Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:22:51 -0800 [01/27/2009 07:22:51 AM CST]
From: onguru daniel
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!
wanabidii! it’s cool to criticize, accuse, defend and even get personal…but what i see in eric is a boldness that is appreciable, providing there is sustainable and not-easy-to-wither evidence! while appreciating our individual roles in shaping this country, let us not delve into a crescendo of hearsay, rumours and wild guess…our duty is to hold our leadership accountable, not account for their misdeeds, or imagine thus! let us all gear our attention to a focused opinion-giving and sharing generation!
— On Tue, 1/27/09, martin kiiru wrote:
From: martin kiiru
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 3:08 AM
People,
When you start discussing guilt or innocence of public figures facts are often ignored, because some people will follow emotion rather than reason. What’s needed in government is accountability and transparency, then the guilty will have nothing to hide behind & the honest ones will be visible. With all the posturing and threats it’s impossible for us to make decisions on guilt. Everyone’s capable of being corrupted, even those we have made demi-gods. In the absence of all the relevant facts, i suggest that it must be one of our ministers’ responsibilities to remain above reproach, and that those who do not step aside for their names to be cleared or condemned.
On a not so separate note, might i suggest following China’s lead in tackling corruption, and bring back capital punishment for those found guilty of corruption?
2009/1/27 Grace Asimba
Why should Raila go and where? To start with, everybody should know that Raila is not a fool enough to mention a media house and go further to say “I will deal with them later”. Despite the fact that he mentioned a sensitive issue about media freedom, he was direct and on a light note.
The people who claimed to be whistle blowers on his involvement on the maize scandal should come out and give the public more evidences on the same. These fellow Kenyans are working in the interest of other human beings by trying to give our 2012 president a bad picture.
Raila is working under very hard situations whereby he has to keep the coalition and the country together lest he is said to be a spoiler. The only way to do that is not to take extremely pragmatic steps that will shuffle feathers of the opposite side of the coalition.
Measure wealth not by the things you have, but by the
things you have for which you would not take money.
— On Tue, 1/27/09, Omondi Amos K’Ogal wrote:
From: Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:19 AM
For those you have supported Raila and are LUO’s, they will tell you that its common for raila to be angry, and in most cases, he would express it in Luo. I have heard of so many instances, where for example, someone heckle in a crowed and he would say………. you know.
All said, the fact is that Raila is one of the most honest politicians in Kenya. I looked at the names of the people sacked from the NCPB and noticed one thing, if you did, it fine, but for those who never noticed anything its upto you. Corruption in kenya can be handled by Ministry of Internal security through intelligent, KACC and the OP. Period. i dare anyone to challenge me on this.
About the media, I think one guys in this forum has been consistent. He is Alai. He know the media so well. If the elections were not stolen, we would have new faces at KACC who would do the work, not to protect.
For the media, am sorry for them. Raila is the only guy who can protect their interest.
thanks
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Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Tel: 0720801165
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Jenkins Kimiya wrote:
Nixon,
I agree with you 100% people are worried of 2012 stiff competition and they’re therefore planning early! We can not be fooled men! Roaila is not involved in those scandals! Bring up the evidence and lets prove it that he was involved!
Stop tainting Raila’s name people in this forum are being used by politicians to corrupt other members minds and suggesting possible candidates for 2012 and even bringing funny ideas! We have grown out of those petty politics, let not wanabidii be fooled by petty politics! Sorry, we’re not buying those ideas! Be aware of even people changing names just to convince wanabidii that they come from Raila’s Tribe and they don’t like him. Don’t be fooled!!! They recent Polls show Raila is still the people’s Choice!
Wanabidii, be aware of politicians and their agents in this forum! Let people campaign maturely not using these dirty politics in this forum!
Jenkins
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:17 AM, eric odhiambo wrote:
Lets not beat about the bush, raila is deeply rooted in these two scandals. He has alot to hide. Amekula, aende. Its time we overcame tribal affiliations and looked for quality in leadership.
People RAILA ODINGA MUST GO!