http://blog.jaluo.com/?p=652
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:38:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: ndebele okoth
Subject: SHOULD BEING A LUO MUST EQUALS EXTREME POVERTY IN KENYA ?
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Mr. Okoth and the rest,
I personally sometimes do write in luo language to enter deep into our luo elites, but I will apologise now for using the foreign language called Kiengeressa when I am talking to my fellow jokanyanam.
I do personaly believe that Real power must be taken , NOT given; In all the great developments or success on earth here, where great development has been achieved, things are done like that. So this stupid thing you are speaking like should being a luo must equal extreme poverty does not add up and that is abusing the whole of luo land. It is just like waking up and speaking what James Watson said that all blacks are stupid and inferior to whites which we know is NOT TRUE. Luos do have this thing called social communism, like Harambee business, `wako ji mar doyo`, gero ot`or gero simba together etc. But this has gone too deep and some of our people have not realized that in the real world there is a very stiff competition. Luos should just wake up and walk straight on two feet or if you have one get a stick and go to the bank and take a loan just as all other tribes are doing and start something for yourself.
We luos are lucky that most of us are linked to a specific land somewhere in luo land, but this will not be fore ever, since some of luos are too greedy and are trying to sell luolands to foreigners bit by bit and in the long run we luos will be just like kikuyus who does not have land in central provinces. So bringing developments into luo land are not bad, BUT make sure that the locals do gain and gain in a big way that is when it is called DEVELOPMENT, OR ADVANCMENT.
This thing ODM and PNU has done is not real power but we hope they bring us new constitution which will also address the so called foreign investors act and under which term you do business in luoland.
Somebody said these words` THE ONLY THING WE SHALL FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF`….. I DO THINK THAT REAL POWER MUST BE TAKEN, NOT GIVEN.
I will leave you with those: Paul Nyandoto
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Date:Â Tue, 06 May 2008 17:56:29 +0300
From:Â Paul Nyandoto
Subject:Â Vs: Real power MUST be taken NOT given
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Okoth
I agree with some of the things you have mentioned in this forum about Dominion Farms. However, those teething issues which need addressing should be looked into in order for the project / investment to have full confidence of the local community.Â
Your encouragement of Luos to invest is good but when you use phrases such as ‘Odera Kango to come from the grave’ to realise any meaningful investment, one wonders whether you do really acknowledge and recognise the milestones made by Luos in the last 10 years to develop themselves and Luoland for that matter. I agree there is a lot to be done but at the same it is important to recognise the current efforts and work people have put in, in order to bring development to our people. I believe things are changing for the better.
Regards
Dick Aduonga
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Date:Â Tue, 6 May 2008 16:39:23 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
From:Â “kesol@ . . .
Subject:Â Re: SHOULD BEING A LUO MUST EQUALS EXTREME POVERTY IN KENYA ?
I totally disagree with on this topic, you should be made to understand that a people cannot develop when they do not have the goodwill from the government.
From independence, the regimes have been anti luos because of the political stand we took and on this note let me salute the true luo leaders who have stood with us at all times not Tujus, Amayos,Ndolos etc.
The only thing that our beloved jakom, prime minister, captain should do is dop adress the poverty either by wooing foreign investors in luo land period. The next thing is that any chance for employment should be given to young graduates not political rejects from luo land who always rush to press conferences when ever Raila calls for one.
Ne Jo-Winam Jimbo !
Aparo ni weche makelo mbaka e wach ni ne ochakore gi duoko na kaber mondo Joluo majo miganga okaw asoya kuom joma okelo weche mag ohala e Jimbo wa.
Koro daher mondo sama waluwo weche Migosi Nyadondo kod Migosi Aduongo to wang’e kaka weche ne ochakore.
Mani ekaka ne weche obiro e duol ka:
I am not trying to threated anyone but I will maintain that it is unlawful for an individual to seek US $ 12 000 bribe from an investor to defend legal investment enacted by the Parliament laws such as Dominion Farms.
