— On Tue, 7/8/08, Elijah Kombo wrote:

From: Elijah Kombo
Subject: Odinga’s Speech Rubbish!
To: kaziafrika@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 6:41 PM

Read the Prime Minister’s speech and discover that its garbage out and an echo of the Kenyan political music. Infact he has added more base tone to the call of the Grand Regency Choir. I thought The Rt Hon PM will give some little inside story of the whole saga. The truth and nothing but the truth and not a mix of good vocabularies and promises. Infact his speech says that we will further sale our land, investment and other entities to the Libyans. On this very forum, an arguement ensured where Salem hit at me that we are a free democratic country and we shouldnt be biased on who invests in Kenya. I stated also that the Libya CEO has managed to pocket some few Afrikan leaders including our own to persuade them to allow his evil schemes survive. While i echo that Libya is well off than Kenya, we shouldnt allow cheap coins in expense of our land. We basically do not need Libyan Investment in this country. Otherwise who has asked them to bring their investement to Kenya? Afadhali Moi mwenye alikataa……..

What is happening is a show of lack of understanding what Foreign Direct Investement is, its effects both positive and negative. We do not have the FDI standards. Libyan boost in oil but have they signed any concession with the Kenyan Governement? Still a barrel goes at 100bob and no doubt about. New African corruption, and Libya is at it. The same Governement has built a large hotel in Khartoum, now the Sudanese politicians talk in low tones over it as it built juts a stone throw from State House, and is in the midst of government offices. Omar Bashir will slaughter you if raise a voice. In Uganda, President Kibaki was all smiles talking to Gaddafi during the opening of yet another scam building. Raila will defend the Gaddafi Government as he is a replica of Fidel Castro style of leader. We do not need Libya in order to prosper. Any country that is taking advantage of another country’s weakness should be in the list of ‘corrupt’ nation.

That is why Chinese are known to be king makers in bribery index. Chinese like Libyans are corrupt – they own almost everything in Sudan. Oil companies are either chinese or Libyan owned.

My nostril can differentiate Omena from Ombuta. I sense both the President and the PM were involved or knew about the sale of the hotel. People mentioned (Amos Wako, Raila, Kibaki) knew about the sale. When food is cooking in the kitchen, the smell is always felt afar and you will receive friends before tabling the Ugali. Can someone tell me that when Raial briefs the President or when are having some coffee talk show, they never discuss about serious things in Government? Odinga, Kibaki and Wako knew about the transaction being concluded. Whey they couldn’t raise question immediately? Why would they wait for poor Orengo to shout before the press. From the 23rd April to June is quite far to keepm mute. When one takes office, the first thing that is done is to check on outstanding issues and follow them vigorously. How come the PM office kept quite?
How come the AG office werent on top of things?

The Grand Coalition is rubbish, a regrouping of corrupt monks and should be dissolved. No wonder the PM did not like the Grand Opposition. Who in the grand coalition is not a tapeworm. Everyone. Tell me who is clean on anything. None. All are corrupt faces, recycled and now more experienced in corruption. Now come 2012 – we shall have renewed faces, Uhuru Kenyatta, Raila Odinga, Saitoti George, Martha Karua, Kalonzo Musyoka, etc corrupting thei way to top positions…..are they clean?

Kombo Elijah

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— On Wed, 7/9/08, Dorreyn Anziya wrote:

From: Dorreyn Anziya
Subject: Re: Odinga’s Speech Rubbish!
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 12:33 AM

Hey Elijah your story my friend is kombokombo! The speech was sawa what did you expect the son of Oginga to say?to support the dirty saga y can’t u ask mr. speaker or the commission of inquiry to give u a copy of the saga for u to understand vizuri in details kwani wee ni wa wapi? u expected him to read or say word by word!the speach was brief enough for a clever person to understand sir!!!let the PM do his job we are in a morden world by the way Elijah get a tape of yesterdays event.Mr PRIME MINISTER IS AND WAS VERY PROFFESIONAL!!!

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— On Wed, 7/9/08, florence peace wrote:

From: florence peace
Subject: Re: Odinga’s Speech Rubbish!
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 11:13 AM

Hi wanakazi,

Maze the PM knows what he was saying, what I do not understand is the trap for exploiting disadvanged countries of their resources. An instantance is Sudan vs china oil relationship. This is unhealthy relationship engineered by Omar Al bashir. He feels Zero (O) for thousands of people suffering and dying in oil region like Abyei , and those staying in areas where the oil is carelessly extracted,environment degraded and un wanted products of oil dumped in the river affecting life of poor Sudanese who never benefit from the oil. Now tell me are leaders to serve their people or their own greedy interest?.

