Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:19:53 -0800 [08:19:53 AM CST]
From: HD
Subject: Re: After Obama pulling chair for Michelle, Kenyan women now demand more
Hi all,
Please treat these as my own observations. First of all, I do not want to stereotype anybody and secondly, I have enough professional experience as a Counsellor. Now, many Kenyan women are good but there is a rising number that have aped the Western culture too much that they have forgotten what we call values. I have met enough gold-diggers and I have met enough who feel that once you have a string of degrees or a 6-figure salary then all men are trash if they cannot surpass your perks. Men come crying over relationships gone sour every single day. You marry a woman when she is earning lower than you. She climbs the ladder after both of you have sacrificed to get her back to school. With the new position (job) she begins to show you that “after all, i can stay without you” attitude and makes use of any conceivable opprtunity to remind you of the fact. What has changed, if you may ask?
In the west women do not view their “take home” or money-worth as a measure to find a fulfilling relationship. As a counsellor I say that it all depends on the objectives you both had to get into this relationship. For Michelle, I woildwant to say she took a strong leap and had faith. She knew she was marrying a loser who had no strong family background, who was “skinny and witha funny name”, who had resulted from a broken kind of relationship and above all who stillw nated to be tied to some strange African home “in the middle of a jungle”. In Kenya our women still look at men as from some tribe, “not cut” etc. So when you talk of Kenyan women, the disparity is so wide and both extermes hold the majority. Veery few are able to count. They are good but not on relationships. The so-called women’s movement and the gender dimensions and wareness of rights have brought in a new breed. I still salute them and say they are good but relatioship-wise the Kenyan society has really taken a beating. Men have equally reacted negatively, thus the rising number of broken relationships. Men have an ego to beat and they are conscious of the woman who is rising and rubbishing him. Thus he negative reactins like dogging, bashing etc. We need to consult the Bible (we Christians) for the manual and prescrition of good relationships. This is counsel for both men and women.
These are my own observations and experiences, please. Comments allowed and I will welcome but not necessarily accept your views.
HD
— On Wed, 1/21/09, joseph nyongesa wrote:
From: joseph nyongesa
Subject: Re: After Obama pulling chair for Michelle, Kenyan women now demand more
To: bidiiafrika@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:12 AM
let the women know that there are things in this world that should not, cannot, will never be compared…. the kenyan women are “indeed” better! the best of the best…
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM, henry ouma wrote:
Do they deserve the more ?
Mitchelle’s role and life with Obama deserve that treatment.
— On Wed, 1/21/09, mike oketch wrote:
From: mike oketch
Subject: After Obama pulling chair for Michelle, Kenyan women now demand more
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 9:15 AM
http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=5234#post5234