From: John Kamau
I have been seating on the fence watching this cabal of Raila sycophants fall all over themselves with envy and vitriolic mumble jumbo because one Ruto is not singing and dancing to their savior. When Raila went on a party wrecking spree prowling here scratching there and causing mayhem they were all praises to this young Rift Valley warrior. Today Ruto is a thief, corrupt tribalist who should be fired and sent to The Hague in a wooden box, shame on you cheer leaders. We made a mistake to replace Moi with a Moi in a different skin, When Raila led Kenyans to Elect Kibaki, now we are being told to make a worse mistake to Replace Kibaki with Evil. No is the answer to those scheming to destroy our country.
For those of you who thought, or think Raila was doing Kenya a favour in 2002, you are wrong. Raila was just repeating history, He is the modern day Charles Njonjo, like Njonjo Raila new how inept Kibaki would be easy to corn off leadership, but like Njonjo he was wrong. The only mistake IS Kenyans ends up paying for this greed. ALL I ask of my fellow Kenyans is to give Raila the same medicine we gave Njonjo, Confining him to eternal political oblivion.
I have no time for Ruto; But Rift Valley has qualified, clean politicians just like every other part of Kenya. I surely know Raila and his sugar coated poison, a million words of hate from his cronies can not convince me he is a Nationalist, Christian or pro West savior of mankind. To me Raila is who he is, a power hungry, and greedy evil person ready to sell his mother for a penny, if only to become Mr. President. He should be in Jail for all the murders he has aided from the 1982 coup to 2007 PEV, but this is Kenya where money has been the law and poverty the crime. Between himself and Asian business protection fee to Eastern MOU, Raila is making enough millions, monthly to buy Daily front page media coverage, and twice a week slots on Radio and TV houses. He can pay weekly sham polls depicting him as the most popular politician, but any one with little political knowledge can see that its pay day for this green serpent.
Why do we have to worry about Abortion in our constitution? Why do we have to entrench one religion in our constitution? Why do we have to spend time debating same sex marriages? Is this what God wants for a country that has been redeemed from the precipices of disaster miraculously time and again?? Time has come for Kenyans to pray and shun divisive political rhetoric. If Ruto was good for Kenya when he supported Raila to Murder innocent Kenyans all in the name of a botched Election, he is good when he wants to save Kenya from destruction. You can cheat some of the people some of the times but you can not cheat all the people all the time.
Who ever told Raila you can live by the sword and die by the Gun was wrong. No amount of money can save Raila from self destruction, of course a long with his cheer leaders. My prayer is that Kenya will demonstrate the resilience we are known for, to stand up and prove the pundits wrong by rising to the occasion when the time to call the cards is up.
Mr. Kamau which side of the bed did you wake up in today???. On one side you are saying that ” …Kenyans should shun political rhetoric” and from your ass and mouth you are spewing the hatred that your are asking fellow Kenyans to shun. Where were you when your boy Njonjo and Kenyatta were terrorizing and plundering this country to oblivion. Who are you kidding here?.. Are you throwing Njojo’s name to justify your personal attack on Mr. Oginga that you are objective. Deep down when you asking ..”fellow Kenyans to give Mr. Odinga the same medicine…given Njonjo”. I don’t know what Kenyans you are calling on but your tribe!.
Where are the facts to back up your name calling and hyperbole statements against Odinga?. You are one man cheer leader with these non factual charges against your fellow country. As been said many times … one may be entitiled to his/her opinion but not own facts. You don’t help your argument when you accuse Mr. Odinga with “..murdering people from 1982 in the failed coup without evidence. Can you point us to court documents or any public documents that shows that this man was involved in this coup?. Can you tell exactly Mr. Oginga is paying pols and buying influence with media houses in this country????????.
You remember a minute ago I told you that you may be entitiled to your own opinion but not to your on facts. If you don’t believe in pols that shows Oginga is the most popular politicians in Kenya this is your problem!. You may want to comssion your own pols or use the pols that show him to be the most hated politician in Kenya!!!!!!!!!
Election chaos and deaths were bad for this country regardless of which region they did happen. You must be smoking or drinking something when you say ….only supporters of Oginga were killing people in the name of ..stolen election”. To mentioned a few places, were Oginga’s supporters in Nakuru and Naivasha where many people were believed to have lost their lives?????????
I bet if your accusation against Mr. Oginga on election killings are right, we will soon see his name among the 20 leaders of this mayhem according Mr. Ocampo at ICC…until then keep your demented charges to your self.
You problem with Mr. Oginga based are baseless and rooted on the ” elephant in the room..in your case the elephant in this country” Your accusation and hatred towards Mr. oginga is purely native/tribal. Your talking points of ” power, hungry,…would sell his mother, greedy, evil, dictator..were all used by your tribal leaders during 2007 election. To repeat the same words and charges does not make them true against Mr. Oginga but to expose where you are coming from!!!.
