From: Samo Kiwa
Leadership is a privileged position to not only serve the people by among other things as a role model showing the people how to do positive things. That is the reason despite the fact that all of us have weaknesses, we remain very critical on those who hold leadership positions, we watch every step a leader makes and hear every word a leader speaks and note every misstep they make.
This may look unfair to leaders and hypocritical of those who hold leaders to account. However it is very fair to the followers who depend on the leadership of the leaders. Leaders should be respected for the sacrifice they make to serve but that does not make them more important than the followers. The followers are actually more important than the leader and what is fair to them has more weight than what is fair to the leader.
It is for this reason that when some of us see our leaders make one misstep after another, we climb hilltops to make noise.
Today I am climbing the hilltop of jaluo.com to say that the MP of Gwassi’s behavior has been wanting, remains wanting and he has to change if he is to be taken seriously.
An MP worth his salt is not expected, should not beat, physically batter constituents even if they heckle him. Even if they are hired or even supporters of his sworn enemy he has no right to resort to unlawful and barbaric behaviour. It would be another matter if he was under attack and acted in self defense of which we would ask what his body guards were doing.
When he boxes and kicks people he calls drunkards that is not self defense.
In the strongest terms possible we are saying to Mbadi John to DESIST FROM BARBARISM and those he thinks are opposed to him will work with him. He is a young man and has a long way to go and should treat people he think are simpletons with care. AN MP is a REPRESENTATIVE of the people whether they voted for him or not. He should always be thinking of how best to represent them but not how best to alienate and exclude his perceived non supporters.
Muriithi and the likes of Rawinjo, you are right that the people must wake up and work hard but they must also hold leaders to account. The leaders must also be responsible and accountable.
Look at the reports from Kisumu City Council and those of other county and urban councils in Nyanza.-massive embezzlements of LATF funds. Is it the people or leadership embezzling the funds? THE PROBLEM IN KENYA IS POOR LEADERSHIP at all levels and this is a CANCER WE MUST ALL JOIN HANDS TO FIX.
This is why some people have been talking of fixing party nominations and electoral processes. IT IS HIGH TIME ELECTORAL PROCESSES RIGHT FROM PARTY MEMBERSHIP AND NOMINATIONS ARE FIXED.
The people of Kenya and representatives must revolutionize their attitudes and mindsets about politics. THIS IS A REVOLUTION THAT MUST ACCOMPANY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW CONSTITUTION.
I also urge you to read through the Auditor General’s report to see how political leadership is fleecing the wananchi.
I wonder what kind of leadership you want to adopt. The leadership is also shaped by the people who are lead. Without the people to lead ,they would be no leader hence his leadership qualities would not be exhibited.
Today I stand to differ with Samo as you expect an angel to lead you luos. Even yourself you are not a good leader either in your house or a group and your leadership qualities are wanting. Who told you that your behaviours are perfect than the rest lest you judge – is this what you call accountability?.
What amazed me with Luos of Gwassi is that they depend on their leaders in terms of livelihood – begging for money instead of working hard to earn their livelihood. Anybody who does not do that then is branded negatively.
Arrogance exhibited by the Luos as seen in the national arena is also wanting. This has made Luos to lag behind in development because of the pride and arrogance which have refused to leave them
It is high time you Luos of Gwassi change your attitudes before you start shaping your Leaders. The leaders come and go, but the attitudes of a person remains in the person unless it is changed for the better ( this includes anybody)
It is high time some tangible change is seen from the Luos otherwise you will always be complaining and remain in the opposition in the Politic Arena.
The so called Samo, realise that there is nothing new you are reporting in this forum. This is stale news and only shows your inability to have effective and impacting reporting. Don’t think that you are being objective to malign the MP and make him accountable for his deeds. There is nothing you are unearthing here.
By the way, you are even in darkness as you don’t even know how far has the case has gone for the boys who had attacked the MP.
Give us objective reporting rather than the kitchen kind of reporting
It is true that even if the leaders are upright, visionary and hardworking, it yields nothing if the followers are not upright, lazy and lack vision. But tow wrongs do not make a right. The people of Gwassi are telling political leadership to shape up and at the same time telling the comoon man to wake up and open their eyes.
You have no credibility to lecture Luos of Gwassi on the kind of leadership they want. You are wrong when you say that people should not hold leaders to account. In fact what you rightly identify as the imperfection of men(all men) is what makes it necessary to hold people to account.
