— On Thu, 7/17/08, SamuelOngoro@ . . . wrote:

From: SamuelOngoro@ . . .
Subject: Re: EDUCATED VS LEARNED
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 7:14 AM

Dear All Good People,

Of course being learned is being schooled, usually academic credentials. In Kenya, usually when one goes to school upto college level they are losely referred to as learned. Acquisition of skills through training, etc is what learning is all about.

Being educated on the other hand is holistic including, but not limited to: the adaptive ability to fit within the society and to appreciate the envirnment within which one finds oneself. Rememeber there are so many learned people whe are uneducated and the reverse is true! You remember the saying: “…a child educated only at school is uneducated child..” Being educated enables one to appreciate humanity and avoid being engaged in condescending attitude approach to people especially when one thinks one has higher academic achievements.

In brief, being educated is virtue one learns both within and without a school set up. A professor who is a night runner is uneducated, an illiterate person who knows his limits and can cohesively live with others is educated.

You should note that schooling, predisposes one to appreciate issues better. Ordinarily therefore, lerned people are expected to act educated. You are therefore encouraged to go to school. However, remember, “education is not a perfect vaccine to stupidity.” Have you ever wondered how some learned people utter or do silly things including inciting people against other ethnicities?

Have I beeen useful? Are you know learned and educated? Be the judge.

Faithfully,

Sam Ongoro

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On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Judy Miriga wrote:

Samuel Ongoro,

It is the other way round.

To be educated is not to be learned.

When one is learned he or she acquires skills beyond the education (which is the scholastic course of study) and can relate or is expected to relate informatively than someone who is educated who acquires the highest scholastic instructional course But fails to put their education into perspective i.e. to be practical in terms of leadership or in participation of some sort or be seen as informed by having sound judgement on issues and deliberations.

Thanks and Good Day!!!

Judy Miriga
USA

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— On Thu, 7/17/08, Dr Makodingo wrote:

From: Dr Makodingo
Subject: Re: EDUCATED VS LEARNED
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 9:24 AM

Judy,

Here Sam is right… One can be educated without being schooled… Like the Swahili say, Asiyefunzwa na mamaye, hufunzwa na ulimwengu…This is education they are talking about aka Streetwiseness…

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Dr MAKODINGO Washington,
Registered Pharmacist and
Ag General Secretary/CEO,
National Civil Society Congress,
Katiba House, Ngong Rd,
P O Box 10394 – 00100 GPO,
Tel: 20 3873332/3871432
Nairobi – Kenya.

“If you go through life thinking about all the bad things that could happen, you soon talk yourself into doing nothing at all!”
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Dr. Makodingo,

And in english Wisdom is calling – in otherwords you dont need to go to school to be wise. To go to school is to get the basics verbatim of communication. So you build those basics through practice to perfect in different areas. In swahili, hakuna mtu aliye zaliwa mjinga au pumbavu, akili ni nywele kila mutu ana zake – na katika hali ya kustafsiri ni kama hivi, kila mtu atatumia akili kwa njia tofauti tofauti. Kama ni nywele, Wengine wataipamba, wengine wata nyoa, wengine pia hawatajali etc., Vile vile akili pia, Wengine wataitumia kwa njia bora ya kujenga, wengine hawajali, nawengine wataitumia kwa nia ya ubinafsi, hali wengina pia wataitumia kwa kuharibu na kwa sababu ya wivu.

Katika hali hii, Wakurugenzi huwa ni wachache. This means Wise men are few. In otherwords Learned People are few, but the Educated lots are many. Katika Chuo la wengi watu hukosa busara bila muelekeo ikawa ni Mass (bendera ya fuata upepo). Lakini katika Chuo la wachache, watu hu makinika kwa lengo na nia kisha wavumbua muelekezo (njia). This is in general terms.

Again it depends on what circumstance Sam is relating his story. In Sams deliberation, I picked this quote from his words “the adaptive ability to fit within the society and to appreciate the envirnment within which one finds oneself”, which I asumed was the Subject of his story. The Society and the Environment is a continuous model structure can be shaped for good or camouflaged for bad. Depending on the players and technicalities involved. I mean it all depends on the engineered Educated lots and the Learned lots (the informed).

So the choice will depend on how each manouvres their art in displaying performance. Common knowledge will determin which way to go. Common knowledge here, is the force directed by wisdom, the wise. The wise here are the learned. Knowledge is acquired just like education. Information is the knowledge acquired. Information is to be Leaned. So what do you do with the information you have learned (or acquired). you put it to practice, you participate. That is what makes the difference. But, I stand challenged.

Where is the standing? Please enlighten?

Judy Miriga
USA

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Judy Miriga
Subject: Re: EDUCATED VS LEARNED