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Dhaher mar konou joluo man kenya nia Sifa mimiyo juluo kamoroamora magintie gin kod achiel giherore to jomoko ematimore ni gin bize ahinya jomoko toimore ni gikia dholuo lakini gimach ni kawasengeyo ni in jaluo wawacho kodi dholuo ,ni ntiere jagomoro otimore ni ok owach dholuo to wan wawacho kode manyaka sani aa owacho dholuo ahinya , mago e tieng mwakao ne joma timore ni joma ongeyo,wan kod hera Lindi Tanzania koni wathin ahinya,to gima anyisie embaka nia ji ketho dholuo kiwinjo kaka ngato wacho dholuo inyalo yuak kiswahili oketho dhok.
Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
Published August 15th, 2009 in Uncategorized.
from Ernest OYUGI
dateFri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:15 AM
subject[wanabidii] Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
hide details Aug 14 (1 day ago) Reply
you guyz are not serious ………. every woman has a man albeit unofficial. We know of women who have at least 5 boyfriends around them including married women who keep at least a spare man for her feelings
nature knows how to balance itself … while some women dont want to get married at all there are those who are dying to win a male attention and it same for men too ….
from John Wanyancha
date Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:06 AM
subject [wanabidii] Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
hide details Aug 6 (9 days ago) Reply
I am glad that we are all reading from the same script. Have a nice day.
from angaluki@ . . .
date Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:16 PM
subject [wanabidii] Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
hide details Aug 5 (10 days ago) Reply
I think the above subject matter changed the thrust of my discussion. I was not comparing polygamy and monogamy. I was comparing polygamy and homosexuality, both of which are viewed as vises, if not outright evil, by different segments of society. I was seeking list members’ views on which is the lesser evil. I only mentioned monogamy within the context of a country like US that prohibits polygamy by law and in the process trigger what some refer to us “serial monogamy” (the practice of a person constantly divorcing and marrying another new partner to remain monogamous). I mentioned in one of my last postings on this subject that single life was becoming fashionable and acceptable to a lot of people these days.
from John Wanyancha
date Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:33 AM
subject [wanabidii] Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
I have not featured for a while, but I choose to weigh in on this one.
I see a lot of glorification on polygamy, about how the practice has been in existence throughout the historicity of man and about how the mosaic law (at least not the new testament that preaches Jesus Christ) and other religious scriptures have strongly backed the practice across generations and across cultures. I even see some rigorous attempts to justify the practice from the moral point of view (by AM & John Wais below) that it is better having a happy polygamous marriage institution than an unhappy monogamy with untold secrets of promiscuous conduct that characterize the rot of our society today.
YES, I hold a lot of respect for all conventional tests of truth – scientific (empiricism), religious, cultural, philosophical – but that has never meant surrendering or sending my own rational faculty to sleep when it comes to testing some of these fundamental beliefs and practices that we like to hold so dear. I stand for the view point that truth is subjective and that there is no one who monopolizes truth. Although not without some reservations, I strong subscribe to Hegel’s contention that “Reality is not fixed and static but changing and dynamic.” It is for this reason that I have tended to lean heavily on the functional test of truth by asking myself “will this work for me and my society?” This is how I would judge the debate between polygamy and monogamy?
Despite all the fun and fantasies that go with polygamy, research evidence has shown that multiple sexual partnerships is among the key drivers of HIV/AIDS in the world, Tanzania included (refer to the Tanzania HIV and Malaria Indicator Survey THMIS 2008). There is also scientific proof that persons exposed to sexual networks created by multiple and concurrent sexual relationships, are at a higher risk of contracting this deadly disease than one with a single sexual partner (see a presentation attached). Being a matter of life and death therefore my choice – what works for me – me would be monogamy and not the short lived pleasures of polygamy. To a critic this may sound so easy said than can be really done. Yes, I fully agree, but like other challenges raised and discussed extensively in this forum, this is another meaningful one.
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from Juma Mzuri
date Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:10 AM
subject[wanabidii] Re: Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
Let us now tackle the important question of polygamy. Polygamy is a very ancient practice found in many human societies. The Bible did not condemn polygamy. To the contrary, the Old Testament and Rabbinic writings frequently attest to the legality of polygamy. King Solomon is said to have had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3) Also, king David is said to have had many wives and concubines (2 Samuel 5:13). The Old Testament does have some injunctions on how to distribute the property of a man among his sons from different wives (Deut. 22:7). The only restriction on polygamy is a ban on taking a wife’s sister as a rival wife (Lev. 18:18). The Talmud advises a maximum of four wives. 51 European Jews continued to practice polygamy until the sixteenth century. Oriental Jews regularly practiced polygamy until they arrived in Israel where it is forbidden under civil law. However, under religious law which overrides civil law in such cases, it is permissible. 52
What about the New Testament? According to Father Eugene Hillman in his insightful book, Polygamy reconsidered, “Nowhere in the New Testament is there any explicit commandment that marriage should be monogamous or any explicit commandment forbidding polygamy.” 53 Moreover, Jesus has not spoken against polygamy though it was practiced by the Jews of his society. Father Hillman stresses the fact that the Church in Rome banned polygamy in order to conform to the Greco-Roman culture (which prescribed only one legal wife while tolerating concubinage and prostitution). He cited St. Augustine, “Now indeed in our time, and in keeping with Roman custom, it is no longer allowed to take another wife.” 54 African churches and African Christians often remind their European brothers that the Church’s ban on polygamy is a cultural tradition and not an authentic Christian injunction.
