Lee Makwiny
date Nov 9, 2009 4:34 AM
subject Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
“Our people have been oppressed because we are never together,” he said amid applause by the congregation. The deputy PM attributed the killing of many people from the region during the post-election mayhem to division among political leaders in the province. “The majority of those who lost their lives were our people. They were killed because we were split.” source: http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/
1064/683674/-/xt47b9z/-/index.html
Question: Who has oppressed you Mr. Kenyatta. You father stole the land and thats why “your” people live in fear in Rift Valley. give it back.
Mr. Kenyatta if you continue with those lines of campaigns, then be assured that Kenyans will rise against you. Let you be reminded that Kenya is bigger than central alone. You will get 100% votes in central, but you will be locked out. You have started again alienated PNU from the rest of Kenya. Kombo that made you believe you have support in western has made U-turn. Nyachae is gone, Mwakwere is going home. You will remain with Githae and some central MPs. I wish you hired Peter Keneth as your political advisor or better, support him, Kenyans are ready for him anytime, not you silly tribalist.
symo kahari
date Nov 9, 2009 4:53 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
hey Lee,
i think Uhuru is not alone in the race. People were slaughted in Naivasha, Kibera, Kariobangi, Mathare, Mumias na hao wote walikuwa kabila bali bali not kikuyus alone. Reffer to isues tactifully and avoid one line of thinking, kikuyus also think, they dont follow leaders foolishly. ” my people”
ii nikii weeee!!!!!!
BENSON MAISORI
date Nov 9, 2009 6:50 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
that is interesting. we hear you makwiny. but please remove the last four words. ha haaaa!
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Murithi Magiri
date Nov 9, 2009 5:21 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
This is utter utter rubbish. How can you call an Honourable MP silly? Would you like to be called silly some day as well? Please don’t use abusive language in this forum.
otieno sungu
date Nov 9, 2009 5:37 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
It is strange Lee that a man whose family has rendered almost a whole community Landless is telling them they are oppressed!!!
If Kikuyus listen to this kind of crap from Uhuru, they will be setting themselves up against other communities where they were “resettled” after Kenyatta stole virtually all their land.
It is time people of Central called Uhuru Kenyatta bluff and told him in his face that they need their land back, no community will sacrifice their land for Kikuyus when one family owns a whole stolen Province!!!!This isad affair that must end,and it is sick to see swarthes of land lying fallow and yet squatters abound all over the country only for Uhuru to buy the same land using money meant for IDPs to settle “landless people” who became landless in the first place because of the thieving tendencies of his father which he has refused to redeem himself from.
Sungu.
Muita Wangoko
date Nov 9, 2009 5:57 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
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Jonah Ogaro
date Nov 9, 2009 7:51 AM
subject RE: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
Uhuru is definittely not the right material for H.E. of the Republic of Kenya. Let him first try to clear his name from the KNHRC report on PEV in Naivasha.
Boniface Ngari
date Nov 9, 2009 7:53 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
Mr.Makwiny
You cannot talk like you are presenting the kenyans’ opinion when you’re abusing kenyans’ leader. Can you delete your last sentence and we will be able to get you.
Karish
nganga titus
date Nov 9, 2009 8:03 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
I do not share Makwini’s political analysis, neither do i support kenyatta’s sentiments wholly but perhaps i could have given Makwini a closer ear had he used a language next to soberness. I also don’t see the decency in his tongue as that of Peter Kenneth who he praises and therefore his praises lack genuinenness. (I stand to be corrected without adding tags of my opinion)
Lee Makwiny
date Nov 9, 2009 8:12 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
Magiri,
Uhuru’s family has caused pain and suffering to innocent people. People whose only mistake is that the grandfathers land were taken by Uhuru father. I am pained when i hear Uhuru (for president) make such silly statement. I will not withdraw the word silly in the context i used it. You can ask the moderator to ban me!!!!
symo kahari
date Nov 9, 2009 8:20 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
I repeat again here that if our learned profesionals in diffrent fields can argue this way and get seconders and followers, then God forbid that un-informed Kenyans in the diaspora will not react to the same sentiments by our politicians come 2012. Desisting from such sentiments/thinking will save our next generation from pre/post election violence in 2012 and subsequent elections.
