Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 04:01:18 -0800 [06:01:18 AM CST]
From: henry ouma
Subject: Re: AMOS WAKO-An AG we do not want!!!
Amos,
Get facts clear—I dont expect you and others to miscontrue my remarks again.
Amos Wako doesn’t want to hang on the job. Instead, it is the president who wants him there. Who appoints and fires the AG ??
What I emphasize is that Amos Wako is truly a political, presidential appointee and as Kenyans, we do not elect him and so it appears his appoitnting authority is happy with his performance, for their mutual gain. Kenyans have very little to do over Wako.What one must recognise is that the failure lies wholly with one Hon. Mwai wa Kibaki. But what specifically is the work of the attorney general ? Many times it is the president who fails to take his advice and so failure is the presidents’—since Cockar and Bosire said Kimunya and Saitoti respectively must take responsibility for their actions didnt the president dis-regard that ? Then who else can he listen to ?
Then there is the Ringera how many prosecutions involving prominent people has he led ? Infact it is said that his investigations are too shoddy to lay or build a case against some one and the age must just make them look foolish–We saw how Ringera went about with Pattni on the grand Regency only to have the hotel secretely sold—get the roots of current corruption and who the beneficiaries are–Wako is just a victim of cirmcustances much as I would a gree with you that out of prudence and integrity he would have quit.
And if it is the question of perforance let’s start with the president coz the constitution gives him powers to use properly but does he use them in the better interest of Kenyans then we can walk down the ladder to those he appoints—-Look around in the corporate world if a company fails, the MD takes blame for overall bad management.
Regarding gentlemanhood, I think Amos Kibara you are dead wrong .Please realise that Githogo quit his job out of cowardice and fear that he could be assasinated.If you were serious in telling this truth we would agree.If I may ask if Githogo had the courage why the hide and seek games with the Murungaru ??
And by the way look at the judiciary today the mess is still there despite the ill-intended purge. Amos Wako is not to blame for the judiciary, for the corruption ridden police, for 100 yrs land leases, for failure of electoral reforms, for tribalism, for the weakening economy, insecurity, the rogue parliament, the weak infrastructure and local govt—-it is clear that each ministry is failing and do you blame the AG for all these—-Just look athe broader socio-economic and poltical context and tell the forum who is failing Kenya. If you agree that we take a look at the presidency today then lets take off —
— On Fri, 2/6/09, Amos Kibara wrote:
From: Amos Kibara
Subject: Re: AMOS WAKO-An AG we do not want!!!
To: bidiiafrika@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:54 AM
Henry,
Henry your threshold is too low for this country, just because he has never been mentioned in corruption deals he can stay. Are we asking for too much when we ask our public servants to deliver and stay corruption free?
The weird conclusion from your argument is that he can hang on the job without delivering and wait to be fired. If somebody gives you and job and then denies you the tools to do the job, you have no business just sitting there enjoying the benefits of an inactive personnel.
If he was a gentleman like you claim without without corruption, he should do what gentleman Githongo did. Quit the job!!!
Henry and my fellow Wanabidii, I hope we do not want a to keep a job just because we get paid; rather, we should keep a job because we deliver the services or perform the duties allocated our portfolios. If Amos Kibara, Henry Ouma, Robert Alai. Mathias Aguta, Muthoni Kabeberi, Kennedy Oduor, Edwin Mwaura, Otieno Sungu and the 19K wanabidii can’t deliver in their jobs, their must go!!!! With the same tone Amos Wako need to go he has failed Kenya. Kwani, nobody else is qualified to do the job?
Sincerely,
Kibara, Amos Gakobo
“If all you had was a hammer, you would treat or see everything in and on your way as a nail”
Montgomery Alabama, USA
— On Thu, 2/5/09, henry ouma wrote:
From: henry ouma
Subject: Re: BLAME KIBAKI NOT AMOS WAKO
To: bidiiafrika@googlegroups.com
Cc: kagakobo@yahoo.com
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 9:45 PM
Amos,
I agree with you that AG he cannot add new value to our government.
