Alex Tallam
date Nov 3, 2009 2:06 AM
subject ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

The much publicised purchase of VW Passats to replace the fuel guzzlers has generated another scandal where once again the tax payers have lost a substantial amount of money to our currupt leaders. The government paid 3.7m for each of the 130 Passats delivered and this translate to a figure of 481 Million. The actual price of a new Passat from Germany is USD 26,995 which is
Ksh 2,024,625 when the dollar is exchanged at Ksh 75. This figure will even come down when it is exchanged at the government rates. If we assume the transportation from Germany to Kenya costs USD 1000 (it may be lower), then the cost of buying such passat will be 27,995 (Ksh 2,099,625) Now:

130 by 3,700,000 will be 481,000,000
130 by 2,099,625 will be 272,951,250
the difference 481,000,000-272,951,250 will be 208,048,750.

Remember this is a deal which never went through the government procurement process, it was singled sourced from a particular company and yet it is not a sensitive or a security contract where single sourcing is allowed. By bypassing the procurement process, the authors of the deal have made 208 million out of the taxpayers money!!!. Now, what cretaria did they use to arrive at Passat and not a Toyota? when this contract was single sourced, the government lost the benefit of choosing the best deal for its money through competitive bidding and I bet this thing was done purposely to benefit CMC Motors, which calls for investigation to establish the ownership structure in this company.

Whats your take on this?

Alex.

Winfred Nyambura
date Nov 3, 2009 2:42 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

I totally agree with you Tallaam, the procurement procedures were not followed and for sure, this company may have links with some of those who bought the cars. Guys we must push Bonnie on the 5th so that this sale may be revoked. Surely 90% of the loyal tax payers cannot afford a packet of Unga. Uhuru must explain critically how he arrived to this.

Our prime minister has been trying his best to have the procurement procedure in the govt offices being transparent and here his deputy goes ahead and violate the same rules they are trying to put in place. Mr. Prime minister, please sack your assistant coz of not following instructions. I wish the govt could be a private company on this, some 5-10 would be on their way home now.

Lee Makwiny
date Nov 3, 2009 3:07 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Uhur u should not hoodwink us in the name of “fuel” gazzlers. Its very unfortunate if for example they procured new Benz(s) for Kajwang and other 3 months ago and now they will be resold at less than half price. We rather have a transparent “guzzlers” than corruptly acquired “Passat”.

The question we should the minister and which he must answer are:

1. Why single source over 100 cars?

2. Is Passat the most efficient in terms of cost saving compared to ther vehicles

3. Why allow the ministry to procure vehicls only three months ago?

We are on your neck Mr Uhuru. Do not try to cheat us sir.

Winfred Nyambura
date Nov 3, 2009 3:39 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Hata tungenununa TOYOTA PLATZ with 1000CC, they are equally good and they save on fuel and also buying price, Kwanza those MPS and Ministers are supposed to be given 2nd hand coz they have refused completely to pay tax? They don’t deserve the Passat either, they need 2nd hand through ABC ama Auto Japan, with the highest mileage.

Kirugu Mungai
date Nov 3, 2009 3:44 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Hon Bonny Khalwale the bull fighter who is coming to YP meeting on
thursday heads the public accounts committees in parliament which is
tasked to investigate such deals.

We should ask him this tough questions and what they are doing to
ensure the deal is revoked.

Mungai

Judy Miriga
date Nov 3, 2009 5:39 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Mungai you impress me.

Excellent piece Mungai, thats the way to go and be able to protect your destiny. Your destiny is in your hands. This is how you must take your leaders to task to account for whatever their actions on the ground. This is how you will gain value and respect. This is how you will demonstrate your maturity to stand up and demand for your rights and make this world a better place to live on. This is how you will protect value for your morals so God will give you more days to live on earth.

Send my greetings to Bonny and tell him I do care and I love you all……

Kudos!
I love you all.