That does not mean Samo is going to hold you to account on issues between you and your wife or between you and your children. However, he and everybody else has a right to hold you to account on what you write on this forum. That is why you are also using your right to hold him to account for his public views over public issues and public behaviour of a people’s representative. Why do you then want to usurp that right from him and the people of Gwassi?
It would also be very irresponsible attempt to defend the irresponsible acts of the MP using a name of a non-native
I honestly feel that is very arrogant of you especially given the name you are going with.
Samo is very clear on leadership and the influence leadership has on people’s livelihoods and what he is saying correctly captures what has been bedevilling Kenya.
It is known the world over that Kenyans are skilled, knowledgeable and hardworking people but we never realized meaningful development because of poor political leadership. The economic gains by the resilient private sector are quickly eroded by leadership without vision.
It is your democratic right as Muriithi – a fellow Kenyan to continue holding brief for myopic leadership but we are setadfastly campaigning for visionary and accountable leadership and visionary followership.
This is not the time to follow people blindly.
Can ‘Muriithi’ who is on the ground confirm to us the reports we are hearing of ‘Orore Declaration’.
Just this last weekend, leading professionals, technocrats and academicians from Gwassi in a function presided over by COTU’s Francis Atwoli and snubbed by the area MP declared at the cheering of the crowds that there is a serious leadership vacuum in Gwassi.
All in attendance agreed that Hon. Mbadi does not want to work with the people, does not consult even government technocrats in the district and at any other level on Gwassi’s development priorities. These observations did not come from the lips of those who stood for elections in 2007 whom Mbadi thinks he beat by his might but from those who did not contest and are not interested in contesting in future.
In the forum, it was rightly said that Mbadi is starving deservng schools of CDF funds and he has been at the forefront of fighting a major investment initiative in Gwassi after successfully misleading people against Suba Green Forest activities on Okuodo hill. Surely why should an MP fight investments that are intended to improve people’s livelihoods?
Mbadi should be shown the door!
For CDF misappropriations, the complaints should be formally lodged with KACC and the CDF complints committee. Our people shall not continue to languish in poverty because of the greed by our own brothers. Mbadi and his CDF committee should be good examples for PLO’s work against corruption.
The leadership vacuum in Gwassi is visible to all constituents apart from a few who are blinded by short term gains. This calls for thorough scrutiny of those who stand for elections. Mbadi, Muriithi, Rawinjo and his other apologetics can say all they want to say but their noise shall not stop us from sensitizing the people to revolutionize politics in Gwassi.
It is God given people power that we want the people of Gwassi to exercise.
I have been following this debate for some time now. It has no head or tail. As a matter of fact, if there is misappropriation of CDF funds, a normal bright person who is not an idler in mind, knows the channels and procedures to be followed rather than idly entertaining people in this forum. I wonder why someone should bring it up here here.
People like Samo Kiwa, Egase wa Egase the human sent for the Nyauchi, George Mboya Yogo and Caroli Omondi should not waste people’s time and space talking of leadership vacuum and the fight against the leading professionals, technocrats and academicians from Gwassi. Who are those who have been fought? For what reason would this be done?
What is not clear on the idle minds of the egase was egase and Samo kiwa is that instead of being spoilers, they are the promoters for the MP, going by their cheap unreasoning politics. We had left these outdated politics. The politics of today is not blindly leading a cow to the slaughterhouse but of sensible and reasoning sound minds which the Egase and Samo do not possess.
The Gwassi people are not led blindly through name calling and mudslinging but through mature politics.
So what if there is vacumm leadership? Whom are you crying for and for what?.
I agree with Muritthi’s sentiments that we are still far from mature politics. This has been our undoing the people of Gwassi.
Alalaye – You have a point man. These people are political idlers who are out to derail the people of Gwassi mature politics.
Political vacuum is created by such small minded fellows whose minds are smaller than “ochunglo”. Even ochunglo has better reasoning mind than these idlers.
Let them climb the top of the highest hill so that they can make noise to their vacuum land.
Nyis gi ni “Ywak ogwal ok tam dhiang’ modho”. Wa ol kod siasa mag tiend chiel.
ma onge kuma chope.
Gibiro ndiko ma gi ol – Kaka nyasaye ochano opogore gi dhano. Mano e gin momiyo kikuyu yanyo wa – cheap minds
THE COMPLAINTS OF THE CONSTITUENTS(FROGS) WOULD NOT STOP MBADI(THE BULL) FROM MISUSING DEVOLVED CDF FUNDS.
Alaleye and Gayo, if it is not important and useless to report misappropriationn of CDF funds, simply ignore the ‘idle entertainment’. We might be simple minded frogs but we are the stakeholders of the constituency.
