Folks,
Presidential power is a hoax, dead with 2007. People power is in the Parliament from People/Public Voices. Presidential power is the cause of Kenya’s too much corruption, impunity and Kenya’s collapse.
Moi had sent Kenya to ICU because of Presidential power, where he stole from public, looted, killed, tortured and assassinated many.
Kibaki stole election and ordered “shoot to kill”, because of Presidential power.
Migingo is sold by Kibaki to Uganda because of Presidential power.
Kwale Titunium is given to China on a silver spoon, to rape Kenya, because of Presidential power.
Kenyans have no food, jobs or dignity because of Presidential power.
Chinese prisoners are working in Kenya on roads and mines, occupying every corner of the rural villages, and mixing with locals because of Presidential power…….what a sham ! ! !……..
Now Kibaki cannot go to plant tree at Mau forest on Friday, because of Presidential power…….”bull”……..Kalonzo, sit your Bottom tight and await Parliamentary Select Committee (PSC)…….have some patience and just wait……..
We want Transparency and Accountability……we are tired of THIEVERY with IMPUNITY. Eeeee SHIMO YA MAPANYA LAZIMA IZIBWE NA, Ni lazima PNU wata Vumilia tu………HATUTAKI TUMECHOKA na Corruption Corruption Corruption ……. … ….. ILO TUNDU IZIBWE KABISA……Kina Mama wamepata shida kubwa sana juu ya Corruption and Impunity….Maisha imewaendea kina Mama kombo, kwani kina Mama ndio wameumia sana sana…….
Wakina Mama wame uza hata Machangaa ile waweze kusomesha watoto juu ya Corruption, Corruption ya Presidential leadership imetudhuru Miaka nenda Miaka rudi ….Parliamentary is the Way to Go People ! ! !
No More “Order from Above”……….
The Revised Draft was handed over to People/Public to give additional opinions. PUBLIC HAVE A SAY, and this is the “National Effort collection at Consensus Building” best Way Forward for Kenyans, where Public have their inputs in the Constitution, the way they want to be governed, so the Constitution is Doctored Yes BUT according to Public Views and Opinion. Why is the Hullabaloo .. .. .. ……..PNU …. or weather it is PANUA……give us a break ! ! !
Hata kama President Kibaki amekataa kwenda kupanda miti in Mau Forest on Friday, Mau Forest is a Done Deal…….No going back to Mau……..hata wakiungana na Moi, wajue tu mambo ya Mau, wanainchi wameshakataa……Wanainchi ndio wana Tuma Agwambo aende aka pande miti…….Wanainchi ndio wenye Kura…Moi a hame atafute pahali pengine, tena ajue aliiba mali ya Uma…….kwasababu Mau imebeba maisha ya watu….bila maji hakuna maisha……………. Wanainchi, sindikizeni PM Raila mukapandishe miti on Friday, you have our Blessings in Solidarity ! ! !..PNU wapende wasipende…….Friday is Tree Planting Day in Mau Forest……..The Whole World Say…..”Mau Forest Must be Free from Occupation”…….
Cheers!
Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
PNU disowns Revised Draft, says it was doctored
Updated 16 hr(s) 26 min(s) ago
By Standard Team
President Kibaki’s side in Grand Coalition came out with guns blazing dismissing the Revised Harmonised Draft released by Committee of Experts as a fraud against Kenyans.
In what could be the biggest jolt to the renewed quest for a new Constitution as per the 2008 power-sharing deal between President Kibaki and Prime minister Raila Odinga , six senior Party of National Unity Cabinet members accused CoE of doctoring the views it received from Kenyans.
The six who are unlikely to have acted without clearance by the President, given the sensitivity of the phase the review process has reached, were Vice President Kalonzo Musyoka, Deputy Prime minister Uhuru Kenyatta, Prof George Saitoti, Mutula Kilonzo, Kiraitu Murungi and Beth Mugo. Also most poignantly, Prof Kivutha Kibwana, who is the President’s direct advisor on constitutional reforms, attended Kalonzo’s news conference .