The Quran, too, allowed polygamy, but not without restrictions:
“If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with them, then only one” (4:3).
The Quran, contrary to the Bible, limited the maximum number of wives to four under the strict condition of treating the wives equally and justly. It should not be understood that the Quran is exhorting the believers to practice polygamy, or that polygamy is considered as an ideal. In other words, the Quran has “tolerated” or “allowed” polygamy, and no more, but why? Why is polygamy permissible ? The answer is simple: there are places and times in which there are compelling social and moral reasons for polygamy. As the above Quranic verse indicates, the issue of polygamy in Islam cannot be understood apart from community obligations towards orphans and widows. Islam as a universal religion suitable for all places and all times could not ignore these compelling obligations.
In most human societies, females outnumber males. In the U.S. there are, at least, eight million more women than men. In a country like Guinea there are 122 females for every 100 males. In Tanzania, there are 95.1 males per 100 females. 55 What should a society do towards such unbalanced sex ratios? There are various solutions, some might suggest celibacy, others would prefer female infanticide (which does happen in some societies in the world today !). Others may think the only outlet is that the society should tolerate all manners of sexual permissiveness: prostitution, sex out of wedlock, homosexuality, etc. For other societies , like most African societies today, the most honorable outlet is to allow polygamous marriage as a culturally accepted and socially respected institution. The point that is often misunderstood in the West is that women in other cultures do not necessarily look at polygamy as a sign of women’s degradation. For example, many young African brides , whether Christians or Muslims or otherwise, would prefer to marry a married man who has already proved himself to be a responsible husband. Many African wives urge their husbands to get a second wife so that they do not feel lonely. 56 A survey of over six thousand women, ranging in age from 15 to 59, conducted in the second largest city in Nigeria showed that 60 percent of these women would be pleased if their husbands took another wife. Only 23 percent expressed anger at the idea of sharing with another wife. Seventy-six percent of the women in a survey conducted in Kenya viewed polygamy positively. In a survey undertaken in rural Kenya, 25 out of 27 women considered polygamy to be better than monogamy. These women felt polygamy can be a happy and beneficial experience if the co-wives cooperate with each other. 57 Polygamy in most African societies is such a respectable institution that some Protestant churches are becoming more tolerant of it. A bishop of the Anglican Church in Kenya declared that, “Although monogamy may be ideal for the expression of love between husband and wife, the church should consider that in certain cultures polygyny is socially acceptable and that the belief that polygyny is contrary to Christianity is no longer tenable.” 58 After a careful study of African polygamy, Reverend David Gitari of the Anglican Church has concluded that polygamy, as ideally practiced, is more Christian than divorce and remarriage as far as the abandoned wives and children are concerned. 59 I personally know of some highly educated African wives who, despite having lived in the West for many years, do not have any objections against polygamy. One of them, who lives in the U.S., solemnly exhorts her husband to get a second wife to help her in raising the kids.
The problem of the unbalanced sex ratios becomes truly problematic at times of war. Native American Indian tribes used to suffer highly unbalanced sex ratios after wartime losses. Women in these tribes, who in fact enjoyed a fairly high status, accepted polygamy as the best protection against indulgence in indecent activities. European settlers, without offering any other alternative, condemned this Indian polygamy as ‘uncivilised’. 60 After the second world war, there were 7,300,000 more women than men in Germany (3.3 million of them were widows). There were 100 men aged 20 to 30 for every 167 women in that age group. 61 Many of these women needed a man not only as a companion but also as a provider for the household in a time of unprecedented misery and hardship. The soldiers of the victorious Allied Armies exploited these women’s vulnerability. Many young girls and widows had liaisons with members of the occupying forces. Many American and British soldiers paid for their pleasures in cigarettes, chocolate, and bread. Children were overjoyed at the gifts these strangers brought. A 10 year old boy on hearing of such gifts from other children wished from all his heart for an ‘Englishman’ for his mother so that she need not go hungry any longer. 62 We have to ask our own conscience at this point: What is more dignifying to a woman? An accepted and respected second wife as in the native Indians’ approach, or a virtual prostitute as in the ‘civilised’ Allies approach? In other words, what is more dignifying to a woman, the Quranic prescription or the theology based on the culture of the Roman Empire?
