Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:53:40 +0000 [01:53:40 PM CST]
From: Kennedy Oduor
Subject: RE: Coalition Government
Paul putting together an ECK is not so hard once Kenyans resolve that what they need is fresh elections. Electoral Commissioners are Kenyans appointed to conduct elections through the Constitution. So once calls from all corners of Kenya for fresh elections are made..there will be an electoral body to handle the elections. I tell you if we remain with this coalition for the next 4 years..wait and see what will happen in 2012..Massive Rigging and we shall back to December 2007 again.
I hope you read Mutahi Ngunyi’s article..the Media Bill is a prelude to massive rigging in 2012 and then silencing the media using the law..Uhuru Kenyatta at Finance will the conduit for campaign money for Saitoti..and swearing in Saitoti at night is no big deal..according to this deal..Kenyans will fight..make noise ..demonstrate but the rigged in candidate will stay..maybe we will have another negotiated coalition government..with whats going on..kenyans should forget a new Constitution by 2012..and Kenyans should forget that Tribalism will even be tampered with..It will always remain so long we have masses that are willing and ready to support tribalism and even defend tribalism and corruption..Havent you read in this forum people defending Kibaki and Kimunya??? havent you read people playing the card of lets blame them all..just as they did when PNU rigged in 2007? We are a long way brother but lets all be hopeful..
If Kenyans could shun tribalism..unite and vote in leaders according to their policies and not tribe then we can get rid of this yoke and build this country..we talk well in these forum..we even hate tribalism in these forum but when it comes to voting we vote tribes not policies..Who knew that Kibaki would handsomely win Central Province after the Artur Brother scandal..the Goldenberg..the Anglo-leasing..tribalism..no new Constitution..no respect for agreements..skewed allocation of resources..But people of Central still voted for him..because he was one of their own nomatter what he does to Kenya…who knew that anyone would vote for the Wako Draft which gave the President even more powers than he currently has?..people from central saw it differently..all they wanted was Kibaki at state house period nomatter what he stands for..Lets be honest with each other..and lets discuss hard issues..lets not run away from discussing tribalism..the eyesore in Kenya..
— On Mon, 26/1/09, Oulu Paul O. wrote:
From: Oulu Paul O.
Subject: RE: Coalition Government
Date: Monday, 26 January, 2009, 8:12 AM
Mathias and Kennedy,
Thanks alot for the marvelous wisdom and opinion that you have showered on the above debate.
While I trully appreciate the views you have taken, I would like to hear your proposals on how we woud conduct an Election in the absense of an ECK.
Thae politicians seem to have conned us again. What we need first is to push this govt to put an ECK in place but calling for election without one is like shooting ourselves in the leg.
Comrades I agree with you that we need pressure and that it must be done sooner than later.
Kennedy Oduor wrote:
Mathias and Paul, thanks for all your suggestions about the Coalition government but I disagree with both of you. For Paul, there is totally no need of a second mediation..its a waste of time. One side of the coalition will never respect any negotiated agreements..you saw it in 2002 with the MoU and you have seen now with the National Accord. For Mathias, Kenyans are tired of this coalition coupled with hunger thats raving them and no hope for a better future. Secondly, Kenyans have no proper channels of putting pressure on this government. Kibaki can appoint Kimunya 20 times..what will you do?
Kibaki can easily ask “Kimunya amekula mbuzi ya nani?” After all he views that he has the powers to do whatever he wants. This is Kenya Mathias. I know that the electorate is waking up but its still failed by draconian laws that we have in this country. Kibaki even overlooked the vote of no confidence from parliament on Kimunya. Dont you know that the Artur case went like that..dont you know that goldenberg went like that..dont you know that anglo-leasing went like that..no one is in jail because of all the above. Ringera is but a stooge..Wako is but a stooge.
Here is the solution: LET KENYANS CALL FOR FRESH ELECTIONS so that we have a democratically elected government with mandate from the people to GOVERN. We dont want a fraud governing this country for five years as if kenyans cant elect a government they want and deserve. Lets all join in calling for fresh elections NOW…
— On Sun, 25/1/09, mathias aguta wrote:
From: mathias aguta
Subject: RE: Coalition Government
Date: Sunday, 25 January, 2009, 2:15 AM
Paul,
THank you for your compelling reasons for another mediation team to sort out the mess in the Coalition. However, I wish to disagree with you on this.
That the coalition has failed to deliver is clear for all to see. The uneasy cohabitation within the partners is apparent to all. The failure to amalgamate all the pre-election manifestos to lift the country out of political mediocrity and patronage that feeds corruption is testimony to the vanity in puting too much trust in a Coalition government that was forced on us by forces that had no capacity to monitor progress and ensure implementation of the agreements reached. Kenyans have simply given up on this government’s ability to work for its citizens.
