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MASS POISIONING

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Wanakazi,

since I put this email out I have received tremendous response from readers in this forum and I hasten to say encouraging but deeply disturbing responses.

Encouraging because some of the response has come from very senior medical practitioners from within and without Kenya who have been and are still trying to promote good practice in lines with the expected code of conduct and professional oath that the medics swear to, when they are initiated to join other practitioners . It is however very disturbing to note the following:

There is no proper or such thing as regulations regarding control and distribution of drugs…. in-fact there is half a page on what you need/requirements to register a pharmacy

The few medics who are making efforts to instill some professionalism in the sector are extremely frustrated by the arrogance displayed by the board executives

Drug inspectors are in the business of taking kitu kidogo to allow counterfeits into our health service.

Mass poisoning through the health service has been going on in Kenya for a very long time and the executives in the sector are so complacent that they have adopted the attitude of take whatever action you wish and see how far you can go!!

As it stands many cases go unreported and even if anybody was to attempt doing so, there is no workable mechanism of doing it. The existing scanty regulations are never enforced because the practice environment is not conducive.

Something must be done to save Kenyans. If medics cannot live up to their oath of ethics then they have no business being in this noble profession.

There are several diaries coming up involving the medics in Kenya, if anybody in this forum has an experience to share with reference to bad practice in the health service then you are invited to forward the information. Your information could form part of very high level discussions in the medical sector.

I have copied the Pharmacy Board.

Thank you all,

Paul

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POOR CONTROL OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS COULD BE SENDING MANY KENYANS TO THEIR GRAVES TOO EARLY.

Every time you visit a doctor or a pharmacist in Kenya you could be paying for your ticket to early reception at the grave. When I was last back home in Kenya, I noticed
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: PAUL ODERA
Subject: MASS POISIONING

Karua, Kibaki Confused in the Resettlement Scheme-Bound to Fail

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Sometimes adults who call themselves leaders dont just get it..especially with this resettlement process.We are taling about National Reconciliation and healing while people like Martha Karua and Kibaki still insist that those arrested during the post election violence must be prosecuted and at teh same time calling for national healing and reconciliation.These two things dont go together my brothers and sisters..and mark you we have NOT prosecuted the MAIN electoral THIEF..who is sitting in some big house..and mark you we have NOT prosecuted Samuel Kivuitu who bangled these elections..To Add salt to injury Kivuitu is still earning TAX PAYERS money as the Chairman of ECK..What a shame fellow Kenyans…

For the IDPs resettlement to succeed the following must be done:
1.All those arrested during post election violence must be freed unconditionally..what is reconciliation? what is healing? Do Karua and Kibaki think that you can jail young kalenjins in Riftvalley and at the same time ask their mothers and fathers to live like sisters and brothers with resettled Kikuyus?..This is the reality that we have to face..we have to make hard choices here..

2.Dialogue with Kalenjin elders..you can never force resettlement because police stations dont give people security..what give people security is living with neigbors who understand you and know that their future is tied to yours..peacefull co-existence cannot be policed…Kalenjin elders muts be involved in the resettlement process.

3.Resettle too the kalenjins who were evicted from Mau Forest..they too are human being and part of the recnciliation process..Kimunya once said that thier title deeds were mere pieces of paper..Now we are forgetting that and thinking that some lives are more important than others..Lets get real and deal with real people with real problems..

Best regards fellow Kenyans…

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:30:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: owinga bonfas
Subject: Karua, Kibaki Confused in the Resettlement Scheme-Bound to Fail

The Role of Progressive Kenyans

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It is my believe that most Kenyans all they want is a stable, peaceful and a prosperous nation. These are the Kenyans I am referring as progressive. Let us then gage our leaders with what they are going to achieve since we have so many problems afflicting us.

Both Raila and Kalonzo have very powerful positions let us now gage them on how much development they bring. How many Harambees they hold. How many schools, health centers and Youth Vocational centers they build or equip. How much effort they make to bring the Kenyan people together and how much they preach peace and unity.

Let us as progressive Kenyans support them whenever they engage on the above ventures and let us desist from insulting them and demeaning them, sometimes you get what you expect from people.

Let me remind Kenyans again and again it does not matter which tribe a president come from so long as the president holds the principles of peace, unity and development. Everybody will stand to gain, but if a president is divisive and retrogressive nobody will stand to benefit including his own family. How many of you have uncles or relatives in high places and they cannot meet with you leave alone help you? Many. So I beg you people to start demanding performance and character.

Now those who do not see my point ask yourself this question we have 90 ministers and assistant ministers that means every tribe has an appointee have that increased sufurias of food in your homestead? Have that given you a job if you are jobless? Have that given you school fees or scholarship if you are a student? Have that brought you a tarmac road to your town or farm? Have that brought you electricity to your house? Have that made you afford the high cost of food and living? Now may that drive sense to the most thick skull.

Now the last and the most important thing of all, we must stop insulting, fighting, injuring and killing one another because of a politician or politics. That is the most stupid thing a human being can do. You fight, injure and kill one another for people who dine together, drink together and fly together. What kind of an imbecile are you? The word has to go around and be preached that fighting, injuring one another or killing one another for a politician or for politics is the most useless idiotic and senseless thing anything calling itself a higher mammal can do.

