to resign. Ruto blocked the thieves who killed tthe local Sugar, Maize and other industries. He has made a farmer in Kirinyaga equal to a farmer in Karachuonyo unlike before when can farmers were being strangled by importers.

Ruto did the unthinkable, had NCPB have a maize bag for the poor. Ruto iss going nowhere. Ruto has done wonders in Agriculture industry

mary

Re: The presenter on KTN

Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:58:36 -0800 [11:58:36 AM CST]
From: otieno sungu
Subject: Re: The presenter on KTN

Pedestrian street journalism is actually what is killing journalism in Kenya today. People handpicked from the streets with no knowledge of journalistic principles nor etiquette, lacking in morality and decorum are made to grace screens and airwaves spewing mediocrity all over!!!

Just have a good look at the FM stations. All that they can glorify is sex, more sex and perversion. I long stopped listening to many of them coz only crap and twisted thinking can emanate from there.

Let us uphold journalism as a respected profession, train people to be what they are expected to be. I’d rue the day my son or daughter would tell me he/she wants to be a journalist-it is a career fast losing fame!!!!

As for the Presenter, I cannot say much coz sometimes I am lost on what they are discussing and how it relates to being a presenter, so I gave up torturing my mind.

Sungu.
Juba.

— On Wed, 2/11/09, Barbra Mkala wrote:

From: Barbra Mkala
Subject: Re: The presenter on KTN
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 3:21 AM

Barbra Mkala
Baraka FM
No 1 station at the coast.

On 2/11/09, Barbra Mkala wrote:

Hi Ndetei,
Actually im not a journalist and have no plans to be one. Thats my view of the show as a viewer of KTN. May be im the wrong target for you guys if thats your response to feedback. Anyway i have no reason to be bitter about a TV show when i can switch channels. . just peruse through face book and see comments discussed about that show. Im just one customer who was kind enough to share with you. Bye bye KTN.
Good day Ndetei.

On 2/11/09, mndetei@ . . . wrote:

Barbra,

You are a bitter journalist and I cannot blame you for that. Your accusations on the production quality are far fetched and I just hope you grow positively in your career and soon we hope to see you as a seasoned journalist who will be recognised in the broadcast industry.

Regards

Michael
Sent from my BlackBerry®
From: Barbra Mkala
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:31:45 +0300

Subject: Re: The presenter on KTN
Hi Ndeteimndetei@ . . .
I note your response to our complains in regard to the show. I think and as you can see from the other comments, first the show has failed to meet our expectations in terms of the quality we expect from KTN, we are measuring you by your own standards mind you, Secondly, i believe there could nhave been better recruits even if its talent you are nurturing, personally there is nobody i can vote for there, Thirdly there are too many breaks which affect the flow of the show, i mean compare with project fame surely….. i expect more from KTN compared to citizen…(sorry citizen). You say you will take them through a thorough training and thats fine, but for us we are watching a show and we dont know or care about your future plans , so we expect our needs as viewetrs to be met.I love KTN and I EXPECTED A better selection of contestants. They should all go home and you recruit others.
They say the most loyal customer is the one who complains, the others just switch channels and move on…..
Regards
Barbs

Frm mndetei@ . . .
Barbara,

I hope you are well. I have noted your feedback about the aforementioned show. Feeback is always an important component of the communication process. However you seem mis guided about the show concept, and I wish wish to clarify the following;
a] TV presentation is about talent, talent that is identified, nurtured and grown. The best journalists worldwide often have not studied journalism as an under graduate course but have the presence and authority to command audiences through their knowledge and intelligence
b] KTN as a market leader in identifying talent will put the winner in a rigourous training programme both locally and internationally with our partner stations and training schools
c] The ultimate presenter will undergo this training for a long period of time before gracing your screen
c] Brand development and innovativeness is an effort by every product developer to endear with their consumers

I hope this serves as a more guided approach in answering your queries. Feel free to log into the presenter website and assist us in getting the ultimate presenter.

Regards

Michael Ndetei
TV Production Manager
The Standard Group
Sent from my BlackBerry®

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: wambugu esther
Date: Feb 11, 2009 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: The presenter on KTN

i feel u guy,the advertisement was so cul but the real prog my gudness,it’s so boring,,,KTN stop letting Kenyans Down..abuse of the journalism profession
Esther

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:19 AM, agnes ouma wrote:

I agree with you Clement, journalism is sometimes about in-born talent that needs to be nurtured. I also question though the panel of judges if it properly fits the qualifications… probably there would be need to get people who have been in this industry longer, some of them learnt on-job.It takes much more for one to be able to qualify to be in that panel… dont you think?

— On Tue, 10/2/09, clement wrote:

From: clement
Subject: Re: The presenter on KTN
Date: Tuesday, 10 February, 2009, 1:33 PM
I think you are just bitter coz maybe you or people you know took very long to become a journalist and maybe even never made it.

Some of these traits are inborn and with proper propping (like what the show is doing) its possible to have refined presenters… I have watched several episodes and i can tell you some of the people(few) in that reality show are way better than the crop we currently have.

Cheers!

— On Tue, 2/10/09, Barbra Mkala wrote:
From: Barbra Mkala
Subject: The presenter on KTN
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:11 AM

Hi Wanabidii,
Been trying to watch this programme ‘The Presenter’ on KTN and i just cant shut up any more…may be they do not know…. i think its an abuse of journalism. First of all it is sub standard, in terms of production and quality, i mean people spend like 5 years in journalism in Daystar and KTN just wants to recruit presenters from a reality show. Whats happening with KTN, I cant even discuss their new signature…always authoritative, always…etc. That programme should be abolished and is no where near an apprentice progrmme. Lets protect our proffessions…can you imagine recruiting a doctor from an apprentice show on TV..

Barbra Mkala
Baraka FM
No 1 station at the coast.