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com

Jared Koyier
date Nov 3, 2009 6:08 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Government procurement procedures are the reason why service delivery to Kenyans is slow. Let’s assume Uhuru decided to advertise the tender:

1. It would take about 30 days to prepare the tender, then 30 days to wait for response, further 30 days to evaluate and award the tender. As is the case with most bidders,questions will be raised as to the manner in which the award was carried out and as such a further 21days for an appeal notice period would be given. They’ll then move to court(bogus Kenyan court) for a period of 1yr through which the tender would be canceled or something close to that. In the meantime Kenyan are languishing in poverty and complaining to the government to stop wastage
2.Benz,Toyota,BMW,VOLVO all would probably have bid.Maybe Toyota would have suggested new shape premio(I dont know much abt cars) or something close to that, their price would include what is referred to as BadBoy’s cut. So that if the cost of such a car was 2m,they would put it at 2.5 to cover the badboy’s cut. Add to the fact that it’s a tender and that most bids are never done at the shelve price of any commodity, add another 0.3m so that the price is 2.8m. The tender would then drag until the 90day quote is over and a further 0.4m would be added to cater for price fluctuations. At the end of the day,the government would buy some poor quality item that will never last in the spirit of following the law.

Guys whenever i hear people say Michuki is a good leader and on the same breadth castigate others i wonder. Michuki is the kind of leader who does not fear breaking rules to achieve what is good for the masses. Uhuru has just done that.
Let’s stop this noise and shout at those Ministers who haven’t complied.

Alex Tallam
date Nov 3, 2009 7:14 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

I think those who will have a chance of attending the meeting should have some form of protest note delivered through Khalwale to Uhuru. Also questions that are need answers from Uhuru should be given to him.

Amanda Khamati
date Nov 3, 2009 9:00 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

The procurement of those vehicles was done improper.

forget government procurement procedures, tendering and everything that comes along with it.

We have far greater issues that need to be dealt with, and which require more attention. such as resettlement of the Mau evictees, IDPs, the floods in parts of the country that have killed many people, etc.

what was the hurry in buying these cars, when the cost of acquiring them will cost the tax payer so much money (which by the way will not be recovered from the sale of the mercedes that have been returned). was it absolutely necessary? Is it also a fact that the new vehicles are more fuel efficient than all the ones that have been returned?

I hope for Uhuru has enough in his defence to set this straight. But looking from the outside in, this is just another scam like Goldenberg, and Anglo leasing.

Alex Tallam
date Nov 3, 2009 9:39 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Breaking the law does not constitute change for your information, the people have a right to disobey bad laws and respect good once, having said that, do you think the procurement law is one of the bad once we have in our statute book? and even if he was to break it, do you think it was done in good faith? IDPs have been in camps close to 2 years now and so that is not an emergency to Uhuru? and by the way we cannot make a comparrison between the laws that the colonialist were enforcing and the once which akina Uhuru should be upholding, those are two different sets of laws which have nothing in common.

otieno sungu
date Nov 3, 2009 10:03 AM
subject Re: ANOTHER SCANDAL AT THE TREASURY

Koyier,

You forget that MAU MAU were the oppressed, they had reasons to fight the powers that be. Here, you are talking of those in power breaking the law!!!

Why not make the law work? MAU MAU had to fight those using laws to oppress them, the leaders we have today are right in power and have all machinery to make the law work, or change it to make it work!!!

They have no business breaking the law, you only resort to breaking the law when those in power are intransingent and not listening, now, this one of yours is a new argument, that those entrusted with safeguarding the law should break it in the cause of safegaurding it….yawa!!!

Sungu

barack abonyo
date Nov 3, 2009 3:11 AM
subject THE QUESTION THAT OUTWITTED RAILA

Just one week ago I listened to my prime minister talk about “His request for France to establish nuclear technology in Kenya” and I said, not bad sir, not really bad. Ambition is the mother of invention or the reason for life. Those who have no ambition have no life. Indeed ambitionless individuals in the US are the so called beggars or in plain language “wellfare begots” or those who live in the “projects”. Wrong for me to castigate a hard working folk who just lost his job, however, I am not the one who did it, the society did. The same for my prime minister. His request was great but as far as where he comes from and the society that judges him, this was a misplaced request. Indeed if I was in the delegation which in some instances I have had the previlage to be in I would have loughed it off.
But Raila Odinga is not Barack Abonyo. Raila is a visionary who fought for multiparty when just printing a leaflet was a death sentence and for that I will excuse his request for nuclear power. “For those who dont understand my scinisicism, Kenya cannot make even a bicycle as of the time I am writting this piece, why didnt Raila ask for a bicycle making company”. Sory for reducing his request to that level, but you must understand I am trying to make a point here.