We are not on the ground but the reports we have is that Mbadi snubbed the harambee? Is this true?
We also have reports that Nyauchi, Mboya, Otana, Nyaseme and other politicians attended the function. Was it wrong for them to attend? and does that qualify them to be the peple who sent Samo, Egase and those who have been informing us in this forum? It is reported that they uttered no word against Mbadi and that is mature of them.
Caroli and many other senior civil servants and academicians attended the function in their backyard. Was it wrong for them to attend just because Mbadi snubbed the function?
Is it wrong for constituents to complain against malpractices of their representative?
The best way to fight impunity is to advise the perpetrators, if they persist, talk about it and expose it in a restricted forum, but if it persists, go full blast in exposure and use every available forum. Indeed the case of Gwassi is the one that should be exposed in all available fora and those who do not like to hear the exposure can go hang themselves.
Lastly be informed that in Central Kenya or nearby Kisii, the consequences of an MP misappropriating devolved funds is so grave that most of their MPs do not dare joke with the funds.
We have evidence of Hon. Mbadi’s shameful behaviors and facts on misappropriation and embezzlement of CDF funds and waht I am reading hear is just a tip of the bigger iceberg.
However, you do not have any piece of evidence linking Nyauchi, Caroli and Mboya to the complaints from the constituents in as much as they also have rights as constituents to complain about the poor leadership in Gwassi. Let Mbadi address the complaints instead of crying wolf.
You also do not mess around then invoke the name of God. God has not and will not plan for a people to be conned and robbed by their MP.
Tom, If you have the proof then why are you sitting on it?. You are the enemy of the people of Gwassi by hoarding the truth.
If I were you, I would go to KACC or CDF Board and report the misappropriation and embezzlement of CDF funds. How can Mbadi address the complaints and yet he is the culprit?
Why bring up the issue which you cannot handle? How do you rate excellent and poor leaderships?
I challenge to be man enough to bring up the facts – the so called bigger iceberg if truly you want to help the Gwassi people from your indoctrinated perception of the so called “Poor leadership”
James, your response is an inndicator of the very poor leadership being talked about. There is a call to address problems which we are all aware of and the first person to address them is the so called ‘culprit’. Normally such compliants call for soul searching by those who are serious.
KACC and CDF board discharge their mandate at their pace and shall catch up. Do not treat us to Rutolike theatrics of thumping his chest just because the law has not caught up with him.
Ben, Why don’t you approach the culprit himself rather than have side complaints. Who has ever approached Mbadi himself. this is an old kind of game being played here.
The maturity in a person is the one who approaches the problem head on and solve it rather than the cowards who keep on making noise without any solution.
Complaining in this forum does not solve anything.
“Mbadi wuod gi Akugo chuth ber. Ondiek chiemo kama otiyoe, olayoe kendo ong’okie. Kata rwath bende chamo mana mare, dwassi gi nyiroye omany mana margi, yuak ogwal be ok mon rwath modho”
Ondiek cham mari, dwasi ma Gwassi kata onge chak ok lich. Ogwende ma Gwassi be ogo koko ma dwondgi dinre, mana wach gi.
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Ndugu James when you see complaints spilling into the public domain, be sure there is no structured forums for addressing the complaints; besides, the issues raised are about public leadership and resources. We are not talking about private issues. We are mad that a chance to lay foundations for Gwassi to rise out of the many years of neglect is being squandered by people who should champion the rise out of poverty. They are practising exclusion, clannism and greed with a kiind of impunity never seen in Gwassi before. THEN THEY WANT TO COMPARE THEMSELVES WITH FORMER MPS who not only lacked CDF funds at their disposals but were also facing ‘siasa mbaya-maisha mbaya’ policy of previous governments.
To fight this unprecedented impunity, we shall use every available forum.
The Gwassi Luos are too petty with one issue through out. Instead of concentrating on the constructive issues, you dwell on one person.
This is why your politics have been backward since 1963. This has nothing to do with Siasa Mbaya – Maisha Mbaya” or being sidelined. The Luos should change their attitudes so as to get the right tact to propel the development forward.
lack of change of attitude will lead to sideline opposition.
If the leadership of the MP is bad so what? . Do you sit there and continue crying or you wake up and move?
Tuko kwa mwanzo mpya – by the time you finnish complaining, some people will be very far.
Why can’t your wisdom lead you to the breaking the stalemate of the so perceived ‘Poor leadership’.
Why don’t you learn from the rest of the tribes – Kisiis, Kikuyus and Luos who have ambushed you upto your doorstep. This shows somebody who has woken up from the slumberland.