All these Cabinet members belong to PNU’s branch in the Coalition Management Committee and were expected to table their report to the PSC. The President’s party denounced the hybrid system saying, “We reject the mongrel hybrid (system) proposed in the draft which would be a recipe for conflict and chaos.”
But even as the dark cloud gathered over the constitution review exercise Prime minister Raila Odinga expressed optimism the country would have a new constitution by the end of the year.
The PM’s spoke before he met top members of his Orange party to respond to PNU’s insinuation CoE could have either been compromised or it acted at the behest of outsiders.
After the meeting ODM leaders denounced PNU’s stance, terming it an act of bad faith that undermines national efforts at consensus building on a new constitution.
The ODM press conference late last evening was addressed by its deputy leader Musalia Mudavadi at Raila’s office at Treasury Building in Nairobi. He said the party remained committed to a pure parliamentary system of Government as the best opportunity for an accountable Government as opposed to an imperial presidency.
CoE Chairman Nzamba Kitonga declined to be sucked into the unfolding controversy and advised the President’s side direct its concerns to the Parliamentary Select Committee which retreats to Naivasha on Monday to court political compromise on the contentious issues on the fresh draft.
“As it is now the only body that can handle any issues regarding the draft is PSC. PNU should consult it if they have any issues” said Kitonga.
He reminded Kenyans PSC comprises all parties.
Earlier at the burial of a former University of Nairobi don, Prof Katela ole Kantai in Ngong, Raila said: “2010 is the year for Kenya to have a new constitution, and those rubbishing the constitution making process have lost touch with the desires and needs of Kenyans which is the desire for a new constitutional dispensation.”
The PNU ministers, led by Kalonzo, dismissed the draft as “tragic” because in their view CoE ignored the views of 95 per cent of Kenyans who he claimed supported one centre of power with the holder being directly elected by the people.
He however did not disclose how the President’s party got hold of the statistics on which the high-profiled party wigs based their attack on CoE which the VP lambasted as having failed to honour it’s obligation as per the Act that established it to make public the views it received from Kenyans.
He then demanded that CoE produces all the views presented by Kenyans, which in the 30-day public debate alone CoE said it received 1.5 million submissions. He said: “The CoE should furnish PNU with the over a million public submissions and the Hansard records of its deliberation,” said Kalonzo
They launched the attack even as President Kibaki yet again promised the country this is the year of reforms and also cleared his diary of any other engagements to witness the swearing in of Judges of the Interim Independent Constitutional Dispute Resolution Court (IICDRC) on Friday at State House.
Final stages
PPS said in the statement on described the constitution review process as, “entering its final stages.”
The PNU group has since November maintained it would accept nothing short of a powerful institution of the Presidency. It dismissed the hybrid system of government proposed in the draft saying it creates two centres of power.
They further argue that a President who is directly elected by voters cannot cede his Executive powers to a PM chosen by the majority party in Parliament.
All along ODM welcomed the draft saying it will support whatever system Kenyans will vote for in the referendum.
ODM however prefers that the Constitution of Kenya Review Act be amended to provide for Yes-Yes vote on two drafts to enable Kenyans chose either the presidential or the parliamentary systems of government.
Members of Coalition Management Committee from both wings of the coalition have been meeting over the last three days to discuss a compromise, albeit separately.
In the first meeting Kibaki dispatched Uhuru to chair the PNU side while Raila opened the ODM sitting.
“It has now emerged that the CoE did not respect and take into consideration the views of Kenyans while reviewing the harmonized draft. It chose to ignore an overwhelming majority of the views of Kenyans,” Kalonzo claimed.
Public to decide
To fortify its position Kibaki side referred to CoE’s report of December 30, which read: “Whatever form is adopted, it is recommended that the Chief Executive should be elected by members of the public, whether it is a President, Prime Minister or both.”
The same view, Kalonzo pointed out, was replicated in a report that accompanied the Harmonised Draft on November 17, 2009, which said Kenyans wished to elect their president directly.
“After the findings, the CoE tragically maintained a draft in which the Chief Executive is the PM appointed by Parliament and not members of the public,” said Kalonzo.