Nkuraya

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: charles nkuraya
Subject: The Role of Progressive Kenyans

Re: Demystifying the Pecking Order

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— On Mon, 4/28/08, People Foundation wrote:

Demystifying the Pecking Order

The debate about who is second in command is a testimony of monstrous confusion and ignorance within the ranks and file of the 10th Parliament. This is a debate that is absolutely unnecessary yet it is nerve whacking. If the National Accord which has been entrenched in the Constitution created a coalition government in with two centers of power, then, it is clear even to a caveman that the Prime Minister has one wing of the executive branch of government, and two deputy prime ministers who share equally the second in command position of that wing of the executive government. Similarly, the President has the other wing of the executive power, thus, the Vice President is the bona fide second in command in as far as the presidency is concerned. This is not rocket science.

We get concerned when the likes of Prof. Anyang Nyong fail to provide a balanced perspective about the power sharing between the Prime Minister and the President. For Prof Anyang Nyong to provide a constradictory perspective by stating that ODM party leader Raila Odinga who is the PM is an equal to President Kibaki and there is no way he will ever come below a Vice-President (http://www.eastandard.net/news) indicates that he is in lalaland of confusion. All Kenyans with exception of Prof. Anyang Nyong do know that Kalonzo Musyoka who is the Vice President of Kenya does not belong to the executive government wing of headed by Raila Odinga who is the Prime Minister. So, the issue of second in command does not arise at all. The Vice President is not accountable to the Prime Minister but to the President, and therefore his is rightfully second in command. The President can delegate executive powers to the vice president. The Prime Minister can delegate executive power related to the office of the prime minister to the Deputy Prime Ministers who are second in command on that wing of executive government. What is all this bickering by ODM and PNU hardliners about?

However, it is important to note that Hon Kalonzo Musyoka as a Minister of Home Affairs is under the direct authority of the Prime Minister, but on national matters that touch on the powers and authority vested on him by the President; he is answerable to the president and therefore, remains the second in command. Let it be known by all that in the absence of the President, the Vice President would act in that capacity. Similarly, this constitutional pecking order does not encroach on the Prime Minister at all.

We are asking our elected members to acquaint themselves with the fine details of the current structure of the coalition government and act in the best interest of peace and reconciliation and avoid creating acrimonious issues where there no issues. It is so sad to see the supposed to be learned friends display this level of ignorance.

comments at : http://secondincommanddebate.blogspot.com/

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People Foundation, Inc,
Social Transformation Advocacy Group
775 River Oaks Parkway
San Jose, CA 95136

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Date: Monday, April 28, 2008, 3:46 PM
From: People Foundation
Subject: Demystifying the Pecking Order

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The cave men seem to know the difference more.

I normally say that we have to be honest to achieve peace, tranquility and reconciliation. There is nothing monstrous nor confusing about the pecking order. And for you to claim ignorance, then, you must be the outer space.

The Accord that gave Kibaki and Raila equal powers was signed in broad day light, in the presence of many cameras, and in public. The Accord was signed at the same time, seated side by side, by two men; Raila Odinga and Mwai Kibaki.

Kalonzo Musyoka did not sign anything.

Then, the accord was witnessed by Kofi Annan and Jakaya Kikwete, again, seated side by side. If one want to be honest, then he must have seen this. But if one is from outer space, or is bent on creating mischief, he might choose to miss this rather obvious pecking order.

There is simply no way Kalonzo will ever be senior to Raila in any pecking order. If I were Kalonzo, I would really be concerned with the perception Kenyans are developing that Kalonzo is indeed a traitor.

Kalonzo must hence be fair to himself. Kenyans overwhelmingly rejected his bid to become our president. And if he does not accept this fact, maybe he needs to talk with Kivuitu to tell him exactly how many votes he got, leave alone what he was added by his friends.

Secondly, if he professes the Christian faith, he must practice reality. Reality is such that he is last in the pecking order, and the sooner he accepts this, the better it will be for his next bid, if he will have the courage to face Kenyans after betraying their aspirartions.

Oto

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: odhiambo okecth
Subject: Re: Demystifying the Pecking Order

CENTRA BANK OF KENYA AND THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL

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Dear Sir,

The Central Bank of Kenya (CBK), must not acqure the Grand Regency Hotel with a view to include it in their balance sheet but to sell it as a reposessed item for debt recovery.

The role of CBK as stipulated in the CBK Act is to formulate and implement monetary policy that should be directed to maintain stability in general price levels in Kenya.

It’s other principal objective is to foster liquidity, solvency and proper functioning of a stable based financial system.

In the case of the Grand Regency Hotel, the bank acted ultra vires by advancing the sum of Kshs2.5billion to Uhuru Highway Development in the 1990s. The unclear events then implicated and involved the Goldenberg, Messers Paul Kamlesh Patni, many other people alive and some who have since passed on. The court cases and legal battles that have compounded all these are within public knowledge and recent history.

Now the CBK have taken possession of the prestigeous hotel in Nairobi.