It is interesting to note that in an international youth conference held in Munich in 1948 the problem of the highly unbalanced sex ratio in Germany was discussed. When it became clear that no solution could be agreed upon, some participants suggested polygamy. The initial reaction of the gathering was a mixture of shock and disgust. However, after a careful study of the proposal, the participants agreed that it was the only possible solution. Consequently, polygamy was included among the conference final recommendations. 63
The world today possesses more weapons of mass destruction than ever before and the European churches might, sooner or later, be obliged to accept polygamy as the only way out. Father Hillman has thoughtfully recognized this fact, “It is quite conceivable that these genocidal techniques (nuclear, biological, chemical..) could produce so drastic an imbalance among the sexes that plural marriage would become a necessary means of survival….Then contrary to previous custom and law, an overriding natural and moral inclination might arise in favour of polygamy. In such a situation, theologians and church leaders would quickly produce weighty reasons and biblical texts to justify a new conception of marriage.” 64
To the present day, polygamy continues to be a viable solution to some of the social ills of modern societies. The communal obligations that the Quran mentions in association with the permission of polygamy are more visible at present in some Western societies than in Africa. For example, In the United States today, there is a severe gender crisis in the black community. One out of every twenty young black males may die before reaching the age of 21. For those between 20 and 35 years of age, homicide is the leading cause of death. 65 Besides, many young black males are unemployed, in jail, or on dope. 66 As a result, one in four black women, at age 40, has never married, as compared with one in ten white women. 67 Moreover, many young black females become single mothers before the age of 20 and find themselves in need of providers. The end result of these tragic circumstances is that an increasing number of black women are engaged in what is called ‘man-sharing’. 68 That is, many of these hapless single black women are involved in affairs with married men. The wives are often unaware of the fact that other women are ’sharing’ their husbands with them. Some observers of the crisis of man-sharing in the African American community strongly recommend consensual polygamy as a temporary answer to the shortage of black males until more comprehensive reforms in the American society at large are undertaken. 69 By consensual polygamy they mean a polygamy that is sanctioned by the community and to which all the parties involved have agreed, as opposed to the usually secret man-sharing which is detrimental both to the wife and to the community in general. The problem of man-sharing in the African American community was the topic of a panel discussion held at Temple University in Philadelphia on January 27, 1993. 70 Some of the speakers recommended polygamy as one potential remedy for the crisis. They also suggested that polygamy should not be banned by law, particularly in a society that tolerates prostitution and mistresses.
The comment of one woman from the audience that African Americans needed to learn from Africa where polygamy was responsibly practiced elicited enthusiastic applause.
Philip Kilbride, an American anthropologist of Roman Catholic heritage, in his provocative book, Plural marriage for our time, proposes polygamy as a solution to some of the ills of the American society at large. He argues that plural marriage may serve as a potential alternative for divorce in many cases in order to obviate the damaging impact of divorce on many children. He maintains that many divorces are caused by the rampant extramarital affairs in the American society. According to Kilbride, ending an extramarital affair in a polygamous marriage, rather than in a divorce, is better for the children, “Children would be better served if family augmentation rather than only separation and dissolution were seen as options.” Moreover, he suggests that other groups will also benefit from plural marriage such as: elderly women who face a chronic shortage of men and the African Americans who are involved in man-sharing. 71
In 1987, a poll conducted by the student newspaper at the university of California at Berkeley asked the students whether they agreed that men should be allowed by law to have more than one wife in response to a perceived shortage of male marriage candidates in California. Almost all of the students polled approved of the idea. One female student even stated that a polyganous marriage would fulfil her emotional and physical needs while giving her greater freedom than a monogamous union. 72 In fact, this same argument is also used by the few remaining fundamentalist Mormon women who still practice polygamy in the U.S. They believe that polygamy is an ideal way for a woman to have both a career and children since the wives help each other care for the children. 73
It has to be added that polygamy in Islam is a matter of mutual consent. No one can force a woman to marry a married man. Besides, the wife has the right to stipulate that her husband must not marry any other woman as a second wife. 74 The Bible, on the other hand, sometimes resorts to forcible polygamy. A childless widow must marry her husband’s brother, even if he is already married (see the “Plight of Widows” section),regardless of her consent (Genesis 38:8-10).
It should be noted that in many Muslim societies today the practice of polygamy is rare since the gap between the numbers of both sexes is not huge. One can, safely, say that the rate of polygamous marriages in the Muslim world is much less than the rate of extramarital affairs in the West. In other words, men in the Muslim world today are far more strictly monogamous than men in the Western world.