But do you think the president who appoints the AG is useful either ? If Anything Wako’s work is messed up by his appointing authority so do not blame him.The president is not keen on doing anything to improve governance.This clear from how he has re-appointed one Kimunya to the cabinet against all odds.This is evident from things like the Atur commission, Cockar commission, Bosire commision all which are not Wako’s job to implement.Amos Wako is a presidential appointee and so cannot go against the evil schemes of Kenya’s executive arm of govt.
Just see how parliament is being manipulated—does the president believe in good governance which espouses clear separation of powers between the three different arms of govt ? So if we sincerely do not want Wako then we must say why we want Kibaki, Raila, Marende and Gicheru.The point in my contention that Amos Wako does not head any arm of govt and two it is govt that frustrates Wako where useless Kenya’s “rulers” and not leaders/managers seek self aggrandisement and corruptly acquired riches so Wako is smart leave him alone. By the Way has Amos Wako been implicated in any acts corruption since he was appointed in 1991 ?
— On Thu, 2/5/09, Amos Kibara wrote:
From: Amos Kibara
Subject: AMOS WAKO- An AG we don’t want!!!!
To: “bidii Afrika”
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 8:52 PM
Wanabidii this is an extract from the Nation online edition:
“Serious Fraud Office (SFO) has been extensively dealing with the Attorney General and asked for evidence so that it could be taken for prosecution in the UK. The evidence has not been forthcoming….Without evidence from Kenya the investigations could not go on,†he said.
With that said the file was closed and the Anglo Leasing according to Wako was an animal that went extinct.
This guy Amos Wako has been such a failure to the nation of Kenya. With all blames on corruption prosecution stopping in his office why can’t somebody else be given his job and “lets walk the talk” as Kalonzo said. We do not need a SMILEY face as our Attorney General.
Sincerely,
Kibara, Amos Gakobo
“If all you had was a hammer, you would treat or see everything in and on your way as a nail”
Montgomery Alabama, USA
Hey Guys, I was just about to do an article arguing that smiley Wako should go. But then, I decided to Google him and ended on this forum where you guys are also divided as to whether Amos should go. After reading those for, and those againist. I concluded that Although Amos should go, he is just a symptom of a bigger disease. And that disease is the executive.
It cannot be debated that Kibaki is a failiure, and his failure has make Moi’s misrule seem like the reign of King David. While we would want Amos Wako to go, our obsession with Wako’s failings obscure Kibaki and Moi’s failings which we need to zero on. A leader is known by the choices he makes, especially his advisers. If he chooses fools to advise him, it can only mean that he is the bigger fool. Look at Obama’s choices. Everybody is agreeing that he has made the right choices. Lets not empathise with Kibaki. Nobody forced him to retain Wako. Have you guys forgoten Chunga, who enjoyed security tenour yet he went? That wako is a failiure, an embarasment and a millstone around Kenyans necks is a fact. But then, if Kenyans demanded Amos to go, Kibaki may indeed, if pushed to the wall, decide to sircrifise him. But what would be the result? Wouldnt the sacking of Wako make Kibaki look decisive which he is not? Wouldnt it actually make him look better than he really is?
My take is that Kibaki leadership does not deserve being deodolised with useless sircrificial goats. Mr. Kibara, Wako has been an artoney general for 18 years. He has been dealing with goldernberg scandal for the whole of his term. If he did not resign after Goldenberge, Ouko’s murder, Tribal crashes, etc, why would he resign now? And would his resigning undo the failiures of 18 year?
Its my opinion that we should not be distracted what is the problem here. The whole kit and kabuddle is one stinking heep of dunghill. It will not be any less stinking, nor any less a heap of dung, if you were to remover small pieces which are extreemly stinking. If we are to deal with the putrifying stench, we have to remove the whole heap of dung.
If Wako goes, and go he need to, why would we want to remain with the rest?
I rest my case
Good day guys