The bank must therefore sell it off expeditiously as a reposesed item and not factor it as an asset in their books of accounts.

CBK is a monetary monetary policy regulator and has no business owning the hotel.It also has no capacity to run business.

The earlier the item is put on sale to recover the Kshs.2.5bn. and related expenses the better.

Felix Owaga Okatch

tel: 254-721-735489

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: felix okatch
Subject: CENTRA BANK OF KENYA AND THE GRAND REGENCY HOTEL

Re: Is it really a crime? ; British Parliamentary Laws – Archaic???

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Dear Angaluki,

What you’re saying is very interesting and I appreciate your insight into this matter of selective application of the law. At the end of the day, it’s about the big money corporations pay local authorities to have their bill-boards erected. Too bad if it makes the environment ugly. In some countries bill-boards have been banned for this precise reason – they spoil the skyline and distract drivers.

Let’s hope one day someone will get round to scrapping outdated laws. But, equally important, the time has come for us all to start caring more about our environment. An integral part of the environment is Health and Safety. Has anyone noticed the “Adopt-a-light” ad on a lamp-post on Moi Avenue (near campus) that actually blocks the traffic lights? Our city fathers need to ensure safety, and aesthetics (who’s in charge of the Beautification Programme?) before letting people erect their billboards and publicity boards/lights etc.

Liz

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:14:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: ELIZABETH WACHIRA
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

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Hi Arnett,

There was no law that you broke by reading your novel in the matatu (I believe). But here is my take though regarding your incident with the law enforcer: I think he was making a pass on you but in a more intelligent and being modest about it too..Just a thought..

Good day

Odawa

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:13:07 +0300
From: larry odawa
Subject: RE: Is it really a crime?

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Well… some of these laws are very antique and outdated…sample this: In Nanyuki town, there is a by-law enacted in 1949 which bars female donkeys from the town following an indecent ‘kinky’ experience that informed the proponents of this law….tongue in cheek. You can read an excerpt from a Nation feature……

Simon Wachira

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:22:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Simon Wachira
Subject: Fwd: Is it a crime? In Nanyuki, female donkeys are barred from Town….read

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Nanyuki stands across the Equator at the foot of the snow-capped Mt Kenya on the Great North Road. If you have the spirit for it, you could travel up this road to Ethiopia and further on to Egypt.

The town is also home to the rare sweet trout fish thriving in the crystal clear waters of the streams and rivers flowing down the mountain. It is the base for mountaineers challenging the imposing Mt Kenya and also serves as a railway terminus.

On market days donkeys – beasts of burden – move the farm produce from the surrounding farmlands. Three or two donkeys are usually harnessed to a single cart packed with sack-loads of grains, potatoes, beans and vegetables.

Nanyuki suffers from settler hangover. There is a by-law enacted in 1949 which bars female donkeys from the town. The town, and its not far-off neighbours of Rumuruti and Nyahururu, were important administrative centres in the White Highlands that also embraced semi-arid plains extending from the Nyeri Valley to the then Dorobo reserves of Samburu District.

The settlers had extensive ranches and wheat fields. They had a railway line with a terminus at Nanyuki to ferry their produce to Nairobi and Mombasa for export. “Natives” tilled the land and looked after the thousands of livestock on the ranches.

Any behaviour that was “indecent” to the memsahibs (white ladies) provoked reactions that led to extreme consequences. With this kind of puritanism, it was hardly surprising that the settlers decided to discipline the town’s donkeys for putting one memsahib in an embarrassing situation as the “natives” watched.

The memsahib was carrying her purchases from a shop to the car. In the vicinity, a female donkey was on heat and two males were attempting to mount her.

The white lady’s attention was drawn by the commotion. She stood petrified, watching the action. Then she collapsed – either from shock or excitement, or both. The matter reached the ears of the authorities and within days, a by-law was tabled before the civic council for deliberation.

The accusation against the donkeys was so overwhelming that the famous by-law of 1949 banning female donkeys in Nanyuki was passed unanimously. It is a by-law that current civic leaders strongly believe should continue in force. And the local residents agree.

Deputy Mayor James Wamai, a Nanyuki resident 37 years, remembers vividly an incident that took place in 1971. A trader had bought a female donkey and on his way home passed through Nanyuki where he stopped to have lunch. He tethered the donkey to a tree as he ate his lunch.

The poor fellow was unaware of the 1949 by-law. His donkey brayed, and since the beasts of burden have a strange way of talking to each other, the town’s 20 males heeded the female’s loud and clear call.

They galloped wildly, scaring people as they dragged the carts along. Some took short-cuts, pulling their carts over open drains and trenches. The carts overturned as the donkeys hurried on, freeing themselves as the harnesses tore off.

Wamai recalls: “The donkeys broke free and were chasing the female donkey through the town streets into the business premises. They caused so much chaos in the town that residents would not like to see a repeat of what happened. As long as there are no female donkeys in the town, the male ones will keep the peace.”

The long and the short of it is that three days later, the female donkey died. For the owner, the worst was yet to come. The authorities invoked the 1949 by-law and the owner of the animal was charged, found guilty and fined Sh500. As if that was not enough, he was ordered to bury the animal.