What I would not excuse Raila Odinga for is Raila’s failure to answer the question he was asked at Havard or in other words Raila’s lack of seriouseness about what the young man who aaked the question was afraid of or what the young man foreso in his dreams or what the young man had envisioned. If Raila’s mind is not preoccupied with this then he is no more than Mobutu who even after his palce was taken over by soldiers was still calling himslelf some King.

You see life is not about you but about all of us. A friend of mine once told me a story of a man who went to a new planet and took with him the most beautiful and expenisve everything but still failed to enjoy life. The reason being that without me you are nobody. You need a human failure to brag of your achievement. A dog’s failure means nothing.

I am sorry but the young man’s issue is my issue. ” How the hell are we going to stop the war, catastrophy and death that occured in 2007 immediately after 2012 election” .
“Please Mr Prime Minister how do you plan to stop this war? Please do not tell me it will not happen because that is what you told me before we had the 2007 election. Just tell me how you are planning to stop it”.

Ladies and gentlemen from the prime minister’s answer, his solution was that he hoped the constitution will be changed and uprunning by 2012 and that this constitution will actually stop a fight in Kenya. Are there any Kenyans in the house? Can this do st? I doubt and I do have a problem with this premise. The PM need to come up with something better than this if he is not looking forward to excile in 2012.

Many will ask me why are you not asking the same of Kibaki. And my answer is, Kibaki’s time is gone but he has left behind troubled leutenants who are goons. The goons that led us into the previous war. The goons who would not wink to start another war as long as they can make a buck. The goons who will never know a tail from a head. The goons who do not know the value of human life leave alone theirs. The evil ones. The only thing that can stop them is righteousness. Dakkness can only be consumed by overwhelming light.

If you read Mutahi Ngunyi’s article you will know what I am talking about. The ground is set. Kibaki is changing the DC’s, PC’s, commanders, and even the electoral commision. He is changing the constituency boundaries. Do you know what that means? Please check the newly elected electoral commision and remember even these individuals are likely to be replaced last minute because their terms of service will be over just one or less years before election.

The myopic core Kibaki leutenats have strategised for either the military takeover or for a possible unsuccessful run off because there is a possibility of lack of outright winner. Because they are drunk with power, they believe they will quiten the situation through the barrel of the gun.

Yes I am out there. Yes many will say all these is rubbish. But remember it is the same that we talked about in 2007.
There is a solution that I thought Raila Odinga should have tackled fair and square. The cat is not out of the box yet. I hope he sees what the young man at Havard saw and I hope he is working it out.
Dr. Barack O Abonyo

hands of the old man

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Lee Makwiny
date Nov 3, 2009 6:34 AM
subject Re: THE QUESTION THAT OUTWITTED RAILA

Barrack, I think if Raila talked of a new constitution, then he answered you. Kibaki will not be in the race, so he will not try to rig himself again. I know he may be tempted to “rig” in his friend Uhuru but Kenyans will not allow him. Another fact that you pointed out correctly is that you are away. If you were around, you would appreciate that there are alot of “reforms” being undertaken for example the disbandment of ECK, the police reform and we are still asking our brother Obama and Annan to pile more pressure so that we can have an independent judiciary, where the chief justice will not swear a loser at night. I think will all those in place, the war may not re-occur, but again, I don’t think whether its possible for Raila alone to stop war to re-occurring. Its you and me to educate the masses. That’s where the civil society comes in.

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Margaret Gichuki
date Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM
subject Re: THE QUESTION THAT OUTWITTED RAILA

Greetings Nd.Lee,

Mmmmmmhhh…Interesting debate.I had to LOL.

Nd.Barack, I’am on welfare…And BTW, its not a bad
idea.Imagine a country like Kenya that does not take care of their
own? Look at the femine and what it has coused.I read close to 3
million kids are out of schools today?The PM and others who are are
for ”REAL” change ought to be thinking on our behalf but not their
own stomachs, their families, top lobby JOBS,( Kazi kwa vijana)????
where they live, their PASSATS and BIG- Marcs na sijui nini!

My Qs has always been: How deep were the good leaders sleep when the
2007/8 madness was taking place?….I’d like to know.

And what did Mutahi say again?….Me thinks he’s wrong.But do I say.

