Monthly Archives: January 2009

Fwd: The World’s seen through the Israeli Government’s excuses

Educated people express themselves at Cambridge University: Let publicity not persuade people of any particular religious persuasion that force should be used to make a myth come true.

Now We’ve All Seen Through The Israeli Government’s Excuses
If Hamas rockets are so lethal, why doesn’t Israel swap an F-16 for some?

Source: The Independent, 21-01-2009

By Mark Steel

The worrying part about whether the ceasefire in Gaza can hold together will be whether the international community can stop the flow of arms to the terrorists. Because Israel’s getting their planes and tanks and missiles from somewhere and until this supply is cut off there’s every chance it could start up again.

The disregard for life from these terrorists and their supporters is shocking. For example Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist, wrote that the purpose of the Israeli attack must be to “inflict a heavy death toll and heavy pain on the Gaza population”.

Replace “Gaza” with “western”, and that could have been written by al-Qa’ida. Maybe this is the problem: the Israelis are writing their policies by downloading statements from a (so-called) “Islamic Jihad” website and just changing the place names. Also, if the Israelis think the Hamas rockets are as lethal as they say, why don’t they swap their F-16 fighters and Apache helicopters for a few of them?

These things are capable of terrorizing a whole nation for years apparently, yet the Israelis have neglected to buy any, wasting their money on gunboats and stuff. Given that their annual arms budget is $7.2bn plus $2.2bn in “aid”, they’d save enough to buy a selection of banks in every country in the world.

The military advantages would be enormous because the Israelis’ complaint about Hamas is the use of tunnels to smuggle arms. But if Israel gave Hamas a few planes and tanks and helicopters, they could probably be persuaded to shut down those tunnels that seem to be the cause of such bad feeling.

Whatever you say about Israel, at least it moves its weapons about legally – except for when it secretly built a nuclear arsenal against an array of international agreements. But they did it above ground and not in a tunnel and that’s the main thing.

Watching the reports from Gaza, another reason why the ceasefire may break down becomes apparent. The Israelis might claim that their satellite pictures now show Palestinians in possession of huge mounds of rubble – lethal if thrown over the border. Luckily these weapons are easy to spot. Most of them are next to women howling, “Look what they’ve done to my house,” but perhaps the airforce should bomb them again – just in case. The Israelis say they fear Hamas will once again break the ceasefire by sending over those rockets. But the whole point of the operation was to make that impossible. Because they must have asked themselves the question, “If we slaughter 1,300 people, including 300 children, is that likely to make people: A. less cross or B. more cross?” And presumably they concluded it will make them much less likely to grow up full of hatred and determination to retaliate. Perhaps they saw medical research that shows when someone is suffering from anxiety and bouts of irascible ill-tempered behaviour, the best treatment is to pen them in with no food or medicine and then kill some of them, and that calms them down a treat.

Another way to allay their worries about Hamas breaking the ceasefire is to read the report from their government’s own Intelligence and Terrorism Information Centre. This states that during the ceasefire “Hamas did not take part in any rocket fire and sometimes prevented other organizations from attacking.” Still, with all that’s been going on I suppose they haven’t had time for reading.

Despite all this there might be one cheery sign, which is that never before have so many people seen through the Israeli government’s excuses for handing out mass destruction. The demonstrations in support of Palestinians have been bigger than ever before, and even the United Nations and the Wall Street Journal have suggested Israel has committed war crimes.
One poll in America suggested that 60 per cent of people opposed the bombardment, and the change of opinion reached the point that an Israeli diplomat has admitted that “The harm to civilians in Gaza is causing us huge damage.”

Maybe, best of all, was genetics expert Steven Rose who appeared on Radio 4’s Today program to talk about a new study that’s located “morality spots”, the part of the brain that deals with our morality. Asked how we could know whether this was true, he said in a marvelously posh academic Radio 4 voice “Well we could test the brains of the Israeli cabinet and see if they’ve got no morality spots whatsoever.”

And the most immoral part of all is the perfectly cynical timing, as if three weeks ago Bush shouted: “Last orders please. Any last bombing, before time’s up? Come along now, haven’t you got homes to demolish?”