Briefing the media after a meeting at Norfolk Hotel, Nairobi, Kalonzo said PNU still supports a presidential system with sufficient checks and balances that safeguard against abuse of power. Uhuru and Mutula are members of PSC.
The ministers also took issue with the Transition Clause claiming, it “was glossed over” by CoE. They argued that only provisions related to management of elections should be implemented while the new Constitution should take effect after the General Elections.
Raila also dismissed reports he had disagreed with Kibaki on the constitution review.
Shout out to Mr. Abonyo and Jelule!!!!
It has been along time since I read your posts..what is going on in your neck of the woods! I see now the constitution draft has moved from the original hybrid proposal to either “pure presidential or parliamentary system”. For emerging democracy, this is real progress for your country. At least, “Wanainchi” in your country will have options to choose from this constitution reform.
From where I am standing, I am leaning towards “pure Presidential system”. If PNU members are serious, and know what pure presidential system entails, I hope, by supporting presidential system, they will also accept “pure checks and balances” (aka) separation of powers. I wonder what will PNU members do when they discover that the system they are advocating for will not allow them to hold cabinet posts!!!!!!!!!.
In pure Presidential as practiced in the US and other countries, a cabinet minister or secretary cannot hold legislative post and cabinet office at the same time .
Yes, Mp can be appointed to the cabinet but he/she will have to resign his/her Mp posts..how many politicians in this country are willing to relinquish this current system for pure Presidential system???.
I strongly believe that the pure presidential system, if done right may be good for Kenya. These ministries now will be run/managed by outside experts, rather than the MPS, who may know nothing about the ministries they are is running, but were appointed based on patronage system!.
For change, pure presidential system will be good for this country because both President and the VP will represent the entire country, rather than dividing their loyalty to tribal district, and national office they hold.
The pure presidential system will allow MPs to focus on legislation, rather than moonlighting in cabinet ministries. The often cry by various tribes for not getting cabinet posts from the public will seize. The appointed/selected experts to run cabinet ministries will be approved or not approved by the selected legislators in the parliament.
If it is true that according nation 1/21/2010 that the constitution drafters have now settled on” pure Presidential system”..this is great news for Kenyans. The public should now wait to see the details specifically on how (SEPARATION OF POWERS will work). I suggest Kenyans pay attention to these areas: Executive ( President & VP), Judiciary (courts) and the Legislative branch( Senate/Lower chamber)
* Will judiciary branch be independent? Here I suggest, when the new system is up and running, the current and future judges must be resigned, be (re)appointed by the executive branch and be approved by the legislature. The constitution should decide and spell out whether judges appointed by the central /national government will serve for life in office or to term limit..
* If the legislature is going to have two chambers: How many terms can the upper chamber ( senate) serve? two 5 year terms limit or no term limit for Senators?. Will the Senators be elected directly from their: districts/provinces by the public?. How many Senators from each District/province? . Will the entire Senate get elected at the same time or one half can be elected for the first 5 year term..so there is continuity of experience in the chamber??.
*For the lower house, again, should there be term limit in office?..this constitution must spell out terms by which these representatives will be elected and serve. As in the US, the entire house or congress must be elected every two years..can Kenya afford to elect the lower house reps. every 5 years without term limit?.
* Selection of cabinet ministers will be born by the the President, but approval of these people to their posts must be done by the legislatures. If done right, the system will reduce patronage appointment to zero in the long run.
* Pure presidential system has the potential to grow political parties in this country. There will be no secret dealings by President awarding VP post in underground deals!. Both Presidential and VP candidates will be known in advance and they will run for national office in every district in the country.The areas in Kenya that have never..ever seen presidential candidate before will never be left out again!. Every region and vote will be crucial for those running for national office to meet electoral college requirements!
* How electoral college: by province and by population will work must be spelled out so marginal groups or areas don’t get short changed by the dominant tribes with higher population base.
* Coalition political parties can be formed but must be done way..way in advance … before the election, so the public knows who they are voting for in Presidential and VP election!. The constitution should spell also on how to deal with candidates who change parties after they have been elected by one party. If the rumors are true that Kenya is now settling on Presidential system…this is good news for your county..just pay attention to fine print in this document now!!!!!!!!!!