I wish some one of your caliber could come up with objective analysis of all Kenya politicians rather than resorting to name calling and TRIBAL POLITICS which you are doing here in your article.Good luck to you and your hatred soul …may be this new constitution will bring Kenyans together without nonsense like yours.
MR KAMAU
No one will ever attempt to force Raila on Kenyans, neither will Kenyans force themselves on Raila. If you dont like him, fine but dont cook up stories and baseless allegations to drive hate for Raila.
Just what are your fears? Raila is a leader and he may have his weaknesses, but not as you ethnocentircally put it. You can still follow your toad Kibaki, or Kabando wa Kabando because the thinking in your backyard prevents you from an objective evaluation of anything or anyone who comes from the other side of the bridge. Remember Raila won 2007 elections without your votes and he can still do it.
You can raise Kenyatta from the dead to come and succedd Kibaki, you can extend Kibaki’s term or you can elect Jimmy SINCE only that will make you satisfied.
PS. Bwana Kamau some additional thoughts/comments on your accusation of Mr. Oginaga and his cheer leaders!. How a bout modern Kenyatta?, how about yesterday Moi comparisons???. When will you and your elk administer the same medicine you you gave to Njonjo to Moi or to J. Kenyatta oh.. he is dead!. You accused Mr. Oginga of killing people, being evil..he should be locked up in jail!. Let us open some historical political assasination/killing wounds in this country that you conveniently forgot to mention.
Through out the sixties when your boy Kenyatta and Njonjo were at the helm of power in this country both TJ Mboya and JM Karioki were brutally killed, did evil Odinga took part in these deaths???????. Kenyans knows how Kenyatta did bang job to bring the killers of these great leaders to justice (in gist) If you can’t remember the sixties, let me remind you recent killings of Dr. Ouko. How is the investigation death of Ouko going???? . Again, was the evil Oginga aparty to Dr. Oukos’ death??????? . What kind of evil killer is this Mr. Odinga to let this deaths goes without his participation!!!!!
Based on your convoluted logic, to say that …”Kenyans made mistake by replacing Moi with Moi” is beyond belief. You seem to be saying that Mr. Kibaki and his administration is the same or worse than Moi’s 24 year rule in this country!. What has Mr. Kibaki done to earn this comparison repute?. How /chambers for political prisoners located in this country under Kibakis watch????? . You cannot compare Kibaki and his administration with Kenyatta or Moi !!!. I say to you Sir. Kenya did not make mistake to replace Kbaki with Moi. Under Kibakis watch, multi-party politics is thriving in Kenya, freedom of speech/media which you and I are enjoying now has more than blossom!, . Most of all Kenya is in the brink of ushering in new constitution, the free enterprise economy is hamming along. Yes, Kibaki leadership sometimes leaves out alot to be desired but so what there is always room for improvement and leadership is NOT easy!
Lastly but not least, your warning of ..replacing Kibaki with that…evil Odinga confuses the hell out me!. I wish you can take off your tribal cap to accept/embrace multi-party politics and emerging Democracy in this country. Name calling which is your forte and primary gist of your article will not move this country forward. This country is more than the: Kibakis , Odingas, the Rutos, the Kenyattas, the Mois..and the rest!!!. For your country to move forward politically and economically, hero warship, tribal politics and name calling must go!!!! Good day and Good luck!!!!
MR. JD BROWN,
MR. RAILA HIMSELF, SAID HE WAS PART OF THE COUP, HE PROUDLY, STATED THAT HE WAS ONE OF THE ORGANIZERS. CHECK THE FACTS!
REFER TO THE PAPERS OF AUGUST,2009! HE HELD MEETINGS ON NGONG ROAD ABODE. PLANNING AND DIRECTING THE COUP!
IT HELPS IF YOU DO NOT INSULT PEOPLE, YOU ARE DESTROYING REASON AND MATURITY WITH VULGARISM.
RAILA, URGED SUPPORTERS TO GET OUT AND FIGHT KIBAKI, AFTER THE 2007 ELECTIONS, THE RESULT WAS MURDER AND MAYHEM.
WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AFTERMATH OF THE 2007, ELECTIONS? NOT THE LEADER?
TEKERE JELULE
Mr. Kamau I will not assume that you are kikuyu, based on your name, but because your arguments are replicas of what the hateful kikuyu cliques generically said about luo politicians. I must say at this point that very many kikuyus I know rise above the petty kikuyu via luo dead end politics. There are also luos on their side of the divide bearing those self imposed burdens. A clique whose views you represent is stuck to that nonsense.