G Mohamed Jiwa

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:28:04 +0530 [01/29/2009 11:58:04 AM CST]
From: Mohamed Jiwa
Subject: Fwd: The World’s seen through the Israeli Government’s excuses

isn’t it obvious why Nakumatt burnt

SPACE is the word and the reason for the inferno, electrical problem is a gimmick , that fire was started by someone inside. with the recent closure of some of the rather old building at the CBD , new developers want to build sky scrappers and now that land is on the fritzs, they are now encroaching into old nairobi, (in the next few months you will see for yourselfs’ river road and other areas) at the rate which the land rates are increasing , developers are making owners offers they cant refuse. ( the universal college building that was resently closed) the building is set to be redone or built afresh by a new developer, so as there is need for development, of new high class offices for an expanding work force Anyway , am sure Nakumatt had signed something very binding, with the owner of the building and so to get out of such a legal tie , the only thing to do is to do something like a fire where the leasee has insured its commodities, so you pay a disgruntled employee some cash to open a gas cylinder and also tamper with the so called generatetor and then you get your fire started, i know its a sad story, but with time this is what will go down.

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:32:03 +0300 [01/29/2009 10:32:03 AM CST]
From: tom mutua
Subject: isn’t it obvious why Nakumatt burnt

Re: Victory for ministers in Waki envelope

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:52:57 -0800 [09:52:57 AM CST]
From: Dickson mathai
Subject: Re: Victory for ministers in Waki envelope ……………….

My dear sister Jayne,u r juz as worried as i am.These people are now virtually free and i will tell you what will happen next.They will form a ‘tribunal’.And after forming that tribunal they will politicise it from within.What i mean is,they will start fighting each other from within the tribunal itself and then si tribunal ita fail.Watakuja watuambie that that waki report was bad and they dint support it right from the start.That is why we can see now,people who were opposed to it vile ilitoka now support it,coz they know the game plan.The end result of all this will be that they will be free,no one will touch them and they will be cleared of wrong doings,crucify Justice waki and 2012 vie for presidency and other parliamentary posts.Have you ever asked yourself why terrorist organisations develop and grow?

— On Tue, 1/27/09, Jayne Wachira wrote:

From: Jayne Wachira
Subject: Victory for ministers in Waki envelope ……………….
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 10:57 PM

Hi good people

Am troubled this morning and I beg to ask ”why should policians named in the Waki report having been accused of crimes against humanity and violence that almost tore this country apart countinue to hold office and only required to step aside after investigations have confirmed that they have a case to answer?”

Re: Nakumatt Poleni

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:31:01 +0000 [09:31:01 AM CST]
From: JOSHUA MUTUNGA
Subject: Re: Nakumatt Poleni

I saw initial smoke clouds from Telposta Towers. It was absolutely scaring. Initially I thought it was from the other side of the street (Stanbic area). I wish it happened at night – well, more material loss but at least I would imagine much less shopping (one of the the 24 hr branches, right?) and thus better chances to escape. All the same pole to Nakumatt and those others closely affected. To all of us, poleni because this is great investment gone up in flames, loss of jobs, insurance compensation up in flames, lots of water and effort used, deterioration of nearby premises, pollution to environment etc. And to those of you who stood nearby blocking the emergency services and counting on that chance to loot, shame on you! At least you inhaled toxic fumes which will bring you down and unfortunately deplete our medical facilities. Go hang!

H.M. Josh

— On Wed, 28/1/09, Wycliffe Ouma wrote:

From: Wycliffe Ouma
Subject: Nakumatt Poleni
Date: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 2:29 PM

I would like to register my sympathy to the Nakumatt Holdings and entire staff for the fire explosion on Nakumatt Downtown.

I hope God shall see you through the material loss and emotional grief that you are going through.


Wycliffe Ouma
Regional Coordinator – Western
Kenya Alliance for Advancement of Children (KAACR),
P.O Box 6853, Kondele,
Kisumu
Tel. +254-57-2025453
Cell. +254-725790184
+254-738838653
Email-wyckyus@gmail.com
Web-www.kaacr.com

*********************************************
I believe I shall get there!

Re: KILLINGS OF ALBINOS IN THE REPUBLIC OF TANZANIA.

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:59:54 +0300 [08:59:54 AM CST]
From: Robert Alai
Subject: Re: KILLINGS OF ALBINOS IN THE REPUBLIC OF TANZANIA.