Ok folks, I’am still half asleep.Wake me up in 2012.

From: Fabian Mwoshi
Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 1:42:44 PM
Subject: KADHIS COURTS I-PLEASE IGNORE THE EVANGELICAL LEADERS

I have been following discussions on the Kadhis Courts issue and feel I we should carefully deliberate this issue without creating another basis of dividing our fragile nation on basis of Religion after the number one criteria; Tribalism.

First, the Kadhis Courts as established in the current have their jurisdiction as stated:” The jurisdiction of a Kadhi’s court shall extend to the determination of questions of Muslim law relating to personal status, marriage, divorce or inheritance in proceedings in which all the parties profess the Muslim religion”.

Consequently, I beg to differ with the so called Evangelical Church Leaders who are opposed to the inclusion of these courts in draft constitution and are threatening to mobilize their followers to reject the whole draft if the courts are included.

My argument is based on the following:

1) Kadhis Courts only deal with issues of Marriage, divorce or inheritance where both parties are Muslims. How then do they affect the Christians? Why vehemently oppose a law that does not affect you surely? ‘Pilipili usiyokula yakuwashia nini’ we ask?

2) I am a Christian by faith. Christianity is a religion of tolerance of one another(but not tolerance of sin) and promotion of peace and coexistence. What our Evangelical leaders are doing, i.e. calling media conferences, chest thumping and singing solidarity songs is a recipe for disaster should our Muslim brothers and sisters feel they are being marginalized. This country is already divided and haunted by Tribalism. The actions of these Evangelical leaders are dividing Kenyans on basis of Religion. Religious conflicts are harder to resolve than political ones for instance compare the North Ireland Protestant-Catholic conflict and the Kibaki Raila Conflict in 2007/8.

3) Finally, I believe as Kenyans we can still arrive at a consensus if we choose to ignore the Evangelical church leaders point of view. I feel we should retain the Kadhis courts in the draft constitution(as they currently are in the current), and discuss more important issues like Executive Presidency vs Parliamentary system,among others. We should be wary of such leaders whose agenda I strongly feel is either to derail the whole constitution or to seek mere publicity to propel them to political offices(preachers are turning politicians). We should continue living in peace, harmony and tolerance of one another regardless of our Religion, Tribe, Race, Age, Social status, Political inclination among others.

I welcome your opinion on this.

Fabian Mwoshi

From: Okok-Obuoga Bernard
Sent: Tue, 3 November, 2009 14:10:33
Subject: Khadhi’s courts – please let us work together

Dear Fabien et al,

It is important to note that you have given key points regarding this issue. I have always tempted not to respond to this debate though I am very key in the consensus-finding process. First, I would like to point to you that as long as we treat the Khadhi’s court matter as an Islamic issue, we shall not find a solution. Secondly, this issue shall not find solution through political exchanges and street-like arguments neither shall we not solve anything thtough intimidation and threat-issuing press statement.Solution(s) shall only come through dialogue and seperation of issues from personalities. Thirdly, it is important to take note that in peaceful resolution of conflicts and/or misunderstanding (such as being demonstrated in the current debate), everyone must be involved and none should be dismissed. In this case, I still hold a belief that even the Evangelicals who hold a strong opinion against Khadhi’s courts could still be reached and invited to a common table where understanding can be generated. I have a very detailed process on this and I would not mind if I invite you to attend some sessions. I have already opened a negotiating door with some leaders in the Evangelical community and very soon a common stand shall be developed. Subsequent to this, I totally appeal to you to be patient and try to help the development of consensus instead of dismissing anyone.

Let us keep on sharing ideas and I would be happy to hear from you and even work with you in this process. My number is 0733811319.

Regards

Ben Okok

From: Steven Maina
Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: Khadhi’s courts – please let us work together

I think it is important to ask the question the other way around so that we can se the pesepective of the evangelicals:

If they will only deal with Muslim personal affairs, why then are they to be in the Constitution? They are actually in the right place already as a Law of Kenya!

What has been the experience of Christians in Muslim (law) countries?

Are we or are not a secular country?

From: Justus Wanga <>
Subject: Re: No Danger
Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 7:28 AM

Daniel,

Thanks for your input and I will review and send a rejoinder, when I have time. I am right now in Nairobi, Kenya and head to Nyalgunga (Nyanza) tomorrow. I have planned for along time to visit Juba or South Sudan. Please share more of the happenings in South Sudan, via a Private message to me.