nganga titus
date Nov 9, 2009 8:20 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
I do not share Makwini’s political analysis, neither do i support kenyatta’s sentiments wholly but perhaps i could have given Makwini a closer ear had he used a language next to soberness. I also don’t see the decency in his tongue as that of Peter Kenneth who he praises and therefore his praises lack genuinenness. (I stand to be corrected without adding tags of my opinion)
otieno sungu
date Nov 9, 2009 8:27 AM
subject Re: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
Nganga Tito,
I guess it is in order to ask Kikuyus to ask Uhuru to return their stolen land that has made them squatters before asking Rift Valley to share land, honestly, why can’t the people of Central ask this one family to give back land that Mzee Kenyatta stole that is part of the historical injustices that has continued to bedevil this country to date??
Sungu
Jackson Mwalulu
date Nov 9, 2009 8:29 AM
subject RE: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
One can almost certainly tell what a contributor on this uhuru for president business by the way their names sound. Shame on you “alternative leaders” and God have mercy on Kenya!
Aggrey Mmbaya
date Nov 9, 2009 8:49 AM
subject RE: Uhuru Kenyatta For President:
Sungu
Why kill a mosquito with a shot gun? They have heard you. Please guys let us stop this topic until just before the elections of 2012.
Bw. Sungu,
The habit of always hiding heads in the sand and pretending that we are not being seen is deeply rooted; that is why sideshows and shadow boxing is the order of the day; the issues in Kenya are not being confronted head on – in the hope that they will mysteriously disappear. The land issue does not require a genius to sort out.
Best regards
Thomas
UHURU KENYATTA FOR PRESIDENT
Some are addressed to the wrong person, Makwini and not Makwiny! In view of this he does not have to reply to you since you are not addressing him.
Uhuru Kenyatta promised us prior to the 2007 elections that he was definitely going to be in the next government. So his prophesy came true. He already knew well in advance that Mt Kenya Mafia was going to rig the elections.
In like manner now he knows quite well that the same Mafiosos are going to escort him to the state house come 2010 as they wade through the sea of blood of innocent God’s people. Good luck to him!
But I wonder! Does this man ever sometime stop to think about what is treasonable as far as the law is concerned?
He is successfully removing GEMA farther and farther from the rest of Kenya.
Talking about P.Kenneth! Have we ever heard that in Kenya there are people who have denied they are Luo or being the children of the District Commissioner, Arina DC ja Uyoma? Apparently notable disclaimers who deny their parentage can be president of Kenya!
DR ODIDA OKUTHE
I hope your guess is as good as mine. What we need is focus and political starightforwardness not haphazardness in which we raid both stolen property and property gained through hard work (the latter can only be termed as jelousy). The former can only be done lawfully in which a constitution stipulates that no one is allowed to own land beyond some acrage. And thatway, land would be reclaimed whether you are Kenyatta or Odhiambo. Secondly, the fact is as a Kenyan you can settle and own propetry anywhere in Kenya. A Luo in Coast is not by mistake neither a Somali in Kisii, Kikuyu in Rift Valley or Luhya in KambaLand. What we should encourage is intermarriage – And not these tags of you are this and i am that (I lack words for that and would avoid the imprintables – Perhaps let us spare that for Makwiny)
Uhuru cannot be a good president of Kenya, he is where he is courtesy of corruption, and he should be rejected by all who has the interest of Kenya at heart. Whoever came up with this post must be out of his mind. Central province can vote for him, but they will be alone, so wake up people!!!
Engineer,
And when you mention it and bare it painfully nakedly, apologists run around branding you tribalist, non progressive blah blah blah.
I thought it is the progressives who should be on the forefront asking all who have stolen (especially regarding the explosive land issues that has cost many Kenyans lives) to return such lands so that besides having equity in society, we also solve historical injustice?
It is not fair to ask people in Rift Valley to “give room” to the disposed historically or hiving much needed forest to resettle them when a known land grabber is selling the same land with abandon to government. What is IMPUNITY then?
Sungu
Mmbaya,
Now is when temparatures allow us to discuss it and find solutions, including correcting historical injustices;2012 we will not have time to reason, it will be another round of 2007!!!
Let us learn not to shy away from our problems because they will not go away that way. We must, like we do with fleas, remove them “painfully” but eventually the infested toe will have some reprieve.
