Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:38:58 -0700 [04/08/2009 12:38:58 AM CDT]
From: Edyth Anziya
Subject: Re: No Red carpet for PM

With due respect Raila deserves tottal respect whether u argue how amejaribu jameni I wish people for once could say something positive without looking at which part or tribe plss give credit where it deserves what else can Raila do if hes blocked plsss friends Evrybody knows that Agwambo is for people I wish people understant this but but I belive God will create situations to force them to understand by the way he has already started one day UKWELI UTAJULIKANA TUUUUUUU.

— On Tue, 4/7/09, alex adagala wrote:

From: alex adagala
Subject: Re: No Red carpet for PM
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:34 AM

With all due respect to members in this forum, we should not just post anything just because we have a keyboard and a monitor in front of us.
Some of the comments being posted here are more of emotional than scientific opinions .
For example when someone argues that the PM is making noise by demanding a red carpet, i beg to ask, what’s wrong with that?
Power comes with traditions,but this does not necessarily translate into good leadership. Ask yourself why schools have different badges and mottos yet they serve the same purpose? Does it matter? Yes it does.
About the PMs salary. Is it wrong to demand a salary for work rendered? Does kibaki and kalonzo earn a salary? Its a right and not a privilege for the PM to be paid since its constitutional. The question should be how much, but i don’t think muthaura is the one to tell us how and how much the PM should be re numerated. lets make our posts with mensuration.

Thanks
Adagala

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From: Papa Likondi
Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 11:31:34
Subject: Re: No Red carpet for PM

Sungu
Raila, now you are telling me that Kibaki is not respecting you. Do you think I Care whether you have yellow or green carpet for your akala shoes to step on!! Come on Raila, face Kibaki and tell him NOT US. We are sorry we can’t assist you on this. Those primitive decisions, you are part and parcel of them. We will judge you as a coalition an not as Kibaki and Raila. Think and think very fast. I hope you will not mind borrowing a leaf from Martha Karuas’ tree and jump without a parachute, we are waiting for you down here.

Papa Likondi

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:45 AM, otieno sungu wrote:

Raila Amalo Odinga you should not be lamenting about red carpets. The Dalai Lama sits on the floor, leads a simple life and yet is one of the greatest leaders of out time.

The Lord Jesus rode a donkey and walked most of his life on foot.

It is these traptions of power that make you leaders lose it, ati carpet? So?

Kibaki walks on red carpets daily and yet the man is the lousiests President in Africa alongside Mugabe.

It is not the carpet or the dias or the address stand that makes a leader, it is what the leader has to say that matters to the ruled.

We will respect you not for the carpet you walk on or the dias you address us from but the ideas you expound and how well you lead us.

Good day Prime Minister.

Sungu.
Juba.

— On Tue, 4/7/09, Justo Lwali wrote:

From: Justo Lwali
Subject: Re: No Red carpet for PM
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 1:55 AM

Liz,
And your point is?

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From: Liz Mwangi
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:27:50 AM
Subject: No Red carpet for PM

Raila: Kibaki tells my juniors to disrespect me

By Patrick Beja and Willis Oketch

Prime Minister Raila Odinga has claimed that President Kibaki has been instructing civil servants to disrespect him.
Citing the Coast PC’s absence from a Government function, the PM said senior civil servants like Head of Civil Service Francis Muthaura were under instructions from Kibaki not to accord him respect and co-operation.
“Mimi silaumu Muthaura. Muthaura ni PS tu. Mimi nalaumu Kibaki mwenyewe (I can’t blame Muthaura; he is just a PS. I blame Kibaki)” Raila said in Mombasa, on Monday.
The PM also expressed disappointment over his exclusion from major decisions in Government.
He cited the creation of districts by the President without consulting him as an equal partner in the coalition and complained that the districts were almost equal to constituencies in number.
“There is too much monopoly in the coalition, with one side making major decisions without consulting the other,” he said.
Formula for districts
The PM said the President should have waited for the Boundaries Commission to come up with a formula for new districts and constituencies.
“The Government is being run in a jua kali (casual) manner and that is why there was wrangling and disharmony in the coalition,” Raila said.
He said there was a plot to circumvent the Boundaries Commission and render it useless.
The PM spoke at Mkomani after he launched the National Oceans and Fisheries Policy.
He complained that the Office of the President had no respect for him as Prime Minister, saying that was why Coast PC Ernest Munyi skipped his function and the dais was adorned with a ragged carpet and without a toilet.
Were it President…
“If the PC knew the President was coming… the dais would have been properly erected with the necessary facilities befitting him,” he said.