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Subject: RE: Is it really a crime?

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This is truly a sad situation. I have never bothered to check what gender the few donkeys I see in a village ahead of Nyeri High Scool and Kamwenja Teachers College (it is called Kihuyo and it is where I call shagz) are as they carry H2o from one farm to another. Scared cat that I am since I heard a tale of one mule bitting a male due to excessive aggresssion (thrashings) from the man!!!!

*This is discrimination, the males should be castrated….*

This tale equals the directive in Limuru last year to have donkeys put on nappies!!! These *kanjuras* are just too idle….

Am laughing as I picture the chaos in Nanyuki, Wananchi running from mules chasing one feline all over the one lane that is the town!!!

heeheehhhhaaaa…..

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:16:18 +0300
From: Arnette Wambaire
Subject: Re: Is it a crime? In Nanyuki, female donkeys are barred from Town….read

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about the flag guys get arrested wee u must respect the sanctity of our flag symbol i mean without it there was no freedom ffrom the colonial yoke

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:47:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: john mbuthi
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

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Act of Parliament, 1670

Be it resolved that all women, of whatever age, rank, profession, or degree; whether virgin maids or widows; that shall after the passing of this Act, impose upon and betray into matrimony any of His Majesty’s male subjects, by scents, paints, cosmetics, washes, artificial teeth, false hair, Spanish wool, iron stays, hoops, high-heeled shoes, or bolstered hips, shall incur the penalty of the laws now in force against witchcraft, sorcery, and such like wrongdoing, and that the marriage, upon conviction, shall stand null and void.

Currently under British law, a Catholic explicitly cannot become Prime Minister. Thankfully women aren´t barred per se…..just Catholic women! Of course if a Catholic was every likely to be elected Prime Minister they would change the law in parliament but it just shows you how out of date the British system is on some issues.

Not long ago, Ireland had two articles in its Constitution which stated that Northern Ireland (part of the UK) was rightfully part of the Irish state. This obviously really annoyed the British Government and the then Prime Minister Ted Heath remarked to Irish Prime Minister Liam Cosgrave something along the lines of “We have to do something about this Constitution,” Cosgrave, not the wittiest of men normally, replied “I know, don´t worry, we´ll give you one.” Heath, the Prime Minister of the “Mother of all Parliaments” was not amused to say the least…..But it is crazy that the UK does not have a Constitution and the resulting power that rests in the hands of the Law Lords is ridiculous.

“And you shall seek me, and find me, when you shall search for me with all your heart”
Jeremiah 29:13

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:25:21 +0100 (BST)
From: Enricah
Subject: British Parliamentary Laws – Archaic???

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http://www.kenyalaw.org/eKLR/
The Bench Bulletin – January 2008, NCLR

KLR to publish Election petition Law Reports – Kenya Law Reports is preparing a special series of law reports covering substantive and procedural issues of the law governing election petitions. The inaugural edition of the Election Petition Law Reports is scheduled to be released early this year.
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:31:28 +0300
From: william mwangi
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

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Lucy,

How exactly does a fight not exist when Kalonzo and Raila have squabbled PUBLICLY in front of IDPs???! Do you solve a problem by pretending it doesn’t exist and looking for a pastime?

Give us a break!

-benji.

p.s

The guilty having no response always relies on: “Aaw get over it” Whatever!

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mr BENJI
Subject: Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

Oh Kenyans, Life Comes Full Circle Too Soon.

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Dear Majestic People Of Kenya,

Herein these forum, we campaigned to the extent that we incited Kenyans against each other.

Herein these forum, Michoma Moenga said words that ignited the people to vote, perhaps words he wished he could take back. He is back, but I say to him, *karibu ndugu* lets end tribalism as we knew it.

Herein these forum, Okoth Otura’s tougue like Peter Okondo’s caused some to want to dissociate from Owad gi Akinyi. Sought of like Rev Wright is doing to Obama. Otura your words are like stale wine, just full of hardness but lack substance, freshness or sweetness. Stop fighting your brothers. Leave Chris Owala alone, he did not cause votes to be stolen. And another thing, Let Ababu Namwamba be whatever he wants to be. If he rises too soon it is the dew of life that will choke him.

Herein these forum, Lucy Kimani’s name was synonymous with Lucy Muthoni, though it was her who’d be on the receiving *makofi* end had she met face to face with many. Lucy, I am glad to be on the same *Gavo* with you this time. If we can heed your call, to develop and interest for another pass time…….

Herein these forum, Barack Abonyo praised and defended Kalonzo Musyoka when Najib Balala and the whole *Pwani *people* *jeered Stephen as he begun showing signs and symptoms of the disease that first afflicted Judas. Now Abonyo asks: “what is Kalonzo?” Daktari, That might be a perfect research question. At the end of it, Kalonzo might just turn out to be the maggot necessary to cleanse a festering ODM wound, and you would get the second Phd! Remember, there are no permanent enemies in politics.