You will continue complaining of the MP and the outsiders will be busy reaping your land.
Wake up brothers. Wait for 2012
Muriithi if you who is busy reaping from where you never sowed can get time to poke your nose into what does not concern you, what makes you think the people of Gwassi cannot be gainfully engaged and at the same time camplaining against poor leadership? They are clear that their problem is poor leadership, where do you get the authority to manufacture other problems.
The people of Gwassi need to do the following:
1. Be watchful and vigilant and fight against abuse of priviledged offices by councillors, MPs, provincial administration. You do not sleep until 2012 to wake up and find that your leaders have been raping you. Wake up now and give the rapists deadly kicks.
2.Work hard and take davantage of new opportunities. Come together in cooperatives and maximize invesrtments in land, fisheries, knowledge and the youth(both girls and boys)
3. Do not sell your land but seek partnerships in investments in land and any other resources. he partnerships ahould be with reputable NGOs, government initiatives and private homegrown businesses.
4.Think seriously about the profile of leaders you want and use that to gauge leaders you are going to elect in 2012. Ignore the myopic sentiments of people like Muriithi who are partners in raping Gwassi with the current leadership.
5. Watch out for criminals amongst you like Muriithi who are available for hire to harm those who are spearheading calls for better leadership in Gwassi. Expose those bent on using criminals to silence those who are agitating for poor leadership.
Lastly, we shall continue to speak against impunity, poor leadership and opaqueness in using devolved resources whether Muriithi and Mbadi likes it.
We shall continue to speak against crime, criminals and their sponsors.
Samo, Muriithi is telling you the truth whether he is a criminal or not. Those are the facts.
Remember, speaking without action are meaningless and be informed that this forum is for all people whether Kikuyus, Luos ,Kambas etc. There is no question of poking one’s nose. This kind of attitudes are retrogressive and tribalistic to the developmemt of the Gwassi constituency.
We have been thinking critically about the profile leaders even before you were born. There is nothing new you have advised the people of Gwassi except emptiness .
Samo, why don’t you act on the so called poor leadership?. Why don’t you bring your excellent leadership in place ?
People of Gwassi – watch out for such like Samo – the wolves dressed in sheep skin.
I am not in leadership position and do not aspire to be a politician but political leadership affects me and the poor leadership in Gwassi affects me and my kinsmen more than it affects Muriithi. It pains me that now when funds have been devolved to local levels, our own people entrusted wih leadership and resource stewardship have turned against their own. This is not tribalistic but stereotyping a group of people the way Muriithi is trying to do is not only chauvinistic but criminal. The denigration of a people Muriithi refers to as ‘the luos of Gwassi’ is criminal.
There are many factors affecting development namely:infrastructure; attitude of the people; investments both private and public. All these are so much dependent on leadership at all levels that poor leadership will always frustrate the efforts of hardworking people. Now when Muriithi says that leadership and all the other factors aside from attitude of the people begs the question on the intentions of Muriithi.
Secondly, Gwassi has been neglected in terms of infrastructure, social amenities and other public investments but the people have been so resilient that you might not notice the imact of the past neglect. Then Muriithi who comes from a region that has been pampered comes and insult us in the name of defending Mbadi that the people of Gwassi are a problem.
What has the thinking of leadership profile that you have been doing before I was born brought to the people? That we are still having issues in leadership and developmnent is an indicator that the profiling you have been doing is hollow.
James, can you briefly say what your objective is, what Muriithi is upto aside from blind and empty sycophancy.On my side, the objective is to expose the poor leadership that you are unsuccessfully defending and I am moving on. I listed 5 action steps, what is your take them?
Odongo, which fact is Muriithi saying? I have seen different views on what the people should do and what leadership should do? Why don’t you critique the proposals by Samo one by one?
The profiling you have been doing might be useful for us, please bring them forth for our benefit.
Samo, we need pressure groups at the grassroots and I urge you to keep on the pressure. This is something which needs to happen in every ward, every constituency and every county of Kenya.
Muriithi or whoever you are, please be more sensitive. It is not acceptable and borders on crime to insult a group of people.
Are there no better spokespersons for Mbadi aside from Muriithi???Is Gwassi suffering lack of men and women who can advise and speak for the MP.
I am shocked at these bankruptcy in thinking exhibited by the so called Mbai sokesmen. What exactly are they trying to relay? It is within the commentators rights to demand responsible leadership from their MP yesterday, today and tommorow and this is a right they have whether they are lazy or not.
There is no harm dwelling on an issue which the commentators have identified to be a big obstacle. I mean they should keep on dealing with the obstacle until it is overcome.