Anne

I agree. I saw some 10 Albinos arriving at Akamba last week and I believe they must have been from Tanzania

Tanzanians, stand up and stop this.

Robert

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Anne Kimani wrote:

Time for people with albinism to get refugee status in nations that will not discriminate/kill them. It is genocide.

Anne Kimani
Kigali, Rwanda.

Kiambu Kengeru
28/01/2009 04:17PM
Subject KILLINGS OF ALBINOS IN THE REPUBLIC OF TANZANIA.

Page last updated at 13:03 GMT, Monday, 26 January 2009
Tanzania ‘healers’ flout ban

Al-Shymaa Kway-Geer, Tanzania’s first albino MP Tanzania’s only albino MP has been trying to fight prejudice

Traditional healers in Tanzania are defying a government ban announced on Friday, intended to stop the killings of people with albinism for ritual medicine.

A BBC correspondent has seen at least 10 healers working openly.

It comes days after the latest murder of an albino man in Tanzania brought the national death toll to at least 40 since mid-2007.

The killers reportedly sell albino body parts – including limbs, hair, skin and genitals – to witchdoctors.

Prime Minister Mizengo Pinda said on Friday the government was revoking the licences of all traditional healers with immediate effect.

Leg chopped off

“These witchdoctors are big liars,” he said at a rally in the northern Shinyanga region.

But the BBC’s Vicky Ntetema said it was business as usual for the traditional healers she visited on Monday just outside the biggest city Dar es Salaam.

I believe it would have been better if the PM had consulted us before announcing the ban Haruna Kifimbo

Traditional healer

A spokesman for a traditional healers’ association has criticised the ban.

Arusha-based herbalist Haruna Kifimbo told the Citizen newspaper: “We are legally registered, they should be dealing with some state organs who have not done much to stop the wave of albino killings.”

He claimed members of his association were offering services to more than 30% of the country’s population.

“We have so many patients and clients who depend on us,” he told the Citizen. “I believe it would have been better if the PM had consulted us before announcing the ban.”

In the most recent case last Wednesday an albino man – named as Jonas Maduka – was killed in Sogoso village in the north-western Mwanza region.

He was reportedly eating dinner at home when some people called and asked for his help.

When he went outside he was strangled, before his assailants chopped off his leg and made away with the limb.

The Tanzanian authorities have arrested more than 90 people in recent months – including four police officers – on suspicion of killing albinos or of trading in their body parts.

There are thought to be more than 200,000 albinos in the country, which has a total population of 40 million.

The killings have spread to neighbouring states, with at least one albino murder each in Burundi and Kenya last year.

Re: what can wanabidii do about the hunger stricken areas?

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:49:33 +0300 [08:49:33 AM CST]
From: Harun Kaburia
Subject: Re: what can wanabidii do about the hunger stricken areas?

Seconded!

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Mathew Mue wrote:

Robert,
that’s a lovely idea. We could also have a venue to drop food stuff and even old garments that people and their family do not use.

In addition guys, as you prepare to deliver your stuff to BIDII, also check your neighbour, both in town and upcountry and pass something to them if they are suffering.

all the best,

From: Pokman Restaurant
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: what can wanabidii do about the hunger stricken areas?

The government should tap resources within the country since
As some starve, Nyandarua farmers are feeding cattle with ‘sukuma wiki’


Pokman Restaurant
Kipande Road, Ambu House, Near the National Museum of Kenya
P.O.Box 02200 67304, Nairobi, Kenya
Tel: 0722430377, 0721540577
E-mail: pokmanrestaurant@gmail.com

On 1/28/09, Robert Alai wrote:

Beth

I have requested guys to miss lunch everyday for two weeks and the money you could have spent on lunch for every working day please you donate it to the hunger fund or bring the food we will take it to turkana

Its called “Wanabidii Missed a Lunch”

What do you guys think

Robert

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM, beth muthoni wrote:

Robert i guess you can lead us into doing something about the hunger striken people?

This is a noble idea Bennah

From: Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:03:39 PM

Subject: Re: what can wanabidii do about the hunger stricken areas?

Agreed. Very positive gesture


Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Tel: 0720801165

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Bennah Mugambi wrote:

Compliment of the day to you all. I believe this forum holds most intelligent persons who can also contribute to the society especially for our brothers and sisters in Turkana and other places that are affected.

