Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:15:37 -0800 [05:15:37 PM CST]
From: Makele
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted
Nick
Waiting for a BA in whatever doesn’t mean that you know anything about the Mafia in Kenyan media. I don’t see what the KTN and its foreign dominated programming and overworking its employees is bringing to Kenya. Raila erred by I dont see why the Kenyan media is always holding someone aat ransom.
I witnessed a bad thing in sometime back when KTn highlighted a case where they said a teacher canned a student in Bul Bul primary school until the child passed out. It wasnt true. Infact the school has a discipline problem that primary school childdren are out of control and when you try to discipline any, you are marked and you will be disciplined yourself.
The teacher had to pay throguh his nose to settle the KTN allegations outside the court. The media didnt do the research and just punished a teacher who was doing his job.
Nick, you will not be famous by fighting Raila and Kibaki. Infact I see where you are heading. you are looking more like a fool looking for attention to score imaginary points without any facts. You copy paste media propaganda without a single backing of your allegations. You are a simple student waiting for hi ‘BA Degree’ so that he can get employment in KTN. Support them. Maybe they will employ you
On Jan 26, 11:33 pm, nicholas oyoo wrote:
Robert
Am just awaiting graduation on a BA Media and Journalism – Development Communication option. I have studied alot of media ownership issues. And I can tell you it is not only media owners that are the gatekeepers in the media. Even editors, and the bit journalist too.
But the matter we are dealing with here is that kind where the ‘victim’ Raila, gave room for his own crucifiction. Frankly I even questioned why the media never took Atwoli to task over the statements that he knows who the (maize) cartels are and is using this infromation which can save lives as tool for some form of blackmail. and even when Raila told residents in Eastleigh that he knows when maizemeal is expensive since he eats Ugali, they should have asked him to produce a supermarket receipt showing the latest shopping which unga was an item from his pocket as his shopping is NOT even done by Ida. How then could he know.
By pointing to The Raila/ODM stand in those Ringera lynching escapades and his position now, which came to light (only after this matter is highlighted), which is exactly what media should be doing, propaganda or not. Raila fed the Media fodder and comes out crying victim when media does its work.
Owners (and other gatekeepers) will come in on choice of what stories to cover or not, how an issue is covered, how many times and the follow up stories on that matter.
On a rating The Raila story due to prominence of the subject and the fact that he still is assumed to be horbouring ambition forstate house residence and a leading contender, is that kind of story that should have made serious item in all serious news channels. In other societies it would have. So KTN, in my considered opinion were very well within their scope.
But going to all that, we are out of the topic. We were trying to answer the simple question that Raila was misquoted or not. In my opinion he wasnt and I gave my reasons. Misquoting does not necesarily have to do with ownership.
My position being stupid or not, I will leave that to you to pass that judgement.
— On Mon, 1/26/09, Robert Alai wrote:
From: Robert Alai
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 11:22 AM
Nick
KTN is owned by Moi. The worst dictatoor in East Africa for many years. The are people who are orphanes and even baringo people going without food because of Moi. Now they are also trying to revenge because of the Michuki raid. I think that you look very very stupid when you get into Media propaganda without getting to know who they aare acting for.
I dont support Raila on this. Infact I want him to be held accountaable. But Oyoo you will look like a fool when you realise that KTN is a propaganda machine which is well oiled and run by people whom are not for the betterment of Kenya. Sometime back I thought that KTN, Nation and Royal Media were. No they are not. Its a bunch of desperados on the loose
Who owns the media in Kenya? Macharia, Moi, Agha Khan and the Government.
Alai
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:24 PM, nicholas oyoo wrote:
Misquoted wapi, on the screen? Ok lets put his attack on context. there was a Newshot feature that brought back the Ringera onslaught. we all remember ODM stopping trafiic in nairobi baying for Ringera Blood. This was because the media were asking how come they are sitting pretty and conmfortably saying The Same Ringera they wanted out was investigating? he also refered to thosethings that are happening as trivial. Then he goes to Kibera and spends more than 2minutes attacking KTN. some misquoting if you ask me.
— On Mon, 1/26/09, david bett wrote:
From: david bett
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 8:16 AM
Misquoted? It is on the web, we can replay his words. I will check again and be back. The guy is also intoxicated with desire for power. We can no longer trust any of the current politicians, not even one. We must go for brand new breed or we are doomed and hopeless to remain only scums of the universe.
— On Mon, 1/26/09, Harriet Watindi wrote:
From: Harriet Watindi
Subject: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 10:39 AM
By the way wanabidii wacheni hasira mingi about Raila and his so called ‘new position on the media’ the guy has not changed. He was only misquoted by the media as they have been known to do from time to time.
You can restore the confidence you had in the jamaa.
Dear All,
I think this country in a situation that need to be solved so urgent.
The so called BLAME GAME that has engul the so called PUN and ODM mps and ministers.
they are tearing this country apart.What did prime Minister has to do with maize.
I think Prime ministers removed this country very far from dictatorship to democracy.
The so called PNU MPS do dot have respect to the Prime Minister,If there was no humble for Prime Minister to take that post to bring peace to a common man,Kenya would now seeing millions of skelletons around this country.
He had a human heart,Everbody new he won the election.We should not burry our head in the sand that no body knew who won the election.HE WAS RAILA WHO WON THE ELECTION.
Those who should be take to international criminal courty is KIBAKI AND KIVIUTU.
Why is this country trying to manipulate true things that does not even need investgation??Why is the President fooling the public.All scandal that the culprits are clearly known,that should be taken to court for judgement.Kenya has alot of money that can manage its people ,put the leaders in the Government has made the country as their personal assets.
Am a kenya citizen,who has done Diploma in Information Technology.