We have also heard the rubish before of the luos being branded lazy after being denied public investments for over 4 decades. Muriithi, let the people you are branding as lazy deal with their problem. I have not seen any of them commenting about jigger infested feet, crime and all the ills in the places you are presenting to them as models. Like one person asked you, WHOSE PURCHASING POWER AND HOSPITALITY IS SUSTAINING YOU IN SUBA?
I mean it is the people’s purchasing power and hospitality and not Mbadi’s. It is this purchasing power they want improved by having right public investments. I have not seen any of them ask for handouts from anybody’s personal resources.
I am seeing Gwassi civic society in action. Keep up the pressure men and extend it to those who deny girls the right to education.
I do not think the complaints are without basis. People like Muriithi have not faced the issues raised by Samo, Egase and the others who are calling for a radical shift in leadership and political representation. They are not also denying the iresponsible acts by Mbadi because it is true he has been behaving irresponsibly.
It is very disgusting somebody using a Kikuyu name and pretends to be staying in Gwassi and at the same time insulting the people he calls the ‘luos of Gwassi’. Such people are dangerous and should be thoroughly investigated for trying to fuel tribal animosity.
I warn any reader of this that it is illegal and criminal to denigrate a group of people whether tribe, race, clan e.t.c. We should therefore be careful and not fall into the bandwagon of usimg tribal stereotypes to put people down.
I have been following this discussion for some time now.There have been shift from the initial and intended message of Hon. Mbadi fighting the 4 unruly and drunkard boys organised by George Mboya to attack him. The issues being raised here are poor leadership, embezzlement of CDF funds and more of it being settling political personnal vendettas.
I wonder why one should be called criminal simply he is a Kikuyu who has expressed his views just like any other Kenyan.
I wonder why a group of election failures should gang up against the current MP tarnishing his reputation for the sake of political mileage.
It beats logic to comment on poor development track record without accepting the efforts being put on the ground in terms of development. Are the so called “Human rights advocates” of Gwassi too blind to see developments being done?
Samo Kiwa, you should realise that calling Muriithi a criminal simply because he has said positive issues about Hon. Mbad looks idiotish of you and reflects level of immaturityin your thinking capability. You have exhibited high degree of triabilism simply because he does not belong to your hoodwinked Baraza of haters.
Egase wa Egase, be informed that Hon. Mbadi have intellegent spokesmen who get webbed in constructive debate and not such likes being displayed here just for the sake of fighting him politically.
Why scare people with 2012?. Let the voters go through their sore sheet on the development works done by Hon. Mbad. You will be shocked at the goodwill in the people’s heart, ashaming the few ganged up group of Political failures who are out to discredit Hon. Mbadi.
This is the best reason why we are being observed and seen by Kikuyus like Muriithi, as useless and hopeless Luos of Gwassi.
Remember that the Luos are their own enemies because they hate themselves for no apparent reason.
Come 2012, you will be suprised to see the incumbent MP trouncing the opponents because of his developmet record.
People with malice will be confined to the oblivion of politics.
People like Samo Kiwa and Egase wa Egase should not purport to be the civil society rightists fighting for common person of Gwassi – women say NO!
These are conmen of Gwassi who meet in hotels wasting their time pretending to be championing for the common persons needs.
Who has ever had any meeting with women groups to discuss poor leadership of Gwassi constituency?
Do they really know what goes on the ground?
Women have been misused for a long time in the Gwassi politics. We shall not be dragged like sheep to the slaughterhouse.
We shall mobilise women groups to charter our strategy towards the right direction and not to be associated with self individualistics.
Gwassi women, wake up so that we build our land.
I am a woman from Gwassi and I hereby confirm that what Samo raised here and the subsequent complints against his leadershp are right. Mbadi has failed women , youth and all in Gwassi and we have all the rights to complain. IT IS ALSO CRIMINAL FOR A PERSON GOING BY THE PSEDO NAME Murrithi to denigrate a group of people called the Luos of Gwassi. I dare him to publish his genuine contacts, phone number and e-mail and repeat the same comments and I shall castrate him.
The fact is that Mbadi fought the youth who asked for ‘gonyo’ but instead of explaining to them that ‘gonyo’ is not a desired practice, he descended on them physically. That act, in addition to others listed above, like Mbadi attacking Nyauchi, Mbadi insulting Caroli, are indications of a DELINQUENT MP who lacks all the skills of leadership.
