from Judy Miriga

Yes Kuria you are right.

If anything, Oto need an education here, and yes, it is voluntary…….

Reform demands the truth. The truth is cusioned with transparency and accountability. The Mombasa Community understands that they have a right to question about their taxpayer money over checks and balances and details of how their money is spent. It is their right to fully participate in ways and means about matters that concern their regional tax money including the Municipal Garbage collection levy……Bringing this to the fore is not a crime or incitement…….it is a right people…….

Warsama is trying to send a message that are issue based and all he should get is genuine response and……since he participated in making the connection for Oto, I expected Oto to do better than chest thumbing.

People provide a lot of information through mood swing….and by loosing their tempers and bragging, they box themselves into a corner…….people then begin to wonder if they are genuine or fake……..

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com

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— On Sat, 2/11/12, Kuria-Mwangi wrote:

Rose and Janak:

I only agree with both of you on this issue taking too much of our time. I failed to see where the issue of hate speech came from. I think some of us are becoming paranoid over the kibunja commission. How the hell did the issue of hate arise on this topic? Which moron would use the discussions here to accuse one of hate speech? We are just throwing words here and there.

On Warsama being called names, I will repeat again that he will be called names as long as he continue to expose others. He didnt expect them to coming saying how young he is (he aint young either so I dont think that is an insult and I doubt he is worried a minute about his age). So if Warsama is upset with the insults he has received, he should keep quiet and nobody will insult him. The route he has taken is not faint hearted and I doubt he is hurt as Rose is trying to suggest. Hers is a very clever way to shutting Warsama’s mouth. Let him keep off and seal his lips and nobody will tell him he is old. He is only younger than Mwai Kibaki and that does not mean he is too old. Jexx can also claim I am too old because he is 15 years younger than me. Why would one say Warsama is too old yet the same loud mouths claim Raila is young enough to run our country. Warsama is younger than Raila so what the hell are they talking about.

I doubt Warsama was ever bothered by the age factor and so Rose should not get worried over a non issue.

There will be good things to come out of this. One is that accountability will have to start here before we can have the moral authority to put others on the docket. Second, we will in future learn how to handle money and avoid cases where you trust every Dick and Harry you communicate with. Rose gave examples from her family members and friends. I have similar examples. We may have to trust institutions which are seasoned in handling funds. I keep on telling my friends that you cannot send thousands or millions to a hungry man and expect him to work for you. He will work for himself first and when his stomach is full, work for you if he has some decency in the arena of morality.

Could this issue have been handled differently? MAY BE, assuming those involved are able to listen and work with those who need answers.

What can we do next. Continue interrogating Oto, demanding that he explain some discrepancy. If he opts to go to court, then we let the judiciary handle this. i feel he has not given satisfactory answers.

Those who are disturbed with discussions have option D. The delete key. Even Oto may opt to use this option. Nobody puts a gun on your head and demands that you read what is posted and also reply. I delete many mails whose header I dont like and I am reading the Otoman empire mails because I love the content and the message. Those who dont want to read about the Otoman empire, should use the D Key and leave Oto and Warsama alone work on this issue. I only request that we dont insult each other but speed up and work on accountability since we are dealing with an important institution. I believe Oto will also run this outfit better in future, get a real accounting done and if money is the issue, get the likes of Kombo to do some basic accounting for him. I believe that is the expected norm for all the non profits.