Robe kindly sambaza this and i believe we together we can do something.

Bennah

Re: Nairobi is Burning

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:23:47 -0800 [08:23:47 AM CST]
From: Jackson Kibuchi
Subject: Re: Nairobi is Burning

THEY SENT A POLICE HELICOPTER WHICH WAS JUST HOOVERING AROUND DOING NOTHING INSTEAD OF SENDING A FIRE FIGHTING CHOPER. DURING ROBERRIES THEY DONT EVEN SEND THIS CHOPER TO TRACK THR ROBBERS.
Jack

— On Wed, 1/28/09, Sifa Wefu wrote:

From: Sifa Wefu
Subject: Re: Nairobi is Burning
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:03 AM

Thanks Maureene. I didn’t think it was that bad.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Maureene Mushira wrote:

Some photos
From: Robert Alai
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: Nairobi is Burning

And the Kenyan media is showing Cartoon Network. Where are the OB vehicles and equipment which they borrow when Parlaiment is opening?

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Sammy Njenga wrote:
What is burning?

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In one historical drama film, A. Hitler is portrayed as placing a phone call to one of his field commanders on the scene. His question, and the movie title too, was, “Is Paris burning?” He’d instructed it be torched, upon retreat.

– – awm – –
2009 jan 28, wed.;

Re: Khalwale: Waso Millers connected to Ruto

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:10:33 +0300 [08:10:33 AM CST]
From: Robert Alai
Subject: Re: Khalwale: Waso Millers connected to Ruto

Waso Millers is owned by Wife of the late Guracha Galgalo and it seems that Ruto they say is lungulaing the mama? Yaani Khalwale has issues

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Robert Alai wrote:

Ababu Namwamba, Rachel Shebesh, Charles Keter and Niicholas Ruto blocked the submission by Khalwale. You see people here protecting their tribes.

Shebesh wants us to believe that she is not tribal. She is very very tribal. Midiwo also protecting Ruto for Raila

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Robert Alai wrote:

Guys

The speaker blocked the debate defering it for another one week and so Khalwale would have been bribed already and told to keep quiet

Now we are getting the Parliamentary repoort on Grand regency and Kimunya and Michuki are ttrying to derail it

Robert

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Charles Munene Kiura wrote:

Let us know the truth, even when they dont own anything


Regards,

Kiura C. Munene

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM, swahili ken wrote:

stop the stupit Khalwale wht does he own apart from WOmen

— On Wed, 1/28/09, Alice Okello wrote:

From: Alice Okello
Subject: Re: Khalwale: Waso Millers connected to Ruto
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 5:13 AM

Robert,
please keep us updated.

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Robert Alai wrote:

Guys

Khalwale has said that Waso Millers is related to Ruto

The bags taken by the company is 16,503

Namwamba is interrupting

Robert

Re: The Middle Class in Kenya

I believe the Middle Class can save Kenya.

These are professionals who are or have paid for their houses, they drive their cars, they can afford to take their children to school and they do take care of their parents back at home. In the process, they do not live on hand-outs from politicians.

They have all that it takes to save Kenya. Because most of the Middle Class have kept off politics and party politics, politics has been invaded by charlatans who have no idea at management. Look at the cast that has led Kenya since Independence in 1963.

We set off at Independence with a clear resolve to eradicate poverty and illiteracy, create shelter for all, secure food for all Kenyans, access Kenyans to medicine and water and electricity, and to move the country forward.

What do we have in Kenya now, 46 years down the line?

Poverty is rampant. Illiteracy is at its peak. Shelter in most towns is unaffordable and mostly houses are not built to specifications required by law. Kenyans are dying of hunger now as our leaders steal all the available maize. Our Hospitals are not well stocked with medicine and water has not reached towns like Kisumu that sit at the shore of the second largest water Lake in the World. Electricity has become a political tool for campaigns, it is not there regularly even in Nairobi.

This basically means that the cast that we left politics to have failed. In this cast, we have the same people who have been there since Independence. They might have been brilliant then, but if their brilliance has not led to the fulfillment of the mandate for which they set out to achieve at Independence 46 years ago, they cannot achieve it now.

They Least Common Factor, as matheticians would say is; thievery. This is where they all bond. All of them.

All this failure has been occasioned simply because the Middle Class have chosen to take a casual attitude to life in Kenya. We pretend that we can afford the basics as the charlatans in politics mess the country. We have not put them to strict order of proof and accountability.