What you are saying about George Mboya is not backed by facts, and some of us writing here just know about George Mboya, and we are contributing independently as constituents. We just know about him as one of the serious politicians in Gwassi. Trying to use an innocent politician’s name just because he contested in 2007 and lost, and is still expressing interest for the seat in 2012, will not make Mbadi’s failed leadership succeed. If it is true that George Mboya organized the youth to attack Mbadi, why didn’t Mbadi face him directly. Again, I dare Shauri Yako to publish his real name and contacts and sign what he is saying about George Mboya and I shall personally deal handle him.
What Jane is saying about women is true, but that should not be used to deny Egase and Samo their rights as constituents and citizens to complain about failed public leadership and representation in Gwassi.
Lastly, what I have read from Egase and Samo are very enlightening, and is a fair representation of what is happening on the ground, and I urge them to keep on and move a notch higher to conduct civic education in Gwassi. Criminals shall not continue to rob the people of Gwassi with a form of impunity never seen before.
Let nobody think Mbadi can pielo a dhout minewa than minewa biro jowo ne. Wan wa make ma ojow kende. Nyaminwa Jane(or whoever you are), kon Mbadi owe dwanyore e od telo. In be we piwtho wiyi, in mine magae mane oori. UNDER WHICH TREE IN GWASSI DID WOMEN SIT TO SEND SOM ANONYMOUS JANE ADHIAMBO TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
Negative stereotypes against the people of Gwassi by Mbadi apologetics like Muriithi betrays a criminal intent and nobody ever said that he is criminal for being a ‘kikuyu’-which is not even be the case. These are just irresponsible and desperate attempts at digressing from the issues that were raised.
The unnecessary unsubstantiated attacks on George Mboya by Mbadi apologetics going by the pseudoname of Shauri Yako also confirms the desperation in looking for scapegoats.
There are also some ugly rumours of plans to eliminate political aspirants and those vocal against poor leadership and we are soon going public with the findings.
I shall keep on writing against the ills perpetrated by those in privileged positions. I don’t need permission from people like Shauri Yako whose name suggests that he does not care about the welfare of anybody including his own. That is an attitude always displayed by the MP and all those who support him. They do not care about the plight of Gwassi people.
The facts of the incidence were reported: Mbadi, an ‘Honorable’ member of the society went physical on people he refers to as drunkards and youth for having asked him to ‘gonyo’ them. An attempt at scapegoating shall not hoodwink us, we know very well what happened and what has been happening after the incidence was reported.
We are not allowing leadership that is characterized by thuggery, conmanship,
and misuse of resources to take root in Gwassi.
Shauri Yako should go tell his masters that they have been exposed.
There have been attempts to organize thugs and criminals against George Mboya who has been jogging on the ground and dragging his name into Mbadi’s shameful acts is just trying to create a platform to execute the ill intentions.
If the likes of Faith Wadeya are the sympathisers of the advocates of the Poor leadership in Gwassi with their castration notion and the Kus Kus unfounded rumours of political elimination, then there is a terrible vacuum of idea in the minds of such dishonest people.
Genuine people work with facts and not rumours. They uphold democracy in their discussions and do not issue threats of castration. These are the worst animal than the poor leadership vacuum they are claiming.
From the ongoing, it shows the revelations of the kicks of the dying horse who never accepts a defeat.
The noise from the frogs will never prevent cows from drinking water from the source.
Who said that Gwassi people are unhappy with the Leadership of Hon. Mbadi?
This is the notion of the few disgrunted and frustrated never – accept- defeat people who do not know what is going on the ground.
Keep on making baseless and unconstructive noise. Come 2012, you will all be trounced.
Gwassi is bigger than the confused individuals who do not even know the direction, leave alone showing a chicken a direction.
“THE NOISE OF GWASSI FROGS WILL NEVER PREVENT MBADI COWS FROM DRINKING WATER FROM THE SOURCE” is a good summmary of Mbadi’s attitude towards leadership.
“YOU WILL ALL BE TROUNCED” is a remark indicative of failure to understand what leadership not. It is not me vs. them, it is not my win agianst their loss. If it is a win , all the constituents win; if it is a loss all the constituents lose. By the way who are these ‘ALL’ who will be trouced? and by who?
“WHO SAID THE PEOPLE OF GWASSI ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF MBADI?” . ” NOTION OF A FEW DISGRUNTLED AND FRUSTRATED ELEMENTS”, were common statements by KANU hawks in the 90s as it panicked from oppositon onslaught.
I suggest you that you guys go and have a serious barazas in Magunga and Sindo this December and next December to chart your course. These analyses by Samo and Egase cannot be ignored and they are applicable elsewhere in Kenya.