As someone said, what you are suggesting is escapism and burrying heads in the sand, we have done that pretty much for the last 46 years and the problem does not seem to go away.
It must be tackled and very courageously.
Courage,
Sungu
I think it all boils down to one thing: Being in denial.
Kikuyus are in denial. That’s it. They are at cross-roads, if i may add. Uhuru Kenyatta is tempting fate by misleading the Kikuyu community. The injustices that we want resolved are the ones that were committed by Kenyatta, and Moi.
But with regard to IDPs, for chrissake let Kenyatta donate half of the land he owns to resettle IDPs.
Let me also add, that the Kyuk’s should assert their free will of thought with regard to Kenyan Politics. Always saying that you have been disenfrachised doesnt help. As Kenyan people, we aren’t fighting kyuks, we are fighting a regime. Kibaki belongs to that regime. So does Amos wako, Evans Gicheru and Aaron Ringera.
But freedom is coming……
So if Uhuru cannot be the HE of kenya, who can? I concur with anyone who is of this notion but I will add that in the current crop of leaders including their children none is fit to lead the country.
All are corrupt and they breath out corruption. We need fresh leaders but the big problem is that these leaders are languishing in poverty and they cannot afford cash to bribe to parliament. So Kenya will always remain as it is.
God can then intervene with a calamity and we can then rebuild the Parliament chambers. With the current leaders Mungiki will continue to terrorize Kenyans at will. Uhuru knows that better.
So now can he still be the President? NO NO NO NO!
Augustine
Augustine,
Where I agree with you is that the current crop are all the same, and that is why when we are saying what they have stolen, be it oil, maize,whole Provinces,etc, no Kenyan in his right mind should be defending them.
We must ask of this corrupt leaders, no, leeches to return what their fathers stole that they enjoy today.
It is very silly that because of these thefts for which they are rich, some Kenyans worship them, defend them, die for them and see them as heroes.
A thief, whether of oil, maize, land or whatever in leadership will never be my hero.
And yes Agustine, we need new faces, new crop, clean, non corrupt leaders and we shall get them.
Just watch this space.
Sungu
Kikiyu community must look critically at its leadership in retrospect to the struggle for independence and the subsequent acts of selfish grabbiosis thereafter.
The kikuyus must reconcile with their retributions at the hands of the Kikuyu elite who owns ill gotten chunks of land at the expense of violence trodden kikuyus in the diaspora. The maumau fought for land and when they won,Kenyattas took it all. Uhuru must first showsincerity by letting go of what they stole. Take note that amongst the 42 kenyan communities,Kikuyus have suffered most at the hands of its leaders. Kenyatta stole the land and recently Kibaki let you be slaughtered and your property destroyed.
IMO
Uhuru should just return the land his father stole if he wants to be elected President of Kenyas, otherwise no one will ever trust him with the ship of the republic.
He may, though get votes from Kikuyus who are so tribalistic to see that the kenyatta family shortchanged even them.
Courage,
Maurice
I support Hon. Mwalulu, shame on you all! Must all young Luos oppose Uhuru for President and Must all young Kikuyus support Uhuru for President?
What difference do you make from Raila who must appoint a Onyango for media spokesman and Kibaki who must appoint a Kibira for PPS chief…Kibaki appoints Nyeri man for High Commissioner for Britain as Raila appoints a sister from Bondo for Envoy in the USA.
What difference does it make just like when Raila must appoint his Cousin from Luoland as Chief Whip of ODM while Kibaki appoints his brother Thuo from Kikuyuland as Chief Whip PNU…do they see? Do they care?
But all of you young tribalists are no different…there is noone different among you? How come you only have facts against those of opposit tribesmen and no facts atall for your tribesmen! SHAME ON YOU YOUNG TRIBALISTS!
YOU ARE WORST!
Sande
What do you mean “Uninformed Kenyans in diaspora”? Is this an insinuation to undermine our opinions?
Courage,
Maurice
Lee Makwiny (is this to mean “an angry axe?),
I associate myself with your sentiments. This Uhuru character is either silly or corrupt to the core. Think 3 incidents:
(1) Nominating councillors contrary to political party representations among elected councillors;
(2) The mathematical error(typo) in the last budget;
(3) Now the Passat controversy;
(4) Not to mention the rumours about sponsoring the Mungiki during the PEV.