Billy Graham, the eminent Christian evangelist has recognized this fact: “Christianity cannot compromise on the question of polygamy. If present-day Christianity cannot do so, it is to its own detriment. Islam has permitted polygamy as a solution to social ills and has allowed a certain degree of latitude to human nature but only within the strictly defined framework of the law. Christian countries make a great show of monogamy, but actually they practice polygamy. No one is unaware of the part mistresses play in Western society. In this respect Islam is a fundamentally honest religion, and permits a Muslim to marry a second wife if he must, but strictly forbids all clandestine amatory associations in order to safeguard the moral probity of the community.” 75
It is of interest to note that many, non-Muslim as well as Muslim, countries in the world today have outlawed polygamy. Taking a second wife, even with the free consent of the first wife, is a violation of the law. On the other hand, cheating on the wife, without her knowledge or consent, is perfectly legitimate as far as the law is concerned! What is the legal wisdom behind such a contradiction? Is the law designed to reward deception and punish honesty? It is one of the unfathomable paradoxes of our modern ‘civilised’ world.
date Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:13 AM
subject[wanabidii] Polygamy is the SOLUTION!!!!
hide details Aug 5 (11 days ago) Reply
Since the prophet Abraham to Solomon all the way to Mohammad, polygamy was practise with GODs blessings. I can’t agree more with AM better a loving polygamy household than misserable monogamy household and the infedelities. As we all know there are more women in he world today than men . In America its self there are more than 13 Million women than men and we have more than 7millions men who are Homosexual and have nothing to do with the opposite sex. In Total we have 20,000000 women with out men to marry. What will be a solution ??? more infedelity or just produce more DILDO for the JOB, as we know DILDO cant give LOVE.
I was “lucky” to huck up with nyanam moro eboma ma Mombasa and I whole
heartedly loved this lady…She was in fact o inform me that she had a
boyfriend before we and they failed to agree fell a part having knwn him for
abt one year….She also promised me that true to her heart she loves me and
will not betray our love….She stays with her parents and in the same
neighbourhood with her former boyfriend..We have been together for almost a
year now and nothing wrong has been noticed in our relation and this made me
introduce her to my mum last month…
However, a strange behavior happened last week in our relation…The mother
to her former boyfriend fell sick and she was affected more than ever..She
could not even have time for me and was always assisting the sick lady as if
she was the doctor…I, based on my trust authorised her to do it but still
am disturbed if it could lead to some unforseen unfortunates..Please advice!!!
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From: Ochieng Kayuko
Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM
Subject: Does She really Love me
ayiego joka nyanam
Jokanyanam un gi weche ma mit ndi to wach ok cham. Chokreuru u invest e wche pur, lupo kendo yawuowi gi nyiwa ma onyadhore gi buge bende olok ka luo obed kama piny manyo e rieko. Luo omako chuny East afrika to jo kanyanam neno a nena daa, weche e ma ilungo mamit. Ai yawa! obed wacho gi timo wa aye uru e dhier.
U need to stop peddling these lies about women outnumbering men.
Apenji? How many women are of marriageable age. Fact: men die of leaving widows. If u split the data agewise, u will be suprised that there is only 1:1 ration of both sexes in a viable condition to couple.
This consolation some men have has been their detriment, unless you want to marry your grandmothers: smell the coffee.
From: Dher Goro
Date: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM
Subject: MBAKA: Will someone please manage Moi?
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE MANAGE MOI?
One of the most pathetic developments in Kenya today is an attempt by
Daniel arap Moi to become relevant in our national political life. But it
may be helpful to whatever positive there is of his legacy for his handlers
to remind the old bloke of the following;
1) He is not retired president but former president. He did not leave the
presidency on his own volition but was precluded by the Constitution at the
expiry of the mandated two-term tenure as required by the new laws that took
effect in 1992.
2) Moi had 24 years to transform Kenya into a progressive democratic state
but instead focused on an obscure dream called “Nyaoism” that was merely
a methodical assembly of favoured cronies/communities to ensure their
personal material prosperity. In their wake, they left a trail of disjointed
institutions and collapsed projects.
3) Moi still has very congested public schedules during which he dispenses
unsolicited advice on an array of issues, incoherent though his delivery is.
I’d imagine he’d said all he had in the 24 years of his tenure. The good
news is, no one responds, not even local grassroots leadership.
4) Could someone please advice the old man that this is the time to either
pursue broader issues with universal themes such as peace, the environment
through a structured organisation such his Moi Foundation or simply enjoy
retirement from the rigours of political life. He could even have some
someone help him write his memoirs.
Don’t blame Moi yawah! It is not very good manners blaming an old man who has simply seen a vacuum. Moi has seen the nation asleep while danger is lurking. You people should stand up to be counted in checking our government and ensure we demand for a new constitution, we people with no untainted past in political offices.