Regards, Justus.

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From: Padwa Daniel <>
Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 10:41:29 AM
Subject: Re: No Danger

Dear comrades

I have been talking about the need of having men and women of integrity to be on the frontline for pressuring for change in Kenya, I always see men and women of lies in fronting for change here in Africa, we have a long way to go, we had that time in 1992 to bring that change but it was unfortunate that the world did not hear the cry of the late Jaramogi, I kept on reminding many of this history, I know why I must keep on reminding people of this because the Kenyans are too forgetful, the superpower know this very well that Kenyans are too forgetful, they tend to exploit this opportunity to continue confusing we the stupid Africans. The 2007 post elections violence the United States of America had got a hand in it, we need explanation from Ambassador Renneberger, the way things were planned from KICC, the designs to declare Kibaki the President and the time Kibaki was sworn in as the president explains it all, US was the first to recognize Kibaki as the President and followed by President Museveni who was regarded as the African prefect for the United States for perfecting African politics on behalf of US. It was in our media a statement by President Museveni telling President Bush that Uganda would not be happy with Raila wining the Kenyans elections and that he needed President Bush to do something to block Raila becoming the president, what Museveni was trying to say was that he needed Kibaki to remain in power so that they can continue oppressing the Luos, my truth stands and I am not Afraid of anything, telling the world this. Let people call it a hate campaign against the forces that fights the Luo community, any person who thinks that he/she can challenge me on this let them come in the open to do so, thank God that President Obama has created environment for talking the truth. We are requesting the President to recall Ambassador Rennerberger because I believe with him Kenya will never have change because he is serving the interest of the republicans and not the democrats and we knew it very well those Republicans were serving the interests of the Mount Kenya Mafioso Why, we need explanations. We have heard him many times as saying that there is many way of playing diplomacy, one that is played underworld and one which is openly, openly they show that he has got a fight between him and the Minister for Foreign Affairs, openly in the public, then in under camera they are agreeing with the same Minister? Publicly he is seen the following day in Nyanza supporting the youth, what is all these? The Ambassador should stop using Nyanza as a shield, he failed and he has been supporting Kibaki all along why pretend now that he is with Nyanza?, is it because President Obama has roots from there? This purely dirty loyalty which is totally unacceptable, I know that majority of Kenyans can not see this because they are forgetful and they totally can not remember of the yesterday. I respect history because history is the truth and I would like to be hated for talking the history because history is hate, religion is purely history truth and hate.

In 1992, Jaramogi pleaded with the west to stop Kenya from going for elections without having the new constitution in place, Jaramogi thinking that he would have some help from the United States, instead he was disappointed when Kibaki who was in the Kanu regime formed his party as section 2a of the constitution removed allowing multiparty. Well the west believed in Kibaki a advising Ambassador Hemstone that it was not necessary to have the constitution changed before the election, that it was necessary they go for the elections and that within parliament they would have the power to change the constitution, its now almost two decades, billions of shillings have been spent in the process yet we have not moved even an inch, people are poor, hunger is killing both livestock, human beings including the wild beast. There was a hate campaign by the west by then that if Jaramogi was elected president that would have been a straight promotion of communism in Kenya and that was why they were fronting for Kibaki and Batiba to spoil for Jaramogi because he was seen a communist, they poisoned all Kenyans with all these as a hate campaign to make Jaramogi lose the election, Jaramogi was very much popular by then than any other candidate, he lost whereby his votes only came from his Luo Nyanza, The west have been one way or another been involved in all big names of corruption, many a case it has been said that some of the major corruption has been followed up to the door steps of the UK royal family and some even back to the United States of America, the truth is there; We the poor people we are kept to make noise while the world knows very well where the problem is, our tax money is spent for doing investigation while the truth is to make more cover up and to make sure all the traces of evidences are buried period. Why waste money, the thieves are known both here and abroad, why not just arrest instead of wasting money for investigation after investigation? I believe where some of the crooks are in the run Interpol can be used to arrest?