Inspite of all these, it’s my view thatanother round of negotiations and mediation is a total waste of time and resources in trying to make our political impeciles see sense. We are simply tired. Giving them another chance to make agreements among themselves will be like throwing them a lifeline to continue fooling Kenyans till the eve of next elections. Instead Kenyans, ONLY Kenyans must now arise and put maximum pressure on this government to either deliver or quit. Every opportunity must be seized now to light fires under the bootoms of our incorrigible to lead or be forced out. This must continue up to the time of elections.
This way the power of the people will be felt by the greedy, corrupt and inept leaders who fail to understand that they have a contract of employment with Kenyans. I do not see a thing to mediate about. Will it be mediation between Kenyans and a few politicians who cannot deliver? Would it be another round at Serena hotel between the same current failures in parliament? Or is it mediation between the same old, confused, ideologically bankrupt tribal political parties? Another round to have the Karuas, Rutos, Odinga’s, Kibakis and all the crowd of them to bask in the limelight of a nation that cannot even feed her people? No, we are tired of all these. Let them be given an ultimatum by the Kenyan people. Right now. Or the people power must now be applied with the mightiest of forces. We can do this. We must do it.
Mathias.
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:00:16 -0800
From: oulugpo@ . . .
Subject: Coalition Government
ANOTHER MEDIATION TEAM IS URGENTLY REQUIRED TO AVERT A POSSIBLE FALLOUT IN THE COALITION
The Coalition government is a product of Kofi Annan led mediation team, entrenched and brought by the enactment of National Accord Act; an act that stipulates among others the conditions upon which the coalition government mandate shall come to an end. This is captured in the clause that say “….. In the event and circumstances that one party to the coalition withdraws from the coalition, the government shall cease to exist and as such fresh election would be called.†This means that withdrawal of one party either ODM or PNU will automatically lead to the collapse of the coalition.
The parties to the Coalition at this moment may want many Kenyans to believe that all is well within the Coalition; but the emerging and continuous differences and quarrels, open and public criticisms, the corruption and scandals, the blame games and the Ministerial defiance to the government policy of collective responsibility, is a clear show case that days ahead for the coalition government will not be a bed of roses. These are early signs that should raise the common man’s eyebrows on the question of commitment of the partners in the coalition towards making it work.
Of the recent past, the government and the parliament has behaved and treated Kenyan people in manner likely to amount to and suggest of their defiance to heed to the will of the citizens. The landmark being their refusal to pay tax, recycling of Kimunya back into the cabinet, the passing of the Communication Act 2009 and exporting maize to Sudan, at a time when Kenyans are starving to death. The politicians have given us every reason to believe that they would do anything without any sense of second thought to frustrate the aspirations of the Kenyan people; no wonder the report recently released by Steadman Group indicates that most Kenyans have no confidence in this Coalition government.
Most decision taken into consideration and implementation by this government is never a reflection of the national good. Thus the nation may one day wake up to a rude shock of one or both party declaration of their withdrawal from the Coalition; after all the parties have been behaving like two governments in one.
This is why we as a nation, although we are known never to plan in advance, must think of creating another mediation team to mend the emerging and threatening cracks within the Coalition government. The continuous unpopularity of the Coalition Government also calls for a quick intervention so that Kenya does not find itself in another phase of mess and confusion.
The wise men and women of this nation must begin a deliberate initiative and consultations on how to create a homegrown and home thought strategy to ensure that even in the event of fallout in the coalition government, Kenya will be able to have a safe landing and transition; after all not many are inspired by this government . The interest here is to ensure that after being battered by this political class and coalition government, Kenyans should not again find themselves in their brutal hands waiting for a solution for the problems that they created for us.
Civic education is urgently required to educate and enlighten Kenyans on the superiority and seniority between, connecting and distinguishing the Constitution and the National Accord; at the moment, we are not sure whether we are governed by the constitution or the national accord. The entire parliament was sworn as per the constitution while the government is a product of National Accord which is not entrenched in the Constitution.
The disbandment of ECK, compounded by both failure and delay of the government to constitute another ECK complicates this situation further, because it leaves Kenya in a precarious position. May the coalition collapse; the country will have no Electoral body to oversee the elections as required by the constitution. Besides in the scenario where the president either die or resign before the five year term, the country will find itself in a leadership stalemate courtesy of a constitutional – national accord conflict. The former states that is such a situation the Vice President is the second in command, while the later puts the prime minister second in command.
The risk and the uncertainty ahead can not be left in the hands of our politicians. They failed in 2007 and it took the intervention of a mediation team to bring normalcy, peace and a deal in the name of Coalition Government in Kenya, ending months of ethnic killings and destructions.
This is why we must look for such a team early enough before we start counting on unknown damages. The religious, the media, the private sector and Civil Societies groups should therefore read the writing on the wall and play the leading role in ensuring that this country does not slide back to any position of disadvantage or political captivity by the political class.
Yours faithfully
Signed
OULU GPO
P. O Box 4598-00200
Nairobi
Email; oulugpo@yahoo.com