Our threat lies not in Moi but in active politicians with unbriddled ambitions but no vision like Isaac Samoei, Steve Kalonzo and ???? Uhuru.
Jokanyanam…..I am so glad to let you all know that you can tune in to radio lake Victoria via internet, the program line up is so exciting and there is one particular program every Monday…”duol jokanyanam” that tends to handle such topical issues like the one above…it is a cultural program that tends to view the Luo past cultural issues and how they affect us today as Luos…the issue of wife inheritance and polygamy has been discussed extensively…kindly log into http://www.osienala.org and get a feel of ‘duond Jokanyanam!’
From: Dher Goro
Date: Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:54 AM
Subject: MBAKA: IN SUPPORT OF THE SOCCER COACH
There are unfortunate misunderstandings surrounding the tenure of Mr
Antoine Hey, Kenya’s national soccer team coach. I have the following
contributions to make on the matter;
1) Let us be reminded that is was PM Raila Odinga, himself an ardent soccer
fan and supporter, who came to our rescue by negotiating the engagement of
Mr Hey when both the relevant Government Ministry and the national soccer
management body were neither able nor enterprising enough to fill that
2) For some inexplicable reasons, Mr Hey has not been accorded the
necessary support by either the Ministry or the soccer management body.
Instead, it seems he has been the target of Mr Odinga’s political
opponents but who dare not face the PM directly on those presumed issues of
3) It is such a short time to evaluate the performance of the coach. He
cannot be wholly responsible for our missing out on South Africa 2010 or
even the next continental Cup of Nations. Take of example the national team
of Argentina: They have the “best” footballer in the world as coach, an
array of the current world’s outstanding stars and facilities to boot yet
they struggled to make the slot for South Africa 2010! France is still
struggling! Many great teams (including England, the 1966 Winners!) have
missed qualification in the past! How about Kenya which hasn’t even built
a soccer stadium (Nyayo Stadium was built through harambee as athletics
complex while Kasarani is a multi-purpose complex) since independence!
4) Soccer is a team sport. The coach or head of the technical bench is at
liberty to make the choice of desire. No one player can be guaranteed
automatic selection without meeting stated criteria. Denis Oliech has in the
past shone as a striker. But that’s that. It should not be lost to soccer
fans that Oliech has also been problematic. Remember his exchanges with
former KFF boss Sambu? Is it no secret that Oliech wishes to attend training
sessions in his limousine? Is he not the most consistently outspoken player
on the management of national soccer team matters? Doesn’t he have a
column in a local daily newspaper to provide a running commentary of his
views? Finally, Oliech’s form is down – he’s reportedly only scored a
single goal in the past few months in the French league where he plays! Mr
Hey should be free to pick on other players that match his criteria and are
5) There are already resentments to reports that Mr Hey may have negotiated
a new contract with a top Egyptian club. Why? We have done little to welcome
the man and when he negotiates for his future then we are sulking! How
I’ve just been reading through all the scripts and came to one conclusion of you all.
You either belong to two religions i.e. Methodist or Lutherans.
Ochieng Kayuko (with the mombasa lady), Metho rani kose Luth orani?
joe ndolo de omiyo wa eyo machielo mopogore gi mowachono
Dholuo obed mangeny
It all depends with your defination of polygamy but I’ll ratherr define it as having more than one legally married sexual partner
Jothurwa useneno kaka CoE otiyo matek mondo Kenya obed kod constitution maber. Unneno bende kaka jomoko temo mondo okethi tijno maber.
En thuolo ma ng’ato ka ng’ato mondo koro oting’ duonde jogo ma ok dwar lokruok owe chandowa. Jogewa nyaka bed ni gi nyalo goyo kura mondo gi dhi gi unng tijno ma osebedo baber lwedo.
Akwayou ni ma mondo obed amal kendo alam marwa edweche mabiro.
Ng’ato oorne jo ma tiyo gi jakom machiegni kaka Miguna Miguna ni koro gi kung dhogi. mano ok mongi golo weche ma ka wa se fuambo to wa fuong’o ne gi.
Mondo mi walok pinywa obed kaka wadwaro ji duto mondo okaw kura ji oregister duto so that we can have the power to make the changes that we want .
If Rongo is to realize any meaningful development,then we the people must urgently address the leadership crisis that has engulfed us over the years. We’ve seen leadership oscillating between two prominent personalities – Hon Dalmas Otieno and the former MP Hon Ochilo Ayacko. These two politicians have dominated Rongo politics to an extent that no development initiative can amicably take place! They prefer politicking rather than fulfilling the electoral pledges they made to the people.Rongo is bigger than these individuals.
Therefore,we need shun them and vote in a new face,a fresh face! We need leadership that is Objective.Incorruptible and Youthful! Let’s stop the culture of recycling leaders because it’s detrimental to development.