We are watching what is going to happen to Kenya in the next few days, we want the truth to be reviled to the world, if Koffi Anan and Moreno Ocampo can not make the arrest then Kenyans have their own secret weapon, we know that PM has failed too and he is not popular in the west that is why he was rigged out my the American government and not Kibaki, let him give way too because the world has been poisoned that communist are not good leaders and that was the reason that Bush took advise from Museveni and implemented it for the benefit of Kibaki. Kibaki is in power the way the Americans wanted, they rigged him, why cheat us now? Why tell the innocent Kenyans to give pressure on the government yet they are the same tightening the bolts to make the situation even more difficult? Let those who think that they know to come out and challenge me on this. They are too forgetful so they may not understand what I am saying, many have said that I do not know politics and that I could be mentally sick, they are day dreamers because what I know noon of them knows and that will continue to revile itself in any political scenarios of Kenya and the whole of Africa . People who say truth have got nothing to lose, they are too proud to be bought, they are not afraid of telling any leader on their face the wrong that they are; we can live in both bad and good political systems and survive it all. Tell the people truth and they will tern against you by saying that now it’s a hate campaign, truth is truth and we need it in both sides, we have to tell the west the truth, the same truth we are telling our leaders because we need sustainable peace in the whole world, The political chaotic situation in the world today is the cause of the west, they know about it, am not going to bow dawn because am poor or because someone has got that big money and can kill me to shut my mouth, let as see how far they will go with the killing, I have to tell the world the truth and let the truth be known before they shut my mouth.

Kibaki is a beneficiary of that bad constitution and we do not see anything happening with him in power, America had the power to remove the most powerful dictator by name Sadam Hussein, why not do the same with Kibaki? Let’s plan for interim government and lets the west not dictate for us who should be in that interim government because they have always messed our politics and they continue messing it because they keep on relaying on Museveni who is the biggest political liar.

This is going to be a big revolution, all those who are members of Christianity by name will not manage to finish the fight, and you must be counted to belong to Christ’s family in order to win this campaign and not just a talk like the way they keep on barking at the parks.

The fight must continue, in God we trust and as Christ’s family we shall make it soon and very soon, if am not a politician, then am a good general, time will tell God bless, I request that this email will find its place at the White House to be read by the only person I respect on earth After God the father, Mr. President, we need real change for Africa, being hands off will not make Africa get out of this political nightmare. Failure to do so, you will be counted as part of that frustration that we face in Africa, already there is a belief that the suffering that Africa is faced with, the west has a hand in it, President Moi who later on became an enemy of the west was created by the same western power, same with former president of Zaire Mobutu, President Mugabe and even Museveni who has been the greatest baddy of United States, President Al Basher who was very important to the west at the time that oil was discovered in Sudan, a special study that need greater attention by Washington, Washington needs to move with the highest speed possible to correct its mistakes to African poor population.

Padwa

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Forwarded by Judy Miriga

Watch this……..

Kenyan minister quizzed over espionage claims
Minister for Labour John Munyes at a past function. The minister was on Thursday quizzed by the Defence and Foreign Relations Committee following allegations of engaging in espionage on behalf of the Khartoum government. PHOTO/ CHRIS OJOW

Minister for Labour John Munyes at a past function. The minister was on Thursday quizzed by the Defence and Foreign Relations Committee following allegations of engaging in espionage on behalf of the Khartoum government. PHOTO/ CHRIS OJOW
By CAROLINE WAFULAPosted Thursday, October 29 2009 at 22:00

President Kibaki receives the President of Southern Sudan Salva Kiir at Harambee House in Nairobi, on Tuesday. Photo: PPS

* Beef up security for minister, says House team after questioning him

The government has been asked to beef up security for Labour minister John Munyes as a diplomatic row over espionage claims involving Southern Sudan escalates.
The Defence and Foreign Relations Committee, which has launched an inquiry into the allegations, has asked Defence minister Yusuf Haji, Foreign Affairs minister Moses Wetang’ula and Internal Security minister George Saitoti to appear before it to assist in the investigations.

The director-general of the National Security Intelligence Service has also been summoned to give some information.
After holding a closed-door meeting to question the Labour minister on Thursday, the committee said at a press conference that foreign diplomats should respect Kenya and its government officials.

“We are not happy with the wild allegations against the minister and we hope the Sudanese Government will stand by them,” said Mr Edick Anyanga, a committee member.