A Canadian Prime Minister, the Hon. John Turner once said;
Once may be an accident, twice, may be a coincident but three times, that is corruption, that is corruption.
I believe Uhuru is corrupt. Kenyans will never elect him President. Mark my words.
Courage,
Maurice
Murithi,
I am sorry to bust your bubble but Uhuru is not honorable in the literal sene of the word. He is only honorable by virtue of being an MP, a mere title.
His deeds in the last 2 years tell us that he is not honorable at all. I wouldn’t call him silly though.He is very intelligent but his intelligence is used for partisanship and harksterism.
Courage,
Maurice
I would like like to remind Ndugu Jacson Mwalulu that this debate on Uhuru for President is not all about how the name sounds. I don’t have to be a Kikuyu to support Uhuru. There are other good Kikuyu’s people like Njeri Kabeberi, Maina Kiai etc. And let me remind you that not all people with names that begin with O come from that community you have in mind.
Please learn not to tribalize issues. Instead let us be issue oriented.
I think anybody regardless of who, tribe etc , going around spreading tribal propaganda should be labeled silly .ask the Talibans, hutus, tutsi, Luo, kale, kikuyu…, i think what we need in kenya is a system where schools universities , collages must teach one common language from the region they are based and the cultural values ,coz i believe this will reduce fear and hate among tribes and young pple’. why should u for example study in maseno,moi,jkucat for 4-6yrs and live the place without being able to communicate, yet when u go to , spain, germany ,russia ….. for three to two yrs you go back already speaking and understanding mst of their values. even agwash can speak german which makes it easier for him to bond with them.Tom Mboya cld also speak, kamba,luo,kiuk and so on which made him a threat to other leaders. so lets do what is positive for our kids kids ,Kenya and stop selfish tribalism which is just meant to isolate
Magwiri and Makwiny,
I stand to be corrected if the geographical birthplace of Magwiri is MT. KENYA and that of Makwiny is the lake.
There is nothing rubbish about a Kenyan analyzing JOMO KENYATTA`S contribution to the state we are in neither is there anything silly about UHURU lamenting that his people have been oppressed.
The crowd UHURU was talking to have been oppressed for a very long time by UHURU`S old man. He ensured that most of the land belonging to these people were grabbed by him and his cronies. The result is that the grand fathers of these people were relocated to other people`s land in Rift Valley. Hence Historical Injustices the people of Rift Valley have been talking about.
This country will only move out of its problems if we as Kenyans are prepared to face the truth head on! There is no denying that both MOI`S government and KENYATTA`S did us in. How to get out of it is the big question.
Calling each other names will not just wash!
OKINDA JT
Let us have debates based on facts. Not emotions and affiliations.
Please read the Business Daily (Yesterday 9th and today 10th), theres a serious report about the origin of the land issues in Kenya. The report is based on de-classified documents from the Kenyatta era after the 30 year classified documents period elapsed.
Part of the report is published in the Daily Nation Today.
You will all understand the perpetrators of all the land issues stemmed from all the corners of this republic AND THEY WERE THE POLITICAL CLASS AND SENIOR CIVIL SERVANTS who still lead today and are OBSESSED with protecting what they grabbed!
I was shocked that Kenyatta wanted to settle displaced Kikuyus in Tanzania!! And Mwalimu Nyerere was willing to accept them!!
Go on and read for yourself.
But they understand Kenyans too well!! I give it to them.
They feel nothing and never will. So the conspiracy continues, they are perched up there enjoying good times in private members clubs (you cant reach them) and joint ownerships in leading companies and watch bemusedly while you mwananchi wa kawaida bitterly argues about how you are going to help them stay in power!!
Phew!! Kweli tumefika.
Davis
NB: When you and I get to parliament we run into tight road blocks of people willing to eliminate you when you try to tip the balance. Choose between your life and doing your thing and getting out. Thats why new members of parliament become maembe!
Jaramogi Odinga and Kaggia, had warned Kenyatta that his land grabbing habits in RV will one day set this country aflame in future. their prophesy seem to be correct.
Whatever Kenyatta did in RV has been narrated to and past on to the young Kales by their Fathers who were earlier briefed on by their grandfathers.
If this outstanding issues and bitterness are not resolved prior to 2012 then we are sitting on a time Bomb.