Peace Florence
Advocacy,Lobby and Gender Officer
NESI-NetWorks
Juba-Based
Mail:flopeacy@yahoo.com
Mobile:0477228300

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— On Wed, 7/9/08, PAUL ODERA wrote:

From: PAUL ODERA
Subject: Re: Odinga’s Speech Rubbish!
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 2:50 PM

Wanakazi,

The PM’s speech was rather coded. Needs deciphering with a finger in the past and an eye in the future.

Africa is exploited by foreign investors because the African decision makers themselves, have perfected the art of exploitation against their own people for decades. We Africans have shown the other continents that we are selfish and short term focused_________the here and now syndrome.

Accepting Foreign investment is not the problem, but the rationale dynamics which go with it. When you talk of Sudan/China, don’t forget Angola/China/Norway. China is all over Africa and it doesn’t smell sweet.

Nice day
Paul

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— On Wed, 7/9/08, quicks quicks wrote:

From: quicks quicks
Subject: Re: Grand Regency re-sold to Kenyans- IPO style
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 7:45 AM

Paul and All,

What if we lobby the govt. to float the Grand Regency shares like Safacom and akina Kengen; i believe as citizens, we can buy enough shares to out-bid the Libyan offer!

Or what do you people think? We dont need Foreign investors who bring (2 bob) which we can raise by ourselves.

What are the technicalities involved ,if we wanted it floated.Anyone with an idea?

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>>> Judy Miriga 09.07.08 18:34 >>>
Folks,

Public utility, in the best possible way, and any Genuine Government, will treat it as an outstanding Public Cut Program that are extremely vital that can generate money by floating shares to public and foreign investments. They will attract competitiveness when Devolution of Power by popular Demand (People Power) is active, where Public Trust Facilities are not really strapped to personalities or individuals or a section of Regional Communities – where Grand Coalition Government marshals Grand Plan for Our Society, depicting a notion that Kenya is corrupt and not transparent because of the few selfish leaders are straightened out, where Public Policy is enacted and Administration Forum is run by genuine, challenging and competitive charactersis capable of structuring enabling environment for such to flourish permiating down to the grassroots, where discipline, Virtues and commitments are geared to restoration of good faith – (Any Program Put to Produce Good Results are surely neccessary) – the plan will definately succeed. Yes it can. And that is why we will not stop making noice until we achieve this kind of conducive atmosphere, and that is why Orengo is good as well as other press button pressure groups. Keep the fire burning people. Because, all public utilities must be repossessed – come rain come sunshine.

Rt. Hon. Raila is therefore not irrelevant, his parliamentary public statement is good, it was generally what would have been expected of him in this tricky structure of Grand Coalition Government. Just because Kimunya was lucky, he stepped down before Raila would throw him into jail. These characters of shame have no morals, they dare call Rt. Hon. PM Raila Judases – and still have guts to call him TRAITOR, Mundia Mundia et them all, they have no shame!!! – Raila have given them a second chance, a breathing space, but they have eyes, but do not see, have ears but do not hear. Well they will some day…..

And yes, it can be done, just team up with strategists to come up with committed resolutions and proposals, the time is now.

Good Luck

Judy Miriga
USA

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Judy & the rest,

Let us watch and wait carefully who Kibaki is going to name as the next finance minister , what type of investigation , its outcome and where they will take Kimunya to. Todays Nation did name some very complex things about the person to be named as an acting finance minister`s duty. My point is this since Kimunya is under investigation why can`t his assistant minister perform his duty now, after all that is why tax payers give their money to assistant ministers in salary form and extra expenses.

Another point I want to bring up is this: Since this hotel dill was first made between KIbaki nad Gadaffi, is it possible to know how many Kenyan properties are in Libya during this investigation or this is a one side business. These people looks like budies who have been doing business together for a longtime. The same Libyan company also wants or has bought the oil refinary in Mombasa. Infact Kenya has a lot of problems and without the active common man a lot will go un noticed. Our grand children will one day wake up to realise that the whole country had been auctioned long time ago. We might be walking on another governments land by now.

Paul Nyandoto

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:17:27 +0300
From: Paul Nyandoto
Subject: Vs: Re: Grand Regency return to Kenyans – IPO style – That is it!!!!

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Nyandoto,

You are truely right Paul, so we have to fight with all our might. You see how rigid and adamant they are, something is cooking!!!!! I am not suprised. Lets wait and see.

Judy

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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Judy Miriga
Subject: Re: Vs: Re: Grand Regency return to Kenyans – IPO style – That is it!!!!