Robert Otieno Ayako,UoN
the stories are nice
PROSTITUTION AND NEPOTISM/CORRUPTION AT KEMRI/CDC KISUMU
Well jokanyanam, i want to raise an issue that seem to perplex me as concerns social issues at the prestigious employer CDC Kisumu station. As an employee who is born again, i found it very hard to understand the kind of life that is going on in this institution.One, the employment process is based on nepotism and riddled with bribery for those who have money. The second part is that women are employed only on the basis of sex, nothing else. Number two, many families are being broken daily on the basis of sex for retaining a job-that is very senior bosses insist on having sex with married female employees in order to retain or get promotion at work
In view of this i witnessed a number of families break up because these women are coerced into sex relations with the bosses and a good number of them after being promoted or getting fat cash, decide to move out from the marital homes for complete freedom. As at now, a number of families have broken up thanks to the top senior officials at CDC Kisumu.
The worst part of these infidelities is that at CDC-Kisumu, HIV prevalent is 85% and open sex relations here is worsening the situation as many are getting infected by the day.Many men here have also abandoned their wives once they meet lady researchers from abroad and even fellow men researchers who are gay have also fallen into this trap
Several project heads are used in these unholy alliances with project funds used even twice a week-Wednesdays and Fridays for parties that have nothing to do with the project objectives.Ladies who are targets are forced to attend and are kept up to 2AM failure to which they are given memos for absconding duty. It is saddening for born again Christians working at the station to constantly bear with ugly scenes with everyone knowing exactly what is going on and yet CDC is expected to be a leading light in research about human life.Some senoir employees have even turned their offices into lodgings where they make love at will during weekends when some pretend to be doing extra work
Now jokanyanam, my question is, how can this vice be stopped? we have seen many husbands and wives come here to complain but nothing can be done given the fact that the vice is perpetuated by the same bosses they report to or worse many women have been sacked the moment the bosses sense they are in danger.
What can the ministry concerned do and who knows exactly how this thing can be stopped since we have prayed over it to no avail
Ochieng ja Gem Ramula
it is true, CDC-KIsumu is a den of sex pests. Prostitution is rampant, aids pandemic is highest here and now several people are suspended because of prostitution, swindling of funds and a lot more unethical things. It is true that many families are being broken daily because of our senior researchers who force people wives into sex for jobs. It is pathetic but since it only involves all the top bosses including the top most, nothing seems to be done about the complaints. It is true CDC-Kisumu is ROTTEN
Love or money, it shows how our society is rotten. Women be faithful and stop giving out your property for favour. Men lets be professional and respect our operational ethics.
I am new here but very encouraged by all that is discussed.
Jokanyanam, wawe uru ketho seche, wamak pur matek monde wa improve our economic power.
I have a plan but lack support.I own a tractor and initial 100 acre land.Can anyone propose any viable project??
arito duoko sani sani nikech aol gi dhier
If you are ready to settle down or know someone, I know just the man for you. Send me an e-mail to: firstname.lastname@example.org and I will connect you privately. This will be absolutely confidential.
Ogosigana nokuya kwarerenge ase abanto baito riria kare. Nao torigereretie ase chingaki echi chia bono. Especially in diaspora.
“It is not good that man should be alone.”
Elder Keen Nyamwange.
Amor ahinya kuom weche mag puonj kod mbekni ma mamit ma ayudo ka. Chakre sani koro abe adwa bedo jakanyo. Agoyo erokamano ahinya ne Migosi Peter Meyo Onyango ( chot Acholla) kuom siemo na kama jaluo romoe kendo twakie. Jowadwa kik waol gi punjruok!
Nyasaye oritu kendo ogwedhu duto!
Girl Child Education in Nyanza.
How many people can help find a solution to our young girls who are leaving school in primary level?
What is the reason and what contributing factors can we work on?
In one location in greater Siaya district, about 12 girls dropped out of primary school in 2009 with pregnancies, what is the course and remedy?
In southern Nyanza, and along the shores of the lake the same cases are published.
At the end of the day, boys fid a way to continue with schooling while girls are turned into mothers and you know what next.
Where did the rain start beating us?
To bende wanyalo yudo yo mar konyo nyithiwa manyir man e gweng mondo otiek somo?
Miyauru pachu ma ok wawacho ni en dhier, kata nok mar jopuonj; uparo nango???
MAN FAKES BLINDNESS AFTER CHICKEN DEFILEMENT ACCUSATION TO ESCAPE LYNCHING.
WRITES ERICK AEJA FROM URIRI DISTRICT.
Residents of Rapogi village were dumb founded when a middle aged man, Mr.Adujo Ja chula, was accused of sleeping with a hen that belongs to Mr. Waki who is a resident of the said Area.