Uhuru, should begin by sorting out the messes his father created or he’ll have a plate full of issues before he embarks on his 2012 bid. He should be a key player in the TJRC.
Can Kenyans have a President from elsewhere except Central and RV for a break?
Uniformed Kenyans are people with less understanding than you have. We didnt say we will vote Uhuru 4 presidency but the sentiments that we will listen and act as he tells us we have our independent minds.
Why is it that central province issues are just taken with such a magnitude? Do people in Nyanza sing to the tune of one family and every one who differs with them is deemed an outcast?? Is that not brainwashing????????
Sande,
If you have been in this blog long enough, you must have read a raging debate about Luo Leadership, when some supported the Luo Leaders and others from the same region opposed their poor leadership.Then, together with my good friend Odhiambo Oketch, we were “enemies” of the Luo for questioning Luo Leadership that has led to poverty in Luoland.
You must have also read some from Raila’s community questioning his involvement with maize scandal, while others supported him.
You must have also seen some Kikuyu’s questioning Uhuru’s breaking of the law while others supporting it.
The bottom line is, everyone will hold his sentiments, and these discussions will go on “shame on us” notwithstanding.
Also, realize that not every Ogaro is a Luo, Ogaro may be a Kisii, but because you chose to see tribes, that is what you see.You might also be shocked to find out that Maina could be a Luo as well(it is a common name in many communities)!! That irrespective, we cannot fail to see mistakes of leaders because we will be branded tribalists if they are not from our tribes, we must also see sense when they do right.
If you were in this forum long enough, you must have seen the unity in supporting Uhuru when he announced during budget speech this measure of curbing govt spending on fuel guzzlers. I remember one Robert Alai reporting as the budget was being read ‘UHURU ROCKS!!!! I was following the budget on TV and commented about The Son of Jomo’s geneius with the budget.Then, we were not Kikuyus, we were still Luos but we saw sense in what he was saying.
But again, I cannot be gagged from criticizing Uhuru’s wrongdoing because I am a Luo, and a Kikuyu cannot be gagged from supporting Uhuru’s good act when he does one just because he is a Kikuyu and vice versa. This is a democratic right.Now that Uhuru has broken law even as he implements this measure, we must sat so.
What we must guard against is blind loyalty, and tribal prisms. I once attacked Raila on a raft of issues on this forum and some Luos nearly killed me on private email, why I was “spoiling Raila’s chances’ .
I told them we must be very genuine with ourselves to see each leader for his worth, not his associations.
But trying to bury our collective heads in the sand so that we are not called “TRIBALISTS” when we condemn rogue leaders because they come from another tribe will just make us hypocrites.
If today Raila is not doing what he promised to do. let us remind him, and criticize him and condemn him. The same way with Kibaki. If Kalonzo tries a tribal alliance, let us say that is a sorry and desperate tactic that Kenyans have found out only leads to more division.
Let us remain proactive because our tribes will not go away, they are here to stay. Our poor leaders are also here with us, but that we can change.
It is easy and very fashionable to shout; “TRIBALISTS” while individually you are not pointing out the way to go.
Sungu.
Juba-Southern Sudan
Hey people,
can we stop joining the tribal hate clique and debate more positively and soberly
Nancy Andwati
Yes, the land issue does not require a genius, but it does require a wise man and a courageous man, and also a clean man, one who is not a beneficiary of the crooked system. That is hard to find among our current crop of politicians.
The Kikuyu people have suffered largely due to the injustices committed against them first by the white man, then by their own kin, principally Jomo Kenyatta, Mbiyu Koinange and several others. I have reliably learnt that JM Kariuki’s death had to d with his opposition to the settlement of the Kikuyu in the rift valley while some families in Kikuyuland owned hundreds of thousands of acres of land.
It will be extremely difficult to solve the land riddle without addressing such issues practically.The difficult part though is that most of the land in Central province has been heavily subdivided and changed hands severally. May be they should be forced to contribute to a kitty to purchase land for the landless squatters and IDPs. That should apply to all others around the country who received land illegally.
I do not support Uhuru’s sentiments, neither do i support those saying that Kenyatta ‘stole’ land coz non of them will give an evidence if called to do so….
Moi has thousands of acres across the country, Raira too, Kibaki and anybody else with some power in Kenya unless the few DUMP ones…
If i become the president today, I tell you people that i will have 10,000 acres in the next five years…people!!!