“These are serious allegations and we expect the Government of Southern Sudan to confirm them to us in a letter and give us details,” the Nyatike MP said.

Mr Munyes was questioned over allegations he was a spy for the Khartoum Government during the two-hour meeting at Continental House.

He was also quizzed over his ownership of a Cessna aircraft, which has featured in the allegations.
Destabilise it

The Turkana North MP claimed some officials from Southern Sudan accused him of being bankrolled by Khartoum to buy weapons and spy on the country to destabilise it.

But the Southern Sudan minister for regional cooperation, Gen Oyay Deng Ajak, said his government had not accused the Kenyan minister or anybody in Kenya about anything.

Speaking after appearing before the committee, Mr Munyes said he co-owned the helicopter with a commercial bank.
He blamed his predicament on the leadership of the Toposa in Southern Sudan over the Turkana South-Southern Sudan border clashes.

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Judy Miriga
date Oct 31, 2009 9:10 AM
subject Fw: Re: Watch Out!!!!……….

Hi all,

Justus Wanga, Dr. Abonyo and some of the group copied here all have an agenda to divide Nilotics for their selfish ends (the usual handouts from politicians to acquire and dominate the Nilotic’s land for sale to Arabic Republic through instigating armed conflicts, a creation of endless war amongst the same family tree – so they can be squarters pushed to the concentration camps) – (there are no reason why Dinka’s and Nuer’s etc., should fight each other in the South, they are brothers). These people must be watched carefully.

This email is a window curtain and was from a very long long time communication which is now used to hoodwink and fool us. They are using this for a reason. They all belong to Ambassador Ogego and Tuju camp here in the USA who are fighting President Obama and are in the camp of Mt. Kenya Mafia with some Republican businessmen who are doing hate campaign against the USA President and they also belong to a team of Mt. Kenya Mafia. They already know that Padwa has left Confederation Council For Africa and they have an interest to prey and do more damage to good intention development conscious people. They want to use Padwa as a guinea pig for political surgery of divide and rule. Justus Wanga and Dr. Abonyo have personal hatred for PM Raila and are busy doing hate campaign on PM Raila and President of USA. They cannot justify their hateful mission. They are also not happy with the Unity of ODM. They can never be a force bigger than what God has put in place. God is changing things very peacefully and they do not see it.

This must stop……..

We must be more objectionable and face reality for life. We are not going to destroy life because of a few number. We also cannot continue to witch-hunt and stub each others on the back because of hand-outs which cannot suffice life for the majority. We must devise a more responsible forward thinking strategy which will help the masses not a few self-seekers. We want LOVE and UNITY so we can begin to CARE for one another. This is the WILL and PURPOSE of GOD’S CREATION.

Just beware……….

Justus, you already have enough of family problem in your plate and you know yourself, you should not look for trouble with me. Do not dig me because you will not like it when I turn to face you. You always shyed to face me and I know a lot about you and what you talk about me on my back. Let Dr. Abonyo go round trying to get people to fight me until he will get no one, he will then came back to face me directly that is when he will get what he is looking for. I know how Dr. Abonyo is going round spitting venon against me with hate, he started along way from the time of Demonstration 2007 Dec. and 2008 February when he tried to divide our group in Washington D.C. and failed. He hate to hear the name Judy Miriga…..it bothers him…..Dr. Abonyo, if you are not careful, we are about to wash you down in the open. You are a messenger of doom……(ero tiendi gidore ne rikni ichalo ja minembe – dhi ingiri e kiyoo ine kaka ichal – wiyi ombachni koso?). You will never get it!………..I just wonder, who or which Community in Africa Justus Wanga or Dr. Abonyo can lead if they cannot identify or remember their own backyards.

I sucrificed my life for the innocent community who are voiceless and are marginalized or are being undermined. I am doing it out of passion for humanity and it is a calling, these confused men cannot shake me.

Just a warning, please take note, that don’t mess with me…..We know the talk that have been taking its toll around your circles between Kenya and USA. Just know we are aware!…..