Herein these forum, we keep getting postings regarding brother fighting brother or sister. Only yesterday, Judy Miriga involved me in one. We are done fighting people! Let us stop dismantling one another, but *ebu tuanze kuinuana.*

Lastly, I have received petty emails not about any important issue with Raila’s email address copied on them. I joined many in saying Raila Wan’gni! He is there already, and you all need to realize this. My 10th great grandfather, Ragem commands that you cease and desist from including him in your cheap correspondence.

Whatever, we say, lets be very cautious lest we plunge Kenyans into the avoidable looming war. We are still in the genocide watch for Bahaola’s sake! http://www.genocidewatch.org/kenya.html.

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Joram Ragem
wuod Ndinya, wuod Onam, wuod Amolo, wuod Owuoth, wuod Oganyo, wuod Mumbe,
wuod Odongo, wuod Olwande, wuod Adhaya, wuod Ojuodhi, woud Ragem! (Are you
my relative?)

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:34:09 -0400
From: Joram Ragem
Subject: Oh Kenyans, Life Comes Full Circle Too Soon.

Re: The Rift Valley MPs should table Majimbo motion in Parliament ASAP

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http://majimbokenya.com/home/about/

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: ndebele okoth
Subject: Re: The Rift Valley MPs should table Majimbo motion in Parliament ASAP
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charles nkuraya wrote:

Otura, you are a fool and this is why. First you think by having majimbo corruption will go away. Now that foolishness. All you need to do is to look at how CDF money has been embezzled at local level. Second you claim that the Gikuyus tax payers in Rift Valley will be protected by regional powers, that utter nonsense. The regional leaders don’t like Gikuyu now what will make them like Gikuyu when they have a regional government? Third, you keep on referring to Moi as late president Moi making the readers wonder when Moi passed away.

In any case the ethnic violence in Rift Valley actually call for a more strong central government in order to guarantee freedom of of movement and ownership of property in the whole country.

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Subject: Re: The Rift Valley MPs should table Majimbo motion in Parliament ASAP

Re: what is Kalonzo? ; It is time to move on to issues

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barack abonyo wrote:

To use what is Kalonzo? as a question is gramatically backward and awkward but that is just the question many Kenyans should ask if they haven’t. To answer this question, Kalonzo used to be somebody in Kenyan politics but he sold his birthright for a vice presidential position. For everyone’s information, Mudavadi tried it and it took him five years back.

Kalonzo is done. The goodwill is over. He will have to prove himself. Again what is Kalonzo. Can he prove himself to me as a Kenyan voter.
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Barck

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Subject: Re: what is Kalonzo?

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Yes politicians and especially Kenyan politicians are mostly self serving and unprincipled. But yes Kalonzo is the leader of the pack of these kind of wishy washy rulers (not leaders). A spineless guy who is opportunistic and selfish to the bone. He will never be a statesman, its not in him and politically I hope Kenyans are smart enough to end the run of these kinds of Kalonzos, Saitotis and Biwotts forever.

-benji

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:38:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mr BENJI
Subject: Re: what is Kalonzo?

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Wakenya,

Campaigns are over. We rallied behind our choices and they were elected or they lost. Some of us called for the slaughter of those who did not belong to the “politically correct” tribes. We wanted to destroy our country over politicians! We have been given a second chance to live in peace but we are working hard to go back to chaos.

In my opinion, politicians are like donkeys. They can be useful if we want to or we can feed them and receive kicks in return. I decided break my long silence after reading the words below.

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:02:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rodgers Akombe
Subject: It is time to move on to issues

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Kalonzo -or any politician- has no birthright to be a leader or so support another leader. A politician’s core business goal is to be elected and climb the ladder as high as it is politically possible and at whatever cost (at your cost of course). Kalonzo is no different. Neither is Raila or Kibaki.

When some youths were destroying property and killing innocent Kenyans while chanting “No ___ No Kenya! No ____ No education! No ____ No peace! No ___ no Rail:” the politician in the blanks did not come out and say Kenya was bigger than him. He instead wished for more destruction to “teach ____ a lesson.” Fill the blanks with any politician and the result will be the same. In short politicians are self interested.

Thousands of Kenyans are homeless; Kenya is facing starvation; and more people are sliding into poverty. Interesting enough, within the last 4 months politicians have awarded themselves huge pensions and crafted a monster government that they tell us is for our own good. In this mess we have time to debate who is who in the chain of command! Don’t we have better thing to do?

I think Kenya needs celebrities who worship and start holding politicians accountable. As it is today, politicians are celebrities. They are like football players (no wonder they use that analogy.) We cheer them like teams. The decide what we should think and when. What we should do and when. That is why we are more concerned about the seeding of our political players more than the atrocities they are committing on the masses!

I penned this http://www.eastandard.net/archives/cl/print/news.php?articleid=30706 a few years ago. The situation has not changed.

When will we stop this nonsense and hold the politicians accountable?

Mosaisi

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Subject: It is time to move on to issues

Re: Kalonzo “Mr Judas” should be sacked a longside his 2 sisters Mutua and Kivitu

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Hi Mlajasho and Lucy,
 
  Dr Abonyo article contain facts, it is unfortunate that Mlajasho wants to read what pleases him.
 