The man who is said to be roaming within the village as a stranger from Rusinga Island arrived at Waki’s house pleading to be hosted as he never had somewhere to settle while still looking for a job.
The irate ‘good Samaritan’ said that he had left Adujo in the morning still sleeping to wait for him as he had gone to look for him any casual contract to enable him bring something to the table.
On his way back, he was surprised to only find a crowd that had thronged the compound to lynch the man since the act is a great sacrilege that can elicit much curse to the entire community. It was his wife who realized the incident after noticing the poor chicken lying in a pool of blood when she called neighbors to come and punished the a cussed.
However, the area village elder whose home is a stone’s throw intervened and instead he was frog matched to the chief’s camp for further investigation after he had pretended to be blind and told the curious on lookers that he thought it was a woman whom he had seduced earlier.
Instead his please fell on deaf years and he was cautioned not to derive a Satan’s name in an otherwise blissful existence.
WOMAN’S PROMISCUITY REVEALED BY STRANGE PHONE CALL.
Writes Erick Aeja from Uriri District.
Villagers who hail from Kabuoch Kobidha in Ndhiwa disrtrict that boarders Uriri district were entertained to a free drama when a woman in her 20s’ promiscuity was revealed by a phone call before succumbed to random kicks and blows from her husband.
The incident which took place recently dragged a large crowd after several alarms that pierced the chilly night .The man who was only identified as Jakabuoch had been tipped on several visits made by the lecher whenever he was a way.
It was whispered that the woman kept on sending text messages and making love calls in the absence of her husband. As if this was not enough, she could trick her hubby that such calls were meant for Merry Go Round and should not be subjected to any non participant.
Due to this, the woman could hide herself or go out to enjoy the sodomy words that ‘strengthened’ the illicit affair.
Her husband who was now losing patience hatched a deal with his brother that he was going to be away so that her wife could take care of the animals at home. On hearing this, the woman quickly alerted her ‘lover’ to call later in the evening since her husband had sent a message that he would be away.
When it was approaching 9pm the man secretly returned home while her wife was still busy in the kitchen when a strange phone call emerged forcing her husband to pretend that he was the woman. He heard everything that was cooking including how the fellow man had been hungry for bed affairs.
On returning from the kitchen, the woman pleaded after she noticed that the cat has been finally let out of the bag but the man went ahead to hunt the other love bird whom he seriously injured before he was taken to Homa –Bay Hospital.
The writer pens stories for The Weekly Citizen,
ERICK AEJA. (Pen name Taribo p.m.)
An pod ok aool mar kono u ni wecehe ma ilungu mamit ber ndi to ok cham. ji ochokre olos investments mag pidho jamni, pur, lupo kendo loso chiemo gi gigo mamoko manyalo wuok e nyak mg gigo. Skunde bende losi ma international e county ka county kendo ma national e district ka district. Dongruok koro bet a lwet jo piny ma ok ber e higni mabiro kapod wa biro tin’go duondwa ni sirkal ok kel dongruok.
Lit ka waneno ka siasa mar guvenari kod seneta osechako dino wang’wa kendo kata nyithido ma kia tong’ mag counties bende koro oyuch gi moko ni youth agenda. YOUTH AGENDA en dongruok e yor DAK GI KWE KOD RIWRUOK, SAVINGS kod INVESTMENTS. Ni ot ka ot kendo nga’tao ka ng’ato ma osebedo ja higni apar kod aboro nyalo nwang’o tich kendo bendo independent. Tije nwang’re kendo dongruok timore mana ka ji orito mwandu maber kendo jokanyono otimo investments.
I feel good reading all the comments above I did not know CDC is such a ROTTEN org! Now what next should we sit and watch NO! why cant we intervene tel them to pack and go!
The girl child education is a challenge sometimes i fail to understand why our young girls cant continue with their education in 1996 when i finished my O-level, in a sub-location where i come from we were 3 ladies with Form 4 cert just imagine. I now work with an NGO all a long I have been talking to the girls around this area to take their education with seriousness but its baring no fruits. I have realized one thing when I met girls many children still don’t know their rights, Parents have no time with their girls, poverty is a challenge and men use their money to lure the young girls into sex. I strongly believe that parents be targeted first and talked to and advised to create time for their children to get to know their children fully.
I will now be reading MBAKA mag Jaluo to get to know more.
NE JIDUTO MA ONDIKO DHOK MAWENDO E OBOKENI, WAKWAYOU NG’WONO, MA EN KAR NDIKO DHOLUO KENDE. KAUYIE!
for girl child Education we need tougher rules on sex predators for school going childrens just like our sister country Tanzania where u impregnate a school girl and you are locked 30 years
Oh Nyasaye atimo mos Kuom ndiko kod kisungu. Ok angeyo kata ong’uonna.