There is no need off wasting time for Barazas for people who are inclined to unreasonable opinions.
These are the same who will complain whichever Leadership comes in.
If you are unhappy with the leadership of the day, chart your own wayforward.
Otherwise there is no time to waste with such people.
Samuel, you are off the mark on this. Public discourse is one way of making people pool together both ideas and resources. All people need to be engaged with openness and obectivity in an open forum. Otherwise, online fora like this are just for the elite. It is in such forum where you can openly tell off the unreasonable opinions.
Do you mean everybody in the constituency who are old enough to participate in a public baraza have unreasonable opinions???? Which unreasonable opinions are these?????
Can you tell us alternative fora where people can have useful discourse on their livelihoods???
Are you not advocating for opaqueness and exclusion for the people by dismissing calls for public discourse????
Egase, what criteria did you arrive at the “Public discourse?”. Pooling together of the ideas go along side with the willingness to be open- minded and acceptance of the situation analysis of facts – of which you are not inclined to.
How many Barasas have you initiated since you noticed leadership problem?.
Could you show statistics of the rural forks who are sick heartened with the leadership problem?.
By communicating through this forum your personal views do not necessarily reflect on the rural folks who count for the majority of serious people than the many street gossipers as have been noticed.
Such empty- talking street gossipers of few ganged up individuals with no action will be ignored as work goes on in the constituency.
I challenge the crusaders of the so called Poor leadership to converne a Baraza inorder to mobilise support for the same rather than booring people in this forum.
For how long shall be crying and time tickles by?
Wake up now and call Barasas if you are genuine enough.
It is very sad reading through this. I also just read an article by Leo Odera Omollo which shows a sorry state of affairs in Luo Nyanza.
Public discourse through barazas or any other name you prefer is a time tested indicator of open leadership. Many complaints in media such as this is a good indicator of opaque leadership. Ideally, the MP or provincial administration should initiate convention of such barazas but any group can take the initiative.
The problem in Luo Nyanza is that if you take the initiative, you are mistaken to be interested in a political seat hence many shy away. Then those who are interested in political seats are also mistaken to be undermining the sitting MP.
Another thing is that barazas are seen to be political even if they are meant to share ideas on farming, enterprise development and other economic issues.
Otherwise, calls for public discourse are inorder. Egase, move on with your crusade and sow the good ideas whether in streets or through the internet and be reminded that in Jesus’ parable of the sower, some seeds fell on rocky ground, others fell on fertile ground and germinated but choked by thorns and weeds. As a good sower, do not be discauraged, just sow.
The youth are for mageuzi and be sure this is not only in Gwassi but all over the country. We are happy with the sowing in Gwassi.
Samuel, a call for barazas has been made and being a good ground that you are, weed out the thorns in you so that you bring positive change in political leadership in Kenya-but you start at your backyard.
Mageuzi na mapinduzi ni sasa! It all begins from attitudes and thoughts. Wang’ teko, lwedo maboyo kod telo ma ok ne mabor nyaka koro rum. Erokamona uru jogwassi kuom komo weche mag loko paro a yor siasa.
Kura nyaka koro tigo e yo makare. Jothurwa ong’ad kura kendo ochak somo jogo ma biro chung’ chakre president, governor, senator, MP, kod jogo ma ochung’ ne chama ma opogore opogore.
We did not elect an MP to be at the forefront of defending corruption and impunity. One time he is defending skewed employment practices, another time he is at the forefront of defending MPs’ greed and this time he is at the forefront of fighting KACC.
These are all done to attarct cheap publicity and sympathy by the party bigwigs. Our people are not going to eat that publicity and sympathy. It is also being done with the hope of recirocation when the heat turns on him.
I have followed the discussions with a lot interest because they have been real issues affecting the people of Gwassi constituency.But I want also to remind us that as we talk about the Gwassi what we should know actually is that we are talking about SUBA.Remember when Mbita scceeded to become a district we were left with one old district called Suba, with its original headquarters where it had been gazetted to be. Back to the discussion,we amust all agree that the leaderrship of our M.P has been more of foot sodier for other people at the national platform but NOT for the people of Gwassi.Infact he has been a member of a cheer team and its no secret we have all been seeing it on TVs.How I wish that Mbadi would use the same eloquence,prowes and energy to trully initiate development in Gwassi. Someone has rightly said that if we feel that the MP has misused the CDF then there are channels to follow.Granted, but I want to tell that one person and others that things are on the offfing and soon you will not be believing your sight and hearing. Mbadi is a young leader who had al the potential to grow his leadership and prove to the nation that the youth are capable, but he has failed to exhibit that acumen.Heis a shame not only to the Gwassii residents but to the youth.