  Kalonzo, ” Mr Judas” and some of the Kibaki hardliners want to change the rules in the middle of the game, unfortunately their political psychological gymnastic have no room in high politicized Kenya society.
 
  The ODM/PNU grand coalition government is a law and therefore, no dubious assumption and confusin tactics  from  “Mr Judas” will  be tolerated by all Kenyans.
 
  In fact President, Kibaki should sacked him along side Mutua and Kaviotu the 3 Kamba sisters
 
 
  Rev Okoth Otura.
  Toronto, Canada

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:  ndebele okoth
Subject:  Kalonzo “Mr Judas” should be sacked a longside his 2 sisters Mutua and Kivitu

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Of course I can read what I like just like you do. But what is it with all this Kalonzo attacks by all people with names starting with the Letter O? I may read what i want but again am not that naive in understanding where the attacks are coming from and why. It’s not that I like Kalonzo…in fact I won’t vote for him. I wouldn’t vote for Kibaki let alone Raila. All these readers careless about you and me and the common mwananchi. look at today’s paper. Raila sounds like a primary school head prefect. He has taken this power thing too far even at places like the IDPs zones where they (leaders) should be talking about  resettling and helping out those no so lucky Kenyans. Instead they spend precious time fighting about who is who .What is it with these leaders getting orders from every foreign ambassador….and especially with ODM? Can’t they understand that the outsisde world cannot and will not help them archive anything that can uplift our economy? Do you think, and i am almost sure you are somewhere in one of the western powers, that these countries are really helping us(kenyans)? Of course not. They are just lobbying for their interests.

What happens when you have a lion pulling a gazelle from one end and some hynenas on the other? That’s exactly what Kenya is going through. We have ODM that is pulling everything their way, PNU on the other and of course World bodies (US,UK etc)  on the other. God bless that country and the coalition if they even have a chance to see 2012 in one piece! When you say Kalonzo and his two sisters should be sacked, I agree. So is the Pimp Raila and his wives (ODM MPs) who blindly jump high before even Raila says jump! Not to be left behind , Ali baba Kibaki and his crew!

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:  MlaJasho Kamil
Subject:  Re: Kalonzo “Mr Judas” should be sacked a longside his 2 sisters Mutua and Kivitu

Re: Is it really a crime?

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Hamjambo,

The other day I was in a matatu reading a novel and a policeman on his way home entered, greeted me and then told me I was *breaking the Law by reading inside a moving vehicle*… Laughed aloud at this as I told him the little Law I know tells me that if I was walking whilst reading, then he could hold and charge me. Plus I was not in the drivers’ seat so as to be blamed for an accident due to lack of concentration. Dismissed him as I thought he just wanted to speak to someone after a long day at work. *Could he have been stating a fact?*

Where can I read through some of these bylaws just for knowledge sake since ignorance is not a defence? At least the Town Clerk warns people against sitting on the flower pots and has finally placed benches in strategic areas to rest our limbs. Kudos to the NCC!!!

I know that if am walking in the vicinity of a Chief’s office at about 6pm and I hear a whistle and don’t stand at *attention*, I will be hauled into the AP’s 10X10 till they deem fit to educate me on why I should respect the flag as it is being brought down.

Good Day!!!

Regards,
Arnette

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:33:55 +0300
From: Arnette Wambaire
Subject: Is it really a crime?

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Where are the Lawyers? This is not a joke, it happened. We need enlightenment because am sure there are some by-laws that only apply to the 1900’s when mules were the means of conveyance. As we fight for a new Constitution, by-laws must also be modernised.

Cyprian; Ekuru and all the Civil Society activists, what say ye on this supposed crime?

Help us…..

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:30:44 +0300
From: Arnette Wambaire
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

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There is no such law. The policeman wanted a word or two with you is all.

Al Kags

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:42:17 +0300
From: Al Kags
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

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Compatriots,

When the Constitution Review Commission of Kenya started its work a couple of years ago, one constitutional scholar argued that the problem we have may not be a broken constitution, but constitutionality in Kenya. In other words, he argued, we may have good laws on the books which are unknown, ignored or misused.

I once saw a collection of old laws from various states of the US which were no longer applied, but still on the books. In one state it was illegal to walk backwards, in another it was wrong to whistle at certain times of the day, in another it was only illegal for a husband to beat a wife if he beat her for so long… etc. In our own country and for good reason, Nairobi City Council, for example, prohibits sign boards larger than a certain size (very small by the way). As far as I remember, this bylaw has not been repealed, but look at the gigantic billboards that adorn Kenyan roadsides now. Technically, all these are illegal and if authorities wanted, they’d bring them down legally, but can you imagine the outcry?

My point is that there are many outrageous and outmoded laws on the books in many countries, so old and outmoded that a lot of times people don’t know that they exist. It is entirely possible that there is an old and outmoded law somewhere that prohibits reading on a moving vehicle.

AM

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:45:11 EDT
From: Angaluki@ . . .
Subject: Re: Is it really a crime?

Re: what is Kalonzo?