Luos don’t have leaders ALL we have are puppets!!!…….it is no wonder we are still where we were b4 UHURU……yet other regions and moving ahead and enjoying the fruits of our toil……..
They even own land in Trans nzoia
Nancy Andwati
The truth is that this Kenyatta family have held kenyans at Ransom.
How come they own so much land in Taita, Nairobi and central.
Do you want to tell me they got the land genuinely… yaani they worked for it till they bought??!
I dont think so!!!…but i know one thing that shall work.
History repeats itself. The Tsar of Russia who was deposed in the Bolshevik revolution…..remember?? They killed ALL their family plus kins, relatives and in laws to ensure their was no empathy, inquest or referral. They failed to read the mood and chose to listen to the bootlickers who surrounded them.
So my question is this…. considering that the stretch in celebration of the Bolshevik revolution draws nigh… (1912-1917) and with all the hype about 2012….and considering that history has always repeated itself…. dont you wanna tell me that every oppressors in avery ridge and region of Kenya stand to be defeated VERY soon? Thats why am no longer bitter….coz the day of the jackal is near!!!! This is what you shall caLL…a NEW WORLD ORDER!!!
Sungu,
I can see why you are singular by singling out issues that you and Okech
had resolved… There is no poverty in Nyanza chief..
Two, at the moment we are busy trying to take stock of own self and see how
Kenyan can move forward without unnecessary argument and debates on who is
next in the presidential election coming 2012.
Juba where you are, voters registration in on going and our fellow Sudanese
does not even know who the next MP or governor or President is.. in fact
issue of who are the candidates does not preoccupy their mind.. so relax
and work hard for better Kenya.
The moment you do a statements and start mentioning tribes and tribal
word.. then you are also tribal in your thinking, please try to tailor your
minds in words on the print matters outside tribe then you will succeed.
Asante
RD Grafix,
Your email cannot go without a proportionate response. It stinks of shallowness. It is a shameless email. It fails to address the scope of the land issue and gives a solution that suggests you are reacting and not thinking as we expect YPs to do.
Are you suggesting that since land was stolen by our leaders, we should not do anything about it? And why are you begining with RAIRA? You have sold yourself out my friend. You think this is an attack on Kibaki and Kikuyus, yet we know the land problems date back to Kenyattas era.
Anyway, what is amazing is the fact that you say if you became a president, you would own 10,000 acres in 5 years. Jesus!! You come out as a corrupt fellow, and your thoughts only pass for a commoner, a pedestrian, void of intellect. But what is worrying is that you are a YP. You have tainted this progressive debate my friend.
Back off….
Mumia
Oyugi,
Kindly elaborate further
Major seth
Ernest
You are a leader in your own right and change starts with you as an individual.
Everyone has to show leadership. The problem with middle class is they refuse to show leadership and expect miracles to come from heaven.
There are people who are born in wealth and eat it all and there are others who are born in poverty and they make it in life.
The otherday I was at home and met a guy who has created wealth and jobs by just using land to grow produce which are relevant to the area namely tomatoes, kale, etc.
So do not expect someone to come from nowhere and lead you.
Lead yourself and they will call you a leader.
I do not waste my time discussing Uhuru, Railas, Rutos, Karuas,
Saitotis, Kalonzos, Mudavadis, Peter Kenneths, Kibakis, Sirmas, and
all these high priest of the status quo. I waste my precious time
otganising how to get new leadership and ensure I can hold it to
account. I do not want to be caught up in the threatre in town where
these high priests are the stars only to find that in 2012 I will have
no options but vote one of them. I chose to empower my self to find
better choices to choose from
My 2 cents
you are not mentioning Mombasa, Lamu, rift valley, Nakuru, Samburu etc, etc
They actually own land in every province, and perhaps if one went deeper to investigate, i wont be surprised to find their interests in every district.
Their business cut across all economy sectors, dairy, tea, coffee, tourism, banking, supermarkets, construction, real estate, etc etc, etc etc etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, endlesss
Just read today’s newspaper about the buying of land from the settlers who did it and who gained. Some might say that our grand parents walisleki but still this was injustice and impunity which should all be addressed.
Can we select/elect a prospective president from the forum. Voting is open till 30th Nov. 2009. You are allowed to vote for your tribesman.