Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:22:20 -0700 [09:22:20 AM CDT]
From: Doreen Otieno
Subject: Re: TRIBALISM OR POVERTY? WHICH IS KENYA’S BIGGEST ENEMY?
Harun,
I think you’ve got it the opposite. Tribolism, nepotism, and greed, bad policies, bad governance, to my understanding, are some of the sources of poverty in Kenya. Where these thrive, the result is poverty, corruption, lack of equitable distribution of national resources, disparities in every sector of life, just to mention a few. The only way to explain this is that Kenya lacks honest and sound leadership. Remember president calling press conference to talk about his wives. I don’t think this a national concern and it only shows bankruptcy in ideas and insensitivy to national issues. What is happening in Kenya, my countrymen/women, is pathetic.
Doreen
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From: Harun Kaburia
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:34:18 AM
Subject: Re: TRIBALISM OR POVERTY? WHICH IS KENYA’S BIGGEST ENEMY?
In my view, poverty is a worse enemy in Kenya than tribalism. In fact, I hold the view that its the crippling poverty bedevelling Kenya that makes tribalism so pronounced.
How else do you explain the fact that the places worst affected by the post-election violence were slums and areas with low-income dwellers? There is something very dangerous with anyone who has lost hope or anyone who perceives they have nothing to lose. The whole concept of ‘its our turn to eat’ stems from the misguided notion that once we have someone from our tribe in power, then we will have enough to eat, our children will go to better schools, etc.
If we sorted out poverty, I believe a lot of the other problems affecting us would appear much easier to solve.
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM, bedann maina wrote:
Speaking of gospel truth do you remember some people infact a Kanjura who said since their tribal chief has read the draft constitution and disapproved it there is no need of leading. My brother Ogalo we are our own worst enemies but together we can by wiping out the whole house in the 2012 elections and elect leaders and not politicians.
— On Wed, 3/11/09, josiah ogalo wrote:
From: josiah ogalo
Subject: TRIBALISM OR POVERTY? WHICH IS KENYA’S BIGGEST ENEMY?
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:12 AM
YPs_Ke,
Hey members am seated behind this screen and thinking of the said topic…..Tribalism or Poverty, which is Kenya’s biggest enemy?
Are the two intertwined or they are independent of each other?
Secondly what major issues will form part of campaign agenda come 2012 elections?
1. Constitution review ——– A new constitution within 50 days in office,
2. Zero tolerance to corruption ——- all perpetrators of past scandals to be paid without further investigation,
3. Equal distribution of resources ——- all provinces to get equal Provincial Development Fund,
4. Food security ——– finding long term solution to food problems in Kenya, Leasing land to foreign countries i.e. Qatar, Israel etc
5. Landlessness ——– I will be hunted if I say anything here!
6. Tackling rising insecurity ——-
I think our “leaders” (read hyenas) are very poor thinkers. Whenever elections are held and somebody loses, accepting is very difficult…..it seems they are stuck in the scarce mentality! No body sees serving Kenya in the capacity of an Opposition leader if nothing……you gotta be in the government by all means……no wonder!
We Kenyan voters are to blame as well…….we/I play into tribal hatred being spread amongst us by the “vipers” and believe what they say as the gospel truth! Next time guys, I pray and hope that we have a change of heart and mind…..we shall vote in good leadership and help create Kenya anew!
Let us respond professionally to help find a common ground as a people!
Regards
Josiah Ogalo
Praise the Lord,Amen?
Yes dear brothers and sisters.I think it is the notion of poverty. With poverty, we are destroyed.Look, intelligence begins on the environment where a sibbing is conceived.tiny as it is,the organism. (DNA) is a nucleic acid that contains the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and some viruses.That’s according to http/;www,.The main role of DNA molecules is the long-term storage of information.
What does that tell you? To me it means that basicaly WYSIWUG.So a farmers child in most cases becoe farmers, and CEO’s become CEO’s , Presidents becoe Presidents,Preachers and that sort of senario, if yah feel me.
Fact is that some organisms are well organised and adapted to certain cultural environment, where they have structured Shelter for their own advantage.
As the small child emerges from the matrix of life(some one once said),its gets familiarity of the surrounding that it’s inhibited within.It also depend on intricacies in technology in this day and age.Just think about it.
Obviously and naturaly, it will be attached to the its mother as it’s immediate essence.Do you know where I am getting at?So, charity begins from a home, and if some have better(homes than others, then they are bound to try to make soe place for someone else that doesn’t have what is required.
The problem is , the ideological errors that were structured inside minds of that seemly have advantage of others, cling on their ideas of life.It is difficult to deterimine what one wants out of life.Probability of lifestyle doesnt come in way of anothermans thought.
Different people have needs that vary and you might never achieve how to pin point or go around that.
To me I think tribalism is the biggest enemy number one for Kenyans. I cant blame poverty because we have struggle by ourselves to earn a leaving but it is another when for instance I have all the qualifications for a job but I dont get that job simply because the manager or the employer gave it to his/her brother, cousin etc etc
i believe that ignorance and lack of knowledge is the main problem in kenya. welive in illusions just like alice in wonderland.we dont ask right questions.
our youth are fighting each other over manu,arsenal and liverpool,without taking a second to wonder how those teams reached where they are today. we criticise our leaders yet we made them what they are.in a nutshell we are a confused nation.we want to be like the u.s and britain,without findind out how those folks got where they are.the asians are rising under our noses as we still cheer kabogo piloting his chopper to a public event.
one day we will wake up from our deep slumber.no country will wake us up but ourselves,then we shall build kenya to be a great nation.