Elijah,

Truth be told, your mails always elicit some hysteria in most of us. Can’t fault you as we are all entitled to our ideas.and this is a forum to air them. All Salem was trying to say was that Kenyans should not blindly complain that Libyans are taking over investments here with a hidden agenda. It is a free market and if our *leaders* have no logic to follow when selling off land, we need to fault them and not the investors. Let us make noise to Kimunya, Investment Secretary – Koimett,
the PS and other people who seal deals that are only beneficial to them due to the commissions they get.

I am for the Chineses *ONLY (and a loud only) making* roads, houses, bridges and maintaining the same. We should not buy their medicine, pesticide, rice, other foodstuffs, clothes, toys and plastic items since they make them with harmful chemicals. We all know about the returned fish, toys and medicine that comes from China!!!!

The workers who allow Indian bosses to torment them through insults especially in the shops should just *stand up to them and demand to be respected*. When you allow someone to insult you, you are to blame and no one else should come to your aid. It is time to ensure that working conditions in Kenya are bearable to the workers unlike in the case in most industries where smuggled people with no idea what English is as a language become Supervisors and Managers in what in reality should be called backroom sweat shops, the EPZs in Kenya.

The ills of capitalism are just too many and only the people who make our policies can be made to do the right thing!!!!

Regards,
Arnette

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:57:52 +0300
From: Arnette Wambaire
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From: isaac thiga

Hi,

Arnette, I think it is upto us to see what best suits the environment in which we live. All states have different challenges as well as different opportunities. There is no country in this world that
would say is 100% capitalist or any other system. Otherwise, why offer subsidies? Welfare? Just like democracy!

The best would be for us to learn the systems but then tweak them to suit our circumstances – how better can the systems suit us?

All said and done, a country, a company or even a home is as good as its leadership.

Have a great weekend

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Gichovi Mbogoh

Dear All, and especially Arnette:

Fair enough. Let’s revisit the “rumours” on the sale of Grand Regency to Lybians. This would be okay if it was part of an open deal. What of Safaricom IPO? FOR SFARICOM, WE ALL GOT LOST IN THE DEBATE ON THE ISSUE OF MOBITELEA. Why bother with Mobitelea if Mobitelea basically shares in the Vodafone’s 40%? What bothers me most and continues to perplex me is why we are looking for foreigners to purchase part of what our government is surrendering to the public! Is 40% that belongs to Vodafone (with part of it being owned by Mobitelea) not a big chunk of our Safaricom shares already in the hands of foreigners? The Government should not have opened what it is surrendering to the public to foreigners.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
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From: Arnette Wambaire

Jambo Wanakazi,

*Mbogoh:* For every rumuor, there is an iota of truth in it. Whoever put the whiff on Libyans fighting Asian and Chinese businessmen in the public forum was some politicians (those who did not get ministerial or assistant minister posts) who prompted journalists to uncover the dirt. From
experience, anything the government denies vehemently becomes true after they get tired of denying their underdealings!!! The Githongo tapes had to be aired on radio for some people to take flack…. Unfortunately we as Kenyans have misconstrued that since the Grand Regency was built and then bought by money siphoned off the Exchequer in the guise of importing gold from Western Kenya, it belongs to us. Today’s Nation has a narration on the case of receivership being between CBK and Pattni (i refuse to call him the name he added since he saw Jesus while his actions spell the complete opposite) over a non-paid loan of Ksh 2 Million.

Our problem in Kenya as Isaac pointed out clearly is our *rulers* (seeing that we do not have leaders). I keep asking myself what theory people learnt in Makerere, Dar University back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. Most of the rulers we have passed through these institutions at one time or another and they have lousy traits….

This reminds me… *Elijah*, what doctorate did the late Mwenje have??? And he never called himself Doctor!!!! I know he was a banker at ABN Amro back in the days when he mastered his skills in trade unionism aka Atwoli but doing a doctorate.. am sceptical…

Enjoy your evening and weekend!!!

Regards,

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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:53:22 +0300
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