I respect Padwa for many reasons, and Padwa left to form his own NGO but we are not enemies……we still work in the circle of friends….some of us learned a long time that we cannot burn bridges……..so others with simple minds like you people should not take this as an opening to play dirty games, not with me. We have information all around us and we know when to strike, we will put you in your right places, God loves America and all creation of the world, this is why God is using America to rescue the world. God is performing a miracle and is causing the unity of the World through PEACE ADVOCACY that has never been seen before. But you do not push us to the wall……

The few hateful engines of Mt. Kenya Mafia with some Republicans is just a fly in a tea-cup. They cannot justify their hate, it is all from fear factor evil spirit. One good thing is that we know all their network and will soon be irrelevant. Your team who are in Sudan right now have failed to deliver to you, you are now trying to penetrate Southern Sudan through Padwa, you will not succeed.

Thank you all,

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com

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From: o j_k
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Watch Out!!!!……….

Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 12:45 PM

Hi Judy and Padwa.
Is there any evidence to these allegations?

1. “Justus Wanga, Dr. Abonyo and some of the group copied here all have an agenda to divide Nilotics for their selfish ends (the usual handouts from politicians to acquire and dominate the Nilotic’s land for sale to Arabic Republic through instigating armed conflicts, a creation of endless war amongst the same family tree”.

2. “They all belong to Ambassador Ogego and Tuju camp here in the USA who are fighting President Obama and are in the camp of Mt. Kenya Mafia with some Republican businessmen who are doing hate campaign against the USA President and they also belong to a team of Mt. Kenya Mafia”

3. “They want to use Padwa as a guinea pig for political surgery of divide and rule.”

4. “Justus Wanga and Dr. Abonyo have personal hatred for PM Raila and are busy doing hate campaign on PM Raila and President of USA”

5. “They are also not happy with the Unity of ODM.”

Dr. Abonyo that I know had been fighting for democratization of Kenya way long before the 2007 elections. Most of the money that funded the ODM campaign in the last general elections were as a result, to a large extent, to efforts of Dr. Abonyo and Dr. Omburo, among others. I personally do regard Dr. Abonyo in very high esteem.

Please share the evidence that proves your allegations so that I can come to an informed decision.

Love you.

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Judy Miriga
date Oct 31, 2009 12:43 PM
subject Re: Fw: Re: Watch Out!!!!……….

Odundo,

Dr. Abonyo knows what I am referring to and what I mean. I have direct conflict with him, he started confrontational with me and stepping on my toes and ever since he has never stopped or halted. He knows his link here in the USA he keeps strategizing with to bash me. Let him reply and defend himself. I am not sure if he has been informing you all he has been doing. All those who funded ODM does not mean they have Community interest at heart, you should find out why they funded ODM, was it favour they were looking for? I believe they did that because of their personal and business interest. He should explain why he is bashing me, and teaming with those Republicans who are bashing the USA President. If he has been in those corridors of Amb. Ogego, he should explain himself. If you step in for him and question for him, you are watering this matter down. He knows how he has connected with some women from Texas and he knows what he told them. If you regard him with esteem, I dont until we are able to sort out why he is digging a hole for me and bashing those in high esteem, whom we people of Africa Decent regard highly here in the USA.

Politics is not easy or cheap, I can only support politics of building but not politics of destroying, thats why I am vocal. We want true reformist who are able to dialogue with others and find solutions without confrontational or sidelining people. If PM Raila is a problem for him, he should find a better way to go about it without hurting others and explain himself and deliberate on how we can improve present scenario in Kenya to the benefit of the whole community. We know each and everyone has own weaknesses, but how do we go about those weaknesses without compromising the Community to the enemy is our number one concern and we are dealing with a lasting solution to solve a larger problem facing the country.

We all know Mt. Kenya Florida business network with the Florida Republicans he is teaming with who are connected with Amb. Ogego upto Boston, Massachussets, and we know all the Kenyan links with Boston including those luo pentecostal pastors and we know what they are up to. So go slow…….. Let him answer for himself. You may not know what you are dealing with. What did he promise those who gave him the money? How did he acquire the money to support ODM election? does that money demand or require returns? Is he under pressure to fulfil obligation under which money was given for ODM election? Was that money given for free or was it with string-attached? Check it out……we all want to know…….

This thing is bigger than what you think, that is why Amb. Ogogo is staying put in Washington D.C. even when he has become irrelevant with President Obama Administration. He has Mission to fulfil for his masters. We know it. But know that everything will be table in the open pretty soon…

We all know there is hunger in Africa but we will not compromise to be manipulated.

Good day……and I love you too.

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com