In addition many people do not understand that in the Canada/USA/EU it is illegal for investors to bribe their way to invest anywhere in the world, by doing such would subject them to criminal prosecution.
Dominion Farms went though all the government process to have the project installed and therefore it is upon the government to protect all its investment initiatives from detractors and schemers such as Odhiambo Oketch and Owalla.
Nyanza and Kisumu City investment opportunities:
Right now in Kisumu even the boda boda bicycles, bikes, tug-tug and taxis are own by the Asians/Kikuyus/Kissis. The rental houses in Kisumu belongs to the Asians/Kikuyus/Kissi, motels and Hotels entrainment joints are mostly own by the outsiders.
Every Sunday Asians/Kikuyus/Kissi drive large trucks full of merchandise and food stuff to Kisumu-Kibuye markets for sales to luos consumers, while the entire shops in Nyanza are owned by the Asians/Chinese/Kikiyus/Kissis.
While luos residing in other parts of Kenya, majority are laborers working in tea or coffee farms in Central or Rift Valley.
In the major cities luos are the occupants of the inhumane slams shanties and laborers in all the Industrial areas in Nairobi, Mombasa and Nakuru.
The recent post election violence should have been a lesson but it seems it will take someone like “Odera Kango to come from the grave” to have luos set up new development agenda.
The worse enemy of luos are the luos themselves. The late Roudh Goro, Mzee Adala Otuko, once told me that late Kenyatta thwarted the Luo Thrift Trade Union and made a secret economy policy that “BEING A LUO MUST EQUALS EXTREME POVERTY” .
Did the late Adala bought that ? NO ! NO ! He and the late Jaramogi believe that luoland is sleeping economical giant and will one day wake up to take its roll in Kenyan economical power. However, it will take luos to dying to themselves to bring about such dream to a reality.
My team here in diaspora will continue seeking major investments to the luoland and no amount of intimidation will stop us from economically transforming the luoland. Any attempt will be met with an equal defensive mechanism.
Meanwhile, I will urge the luos to start just with any small investments such as boda boda bicycles, bikes, tug-tug, taxis and matatu.
Jothurwa, weche to be jowa ose wacho ndi, to koro sani wan e loch kar ka joma goyo koko otemie okelie investment moko wakony godo luo. Penjo: SHOULD BEING A LUO MUST EQUALS EXTREME POVERTY IN KENYA ?
Rev Okoth Otura
you article is biased, parochlial and lack merit, majority of Luos are educated and leave in upmarket in Narobi and thus I totally disgaree with your augument that poverty is not synonymous with Luos. Some of the top brains in the global are Luos like me who work in the most prestigious UN agencies in the globe and we do not belive in the government of the day in Kenya unless there is real democratisation and equitable distribution of resources.Educated Luos like do not care about Kenya, coz we leave any where in Globe as we leave mugiki top terorize fellow kikuyus
Luos have the brains and I do not think that Boda boda is anything to advice luos to concentrate on , past regimes have made luos to be poor but we have the brains like me, I do not believe working in working for govt is intersetingand fancy to ……………revolutiuon in the offing and Luos gonna rule Kenya soon
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u cant be poor when u own technology in all relevant fields. Translate luo into modern technolological language such that a teenager can describe to ”dan gi” an ailment in a language she can understand. If u study japanese, or chinese, u will see what i mean. Traditional words are the same but tecnical words are japanized from german or english wholesale. This process is cultural revoution
The luo region is economically backward because of 2 major factors
1. bad politics: politician think on behalf of the community. this means that people recieve promises which are never fulfilled. this is brought by the fact that you get elected to parliament coz you swear allegiance to a PARTICULAR PERSON
2. Superstition: people believe too much in witchcraft to an extent you cannot build a nice house to avoid being bewitched. This is a setback because rich luos live in rented houses all their lives in nairobi even though they are capable of building their own homes to which they can settle aftre retirement.