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Barack, asking what is Kalonzo is the same as asking what is a politician. Kalonzo is just like Kibaki or Raila, a politician. My only sympathy goes to those who give everything including themselves to politicians because they will live to be disappointed.

Nkuraya

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: charles nkuraya
Subject: Re: what is Kalonzo?

TIME FOR YOUTH TO DECLARE: NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL

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http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=699#post699

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Immediately the last name was announced during the
appointments of the Permanent Secretaries, the little
hope I was hanging on broke and now I am flat on the
ground. You will not understand how I feel if you are
not in my position. You will either disown me as
optimistic or ambitious but I would appreciate if you
don’t refer to me as greedy and opportunistic.

A greedy person perfects that art of grabbing all he
can and canning all that he has grabbed while an
opportunistic benefits from where he never sowed. I
don’t belong in these two categories.
. . .
arsenal

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:10:07 +0300
From: Robert Alai
Subject: TIME FOR YOUTH TO DECLARE: NOT BUSINESS AS USUAL

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WHY CALL FOR SECOND AFRICAN SYNOD WHEN THE FIRST NEVER WAS

BY FR JOACHIM OMOLO OUKO, AJ

NAIROBI-KENYA

APRIL 28, 2008

When Pope Benedict XVI confirmed his predecessor’s plan by announcing on 22 June 2005 his decision to convoke in Rome the Second Assembly for African Synod of Bishops, one issue came into fore. Why convoke the second synod when the first one was left unaddressed?

It is twelve years ago, from 10 April to 8 May 1994, when the First Special Assembly for Africa of the Synod of Bishops was held in Rome instead of Africa with the topic: “The Church in Africa and Her Evangelizing Mission towards the Year 2000 under the banner: ‘You shall be my witnesses (Acts 1:8)'”.

The theme for second synod is: “Religions in Service to Reconciliation, Peace and Justice in Africa”. The assembly is expected to provide a providential occasion to present a general picture of the African situation, and the strategies and objectives to be adopted for the Church on the continent believed to continue promoting effectively the Kingdom of God, which is reconciliation, justice, peace and love.

The question of inculturation was dominant in the first synod simply because the African bishops believed inculturation is an essential aspect of the need to apply the gospel as a liberative principle in all aspects of the social historical contexts in Africa.

Even though it later turned out according to the bishops that inculturation was understood in areas of Liturgy, because it is made up of symbol and ritual which can be a great formative element in shaping the missionary consciousness of a people and that because faith always needs to be celebrated, mission and liturgy are natural partners, even in liturgy inculturation is still far off from the reality.

When Cardinal Francis Arinze, the Church’s “liturgist-in-chief,” made a speech at Catholic University of Eastern African last month, he criticized liturgical abuses and protested Masses where the recklessly innovative priests act as “Reverend Showman”. This is a clear case which demonstrates that African bishops are not comfortable with the first synod, and raises the question of why call for the second when the first one is a bother to them.

The Nigerian-born Cardinal Arinze who hit the headlines in both local and international media as most expected next pope is the Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, was in Kenya to conduct a workshop and a retreat on liturgy for the Kenya bishops, according to Catholic Information Services for Africa (CISA).

Cardinal Arinze was even scared of the reforms of Vatican II, saying they must be seen as continuous with the past rather than as a dramatic break. “The Catholic Church is the same before and after Vatican II. It isn’t another Church,” he said.

Just as African bishops are calling for second synod, the traditional Latin Mass (ad orientem), which was virtually outlawed by the Vatican in the 1960s, is being revived. This old rite dates back to the 1570 Council of Trent and of late it has heartened campaigners who have been fighting for its revival.

Under the rite, the priest celebrates High Mass with his back to the congregation, intoning the Latin liturgy amid swirls of incense and arcane ritual.

Since the Second Vatican Council, the rite was displaced by Mass in the vernacular and the traditional music and dances.

When Pope Benedict XVI baptized 13 infants, the children of Vatican employees, in keeping with a Vatican tradition on the feast of the Baptism of Christ in January this year, he used the ad orientem posture, facing in the same direction as the congregation, using the magnificent altar of the Sistine Chapel rather than portable altar that had been set up in previous years.

Although this provoked widespread comment, with many journalists reporting that the Pope had revived an old liturgical tradition, it is believed the ad orientem posture was never abolished.

According to this rite those who intend to receive Communion are asked to place a host in the ciborium as they enter the chapel. However, this rite was used because there was a practical reason for this at the beginning: the tabernacle in some adoration chapels were not large enough to hold many hosts; so this practice gave exactly the number of hosts people needed for each Mass.

Mass facing east was the norm form during ancient times because churches have traditionally been constructed facing the rising sun. They believed sun was cosmic symbol of the light, energy, and grace that come to us through the Son from the Father.

Pope Benedict faced east because according to him by doing so faithful are turned in expectation toward the Lord who is to come (eschatology) and shows that we are part of an act that goes beyond the church and community where we are celebrating, to the whole world (cosmos).

He believes in churches not facing geographical east, the Cross and Tabernacle become “liturgical east”. Incidentally, the rubrics he says require that the celebrant of Mass face the crucifix during the Eucharistic prayer.