I never thought there will come a time that I will agree, at least in part, to those who planned or executed the abortive coup in 1982. The regime of the day closed the road to social justice. There was zero democratic space in the land. The rogue state security operatives, the special branch police, tortured any body who questioned the oppressive leadership at whim. Hope to change by peaceful means was diminished. It was therefore morally justifiable to seek regime change even by use of arms. That means Mr. Kamau that there were those in the land that were prepared to pay the ultimate price that the rest may have expanded democratic space. That should not be very hard to understand, Mr. Kamau, at another time a small group of peasants, with nothing but simis chose to face the British might in Kenya and die but hope that sometime in the future posterity will be spared the indignity of beberu arrogance. Kenyans remain forever indebted to those peasants. You may remember them as MAUMAU. If Raila was associated in anyway to those who stood ready to face the might of Moi regime, a continuation of Kenyatta’s despotic regime, then Raila is a better man than I have always regarded him.
Kamau, I am very happy to bring it to your attention that you are an endangered type of Kenyan. A new breed of Kenyans are already there soon to enter the political stage that will carry this land to its natural height, based only on the integrity of character, not tribe. I dare you Mr. Kamau. I double dare you to stand on the path of that must come change and see yourself scorch to extinction.
Brother Jelule:
It is scarsim in political discussion/debate. Please, don’t take his “double talk” on his accusations to Mr. Odinga in the article. I know how your feel about Mr. Odinga per our past discussion on Mau eviction policy. Yes, we did agree to disagree which is a civil way of settling political debates or policies disagreements between the parties.
African politicians often talks in metaphors..Oginga is not exception on this one but the norm. What was the conrext which Oginga was making this statement?????. When I was asking Mr. Kamau to back up his accusations, I was looking for legal evidence NOT hear say or non legal oath statements. Please, if you are objective and open minded, you would agree with me that Kamaus’ charges lack stronger evidence than what he has provided so far!
When you say ” Raila urged supporters to get out and fight Kibaki”. Some may also say the “government sent the police” to kill innocent people who did not agree with the out come of the election and have the right to express their feelings in public demonstration”.
There is good chance that the ” word fighting Kibaki” was metaphor for resisting the outcome from the his point of view, BUT NOT TO MURDER PEOPLE.. For you or for anyone to carry this metaphoric statement to election killings is weak argument. Again, I am sorry if you did not get some of my take “in gist”. God gave us two ends: one to think with and the other one to sit on..you can guess which one we use the most when we throw out these accusations without facts!!!!!!!!!!
In my opinion, no one person was responsible for the election chaos of 2007. Your government failed you!. From your political leaders down to election officials, your country and the public were let down by these officials. In the meantime, I will give you the benefit of doubt for now on ” 2007 election..Murder and Mayhem” that you are contributing to Mr. Oginga. But I would also urge you to wait and see the 20 names on the envelope at ICC.
If Mr. Oginga’s name is among them, your accusation will be validated and I will be the first one to let you know! Good day.
It seems everyone has forgotten 2007.
There was a beautiful advert by PNU “DOMO DOMO….”
Is there anything wrong when Kamau airs his opinions? No!
Anything wrong when Mr. X and Y air their opinions? No either!
Well, Mr. Kamau, hate it or not, please, swallow your pride and stop branding people names. You ought to have explicitly stated exactly whom did Odinga/Raila kill with evidences.
You talk of 1981 coup attempt:
If you are a bible student, I would refer you to David – Goliath battle. David killed, Goliath as well killed.
Now can we wholesomely brand David a murderer who should never have justice of the Lord? No. Can we wholesomely brand Goliath a murder of evil people who never deserved justice of the Lord? No!
What am I driving at? There are some necessary evils. I concur with you at one time Raila himself did say he was part of the coup, but it was necessary so that democracy could be brought back. Remember in this case, he had a cause, whether it was justified by God, let God judge him and not you and me and even a third party.
Finally, learn to respect other tribes. I am because You Are and You Are because I AM, so we need each other. If you maintain your stand, you will be like a coin with tail and no head – thereby being ILLEGAL TENDER
And…. If you are not satisfied, and convinced the son of Odinga is a murder, please go and record a statement with the Kenya Police. They will arrest him, investigate the matter and the courts will judge –
Arreddo Nyang’
While you people are concentation on the politics of “Tribalism in Kenya”, Paul Kagame is being groomed by the western corporations to be the leader of the pack for all countries in East Africa including the countries in the Congo Basin.
It does not matter who is or will be the president in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Burundi or Democratic Republic of Congo, all will be reporting to Paul Kagame. He is going to be commanding forces to quell any uprising anywhere in Great Lakes region. He is being groomed to be the “Top Dog”! The western powers and corporations can count on him to protect their interests!
So, be prepared, the new bosss will be in town soon!
Guy,
Too much hate will kill you..
raila is a devilish hypocrite who would use anything to try to stay on top.Look at odm,he cant allow any luo mp in nyanzaland to run on any other party.He wants everybody to be his sycophant,
“Raw african blood” – Charamba
True Brother,Raila is just a common thief and murderer who deserves to be LYNCHED.