Chwo ma Joluo e ma kelo tabu nyanza, ginindo gi nyithindo mapod somo.
Kendo gichayo jok ma mon -mano rach kabisa.
Kendo chwo mar joluo wundo mond joluo nikech gilawore gi mond okuche kae to sama tabu oneno to giringo giduogo ne mond joluo.
Mfano wuod Raila, Orengo.Mano iluongo ni doube standards!
Bang’ elections chwo joluo odhigoyo jok mokendo okuche,to okgipenjo Raila wach woude kato Orengo wach chiege.
Amosou jojaramogi, ni oyawore uru! En mor maduong ahinya kuom yudo ‘site’ mar joluo wetena goloe pachgi. Esechegi an japuonjore ei piny mar Amerika, e i university moro ei chicagoo kae. Gima osedhiera ni ok aseyudo kata man romo gi jaluo achiel ei chicago. ma osebedo wach matek ahinya nikech okanyal kata mana dhumo dholuo ama kata pimo wach gi jaluo wadwa. Ka nitiere jadhoot moro ma achiel kuomu nyalo ng’eyo ni odak e town mar chicago to mondo omi unyisae. Ang’eyo ni wan joluo waherore to kaanyalo yudo anyuola moro a mora to anyalo winjoe maber. Erouru kamano kuom winja. Email mara: email@example.com.
Mp makarachuonyo wadwaro mondo onyiswa gima osetimo kod kwan mar aguch CDF.
1. Chirni manitie ei Karachunyo, North kod South onge chope.
2. Onyiw ndinga manyalo kunyo nwa yewni for water harvest. Yewni otho mangeny e North kata mantiere dala gi.
3. UP grade Wagwe Dispensary obed hospital maduong kod kendu sub district obed district hospital.
from: Odhiambo ka Ngonga
subject: Medo Paro
Aneno ka wadhi maber kendo tich ma use tiyo embuyini jokanyanam pako. To kata kamano a aparo niber ka wamedo kod sigad luo; kaka ne luo ochakre kendo kama ne giwuokee.Kawatimo kamano to oganda mangeny majokanyanam kata mana onjelo mokalo embuyini biro medo ngeyo matutut chakruok mar Luo.
Mar ariyo,ka wandiko e mbuyi mar jaluo dot com, a akwayo ni mondo wandik andika dholuo maliw maonge dho odiero mondo kata mana nyithindwa mangeny molal eboma apar chien kendo ging’e dhogi maok ogweny kod dhok moro.
Mano mana pacha.
amosou jokanyanam amor ahinya romo koduu embui ni to akwayo ni unyiswa histori mar jaluo kama noaye nyaka koro sani mae bo medowa mor wan jomodak mabor gi dala ngeyo kendo neno ni wanyalo romo kendo wuoya ‘via’ obokeni. to ma be biro medo puonjo wa dhowa ni. erouru kamano.
Nyasaye ogwedhuuu uduto
i want to be a member of this program what can i do?
Omosou Joka Nyanam! Akwayou ni watang’uru kendo walos gi oganda moko gi rieko matut mondo waketgi machiegni kodwa. Ka ok watang’ kendo waloso ka wakwedo jomoko mapenjo pachwa to giniringwa kendo wanadong’ ka wawacho ni jomwa okwedowa ka kare wan to ema wariembogi gi weche makwiny. E wach machwok aluwoni mondo wabeduru jo kisera eyo matut ma kata ok wadwar ng’ato to ok oyang mapiyopiyo maling’ling maniechunywa.
For those who want to see the Luo link to Misri (Egypt), here you are:
I support Sir Charles Were 100% on his facebook link http://www.facebook.com/ongondo.were post:
Education is universally recognized as one of the most fundamental building blocks for human development and poverty reduction. Under the auspices of Were Foundation, I am pleased to inform my fellow constituents that Were Foundation has sponsored KCPE Mock exams for the entire Kasipul. I therefore wish KCPE candidates all the best in their preparations. I urge parents/guardian and community members to give the candidates necessary support. They are the heirs of tomorrow.
God Bless you and tim mana kinda, an bang’i.
ayiego joluo med uru puonjo ji timbe joluo
please the luos let our young children not forget your teachings
Awinjo ni josuba joter makata ni narobi, Jakarateng’ to nyaka ng’iew ndiga eka chunye mor . be en adier?
Ochieng Kayuko, we ushambaa. Itarori nadi. In okiero mamani.? What if was your mum. ? Your woman has the right to do as she pleases. Your attitude emomiyo mond luo odhier to bedo abused in relationships.
An Awuor Oriadha if you want to reach me my email address in firstname.lastname@example.org. God bless you
To kawan Joluo, ang’o ma monowa wacho dholuo kata obedo ni wan loka waduto?
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