This rite has also influenced some elderly priests who do not believe in change, or inculturation. Even when Mass is celebrated in English, they customarily intone a Gregorian chant setting for the Kyrie, Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, and Agnus Dei. They also intone in Latin the introduction to the Preface (Dominus vobiscum, Sursum Corda, etc.) and the Great Amen (Per ipsum).

Some of these elderly priests and bishops who do not believe in change or inculturation do not allow female servers or Eucharistic ministers. In fact some do not allow even male ministers. They argument is based on the fact that since the liturgical norm is that only ordained ministers (bishop, priest, and deacon) are “ordinary” ministers of the Eucharist, none ordained should not be encouraged to be Eucharistic ministers.

They are only compromised if none of the ordained is available. It is only then that the lay person officially installed as an extraordinary minister of the Eucharist may assist. One of the very important roles they have in parishes is to assist the priests and deacons in taking Communion to the homebound and not in parishes where priests are present.

The fact that in more ancient liturgies kiss of peace took place as the gifts were being brought to the altar, echoing the biblical injunction to reconcile with one’s brother on the way to the judge, some of these elderly and conservative bishops do not encourage kiss of peace.

They believe that the kiss of peace was included in the Novus Ordo Missae of 1969 only as an option and not as a requirement. It explains why for the priest to leave the sanctuary and offer the kiss of peace to the faithful is always a liturgical abuse.

It further explains why in his last month speech Cardinal Arinze argued that proper inculturation required bishops to guide the introduction of new elements into worship. In other words, for any new change in liturgy bishops must be the ones to guide because they are the only authority.

He argued that innovations should take place only after careful consideration, after bishops have set up a multi-disciplinary group of experts to study a cultural element to be included in the liturgy.

His argument that the group of experts should then make their recommendation to their bishops’ conference, if both the bishops’ conference and the Holy See approve the innovation, after limited experiment and “due preparation” of the clergy and the people, the new element may be incorporated indicates clearly that at this point when the first synod has not been fully implemented as expected, then there is no need for the second one.

With recent ban by a Peruvian cardinal of the practice of receiving Communion in the hand in his diocese is further indication that most bishops are not ready for change.

In an Italian website, Opus Dei Cardinal Juan Luis Cipriani Thorne told Petrus: “I maintain that the best way to administer Communion is on the tongue, so much so that in my diocese I have forbidden the host in the hand.”

Speaking to the Italian web site Petrus, Cardinal Juan Luis Cipriani Thorne of Lima, Peru, said that in order to guard against abuses, “the best way to administer Communion is on the tongue.”

The cardinal’s decision in banning the communion in the hand goes against Pope Paul VI in 1969 who polled the bishops of the world on the question of communion-in-the-hand and subsequently proclaimed that, while there was no consensus for the practice worldwide, in those areas where a different practice prevails it may be introduced by a two-thirds vote of the bishops (of each conference)

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:19:09 +0300
From: PEOPLE FOR PEACE
Subject: Regional News

Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

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Dear All

Its sad that Kibaki. martha, kalonzo and kilonzo (former moi’s Lawyer) think that Kenyans are fools. I think ODM need to take a bold step and make them learn hard lessons, In fact Raila conceded too much that is why this group is thinking that they have won, what they don’t know is that ODM is the people.

Chris

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:50:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris owala
Subject: Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

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How dare XY and Z???? You all need to get over it! The GOK now comprises ODM, PNU, ODM-Kenya and looking for fights that don’t exist may occupy your idle minds, but my suggestion is you look for a better past time!!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lucy Kimani
Subject: Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

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I do not think a Dr. Barack Abonyo would write something like this. Hiyo kithungu sio ya daktari…ha haaa.

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: MlaJasho Kamili
Subject: Re: what else does kibaki want from Raila?

RE: Contact you MP today

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Thanks for this initiative. However I figure out the list is not complete. Where are the numbers of some of our MP’s. A larger Number of NARC, ODM-K and PNU MP’s are missing. Have they refused to part with their numbers?

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:26:53 +0300
From: Daniel Wambua
Subject: Re: Contact you MP today

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Please if you have the contacts for any MP or Civic leader send them over. We must call them and ask them what they are doing. Please see the list here
http://www.wananchiforums.com/showthread.php?p=680#post680

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:15:21 +0300
From: Robert Alai
Subject: Contact you MP today

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Thanks for your good job Robert.

If any one has the Kasarani MP’s no, they can share. The state of roads are bad especillay from Roysmabu- Kasarani and she can be requested to help through the City Country or the Ministry of Roads and Public works.

Thanks,

Isaac

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:58:43 +0300
From: “I.N. Thendiu”
Subject: Re: Contact you MP today

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Hi Thendiu!

I don’t know if she still uses this No’s but they are Her’s: 0723870741,0722897529

If any one know’s of Hon Dalmas Kindly share with me please.

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:51:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: philip ochieng
Subject: Re: Contact you MP today

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My MP-Westlands, Fred Gumo, is not in the list!!

Anyone who knows how he can be contacted?!!

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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:42:40 +0300
From: Margaret Kagori Kinyanjui
Subject: RE: Contact you MP today

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