The issue of Suba district headquarters and constuency name is one that should have been amicably resolved if the MP had mobilized people to openly discuss the pros and cons of maintaining theins as they were or changing. But too bad, the MP become partisan ignoring the fact that the constituency and the district is composed of both Gwassi and Kaksingri.
The issue of Suba District headquarters is a gone and burried case. Whether the people were mobilised or not, better you understand the Government has a stake in that. Whether you took it to Gwassi or Kaksingri, whichever way, people were bound to complain.
There is no leader in Gwassi, leave alone, Luoland whom people have praised happy with his leadership and development agenda. Whoever comes, will be same complaint.
Better you keep spare your breathe and wait for the next year’s August General Elections if you want to remove Mbadi ( Will it ? ).
Luos are fond of complaining of everthing and nothing hence ehxibiting how stupid we are. That is what Mureithi saw in you.
Even the Angel you are thinking of will turn out to another Devil you did not expect.
Luos, wake up and stop these endless stupidity of cheap retrogressive politics which have made you people lazy and poor. You engage in nonsensical talks and do little.
There is nothing like poor leadership, development gaps etc. This is purely clanism politics played by the few discontented people who cannot even provide leadership direction to a group of chicken in your homstead.
I have never heard baseless remarks. Where is the evidence that Luo people are lazy. You find many of them as top acaademics and researchers all over the world. Many are serving Multi National Corporations and international NGOs. Surely these people cannot be holding such position sif they were lazy. This is despite many hurdles put in their ways by Mureithi’s kinsmen under Kenyatta regime that saw the murders of of TJ and AK.
We have heard such genocidal sentiments before about Jews and many other groups that hurdles were put against but their resilience made them disorganize the oppressors.
Let the people of Gwassi deal with their leadership problems. The work of an MP should not be mysterious and the more they expose him the better. Be aware also that many of the people commenting on the misbahavour of Mbadi are people who know him better-people from his clan and village. Some are even neighbours and a large percentage are from Gwassi- not Kaksingri. I for one is from Mbadi’s clan and village and I have written him off. Which clannism are you then talking about.
The people of kaksingri are part and parcel of the district and constituency and we must include them in all that we do yesterday, today and tommorow. It does not matter whether the activity is Government initiated or not. Go preach your exclusivism elsewhere but not in Gwassi. Exclusivism is a tool that was perfected by KANU and the result was underdevelopment in many parts of Kenya. Actually one reason Mbadi has lost support is because he practices exclusivism. No wonder people like you are his apologetics.
Onequestion: What stakes do you have in Mbadi’s poor leadership?
I have never heard baseless remarks. Where is the evidence that Luo people are lazy. You find many of them as top acaademics and researchers all over the world. Many are serving Multi National Corporations and international NGOs. Surely these people cannot be holding such position sif they were lazy. This is despite many hurdles put in their ways by Mureithi’s kinsmen under Kenyatta regime that saw the murders of of TJ and AK.
We have heard such genocidal sentiments before about Jews and many other groups that hurdles were put against but their resilience made them disorganize the oppressors.
Let the people of Gwassi deal with their leadership problems. The work of an MP should not be mysterious and the more they expose him the better. Be aware also that many of the people commenting on the misbahavour of Mbadi are people who know him better-people from his clan and village. Some are even neighbours and a large percentage are from Gwassi- not Kaksingri. I for one is from Mbadi’s clan and village and I have written him off. Which clannism are you then talking about.
The people of kaksingri are part and parcel of the district and constituency and we must include them in all that we do yesterday, today and tommorow. It does not matter whether the activity is Government initiated or not. Go preach your exclusivism elsewhere but not in Gwassi. Exclusivism is a tool that was perfected by KANU and the result was underdevelopment in many parts of Kenya. Actually one reason Mbadi has lost support is because he practices exclusivism. No wonder people like you are his apologetics.
Onequestion: What stakes do you have in Mbadi’s poor leadership?
Baboons shall always remain baboons even if you domesticate them. BIM EN BIM.
I agree with you a baboon is a baboon and it thrives in chaos. Domesticate it and it shall surely bring chaos into your home.
James, you made me look for the song-BIM EN BIM by the late Jashirati
Sure, we do not want people preaching outdated practices in the name of supporting the written off.
Let baboons preach the ‘man eat man’ principles and practices deep in the KKK wilderness not to us. We do not reside in that wilderness. Those who want their support can go to the wilderness for that support.