For Christs sake, this is also our country. We must rise up and engage the country, in the process, we will save Kenya. We must mobilize Kenyans against tribalism, a tool that these charlatans have perfected to divide us with. Let us surprise them by eradicating tribalism amonst us.

We must start by consigning all these thieves in government to Siberia. If need be, let us petition our Big Brothers to help us consign these people to History. If they have got it all wrong in 46 years, can they get it right now? The US and the UK must know this.

The Middle Class must start mass mobilization against all these people in government. We must come up and support a completely new person to take up leadership in Kenya. We do not need anybody with experience, for the kind of experience these guys have is all the same. They are all experts at stealing.

Just imagine if these guys would have spent the kind of resourcefulness that they have in Nation Building! Do you think Kenya could be suffering hunger 46 years down the line as politicians steal food? Do you think teachers could be going on strike as the politicians steal food?

Do you think shelter could be an issue as politicians steal food? Do you think medicine could be an issue as politicians steal food?

And what has become of all the Donor Funding and Grants we have received since 1963?

Odhiambo T Oketch,
Komarock Nairobi

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 04:51:47 -0800 [06:51:47 AM CST]
From: odhiambo okecth
Subject: The Middle Class in Kenya

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I agree, middle class can and should have saved Kenya by now but…

Unless they get out of the comfort of their offices and rented homes to participate in mass matches and other political processes, saving Kenya is just but a dream.

We need to be bold and support each other however “small” the resources we have. I will be very happy for example if we make our presence known the next time KFF holds national elections, just like we love Arsenal,Man Untd,chelsea etc………..and many other elective offices before we even dream of the house on the hill.

Unite,avoid the joy of comfort in small things ( even big things are small when the country is not alright) and change will come, real change that will save Kenya.

Cheburet

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:14:36 -0800 [10:14:36 AM CST]
From: moses cheburet
Subject: Re: The Middle Class in Kenya

World Economic Forum- Does It Help To Reduce Poverty

Hi people
While the great,rich and wealthy will be celebrating their greatness,richness and especially wealth while being entertained by great music from great musicians at Davos Summit Imean big Business Investors and Finance Ministers

But majority of global population will be gradual drowning into misery,poverty,starvation and civil wars.

Big Companies like Cargill will be literally pulling food out of children mouths as they speculate on commodities prices (They hold a third of global grains-wheat,corn,etc)

Factories will be closing down not for servicing but because of bankruptcy.

Workers will be jobless not because of being unproductive but because of downsizing.

The sick will be dying in hospitals not because they want to but because medicine has gone beyond their reach.

Children and old will be looking very frail and weak not because they are unhealthy but due to unavailability of food and nutrition

Now which brings me to a very pertinent suggestion

Can Youth from Kenya unite and carry jerrycans of water all the way from Indian Ocean to Irrigate North Eastern, everything is possible if Wright brothers made a plane and now we have Spaceships with over 10tonnes of mass floating in space

Can Kenya youth and old speak in one voice and reduce corruption so that maize,oil scandals becomes things of the past hence food can reach those in dear need like that Lady Standard Newspaper showed today

If our fore fathers pulled together and made Railway line from Mombasa to Kisumu we can also do it

We can build better health care,better schools,better sports facilities ,better roads,pay teachers

Thanks
Gibson Amenya

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:25:21 +0300 [06:25:21 AM CST]
From: amenya gibson
Subject: World Economic Forum- Does It Help To Reduce Poverty

LOCAL LEADERS WARNED TO KEEP OFF THE OPARATIONS OF CHEMELIL SUGAR COMPANY AND ITS NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM.

Business News By Leo Odera Omolo.

RIDOKAM, a community based organization, which is serving the exclusive economic and business interests of the residents of Kano Plains, in Nyando district has registered a new firm whose directors are the entrepreneurs from the locality.

The company, which has a limited liability is called Noo Development Agency Limited{Inda Ltd}.The new firm, however, will open its shares to all interested parties and individual, even those from outside the Kano Plains.

The aims and objectives of the newly formed commercial company is to acquire the majority shares in all the six sugar manufacturing factories, located in the Nyanza Sugarbelt within Nyando district. “This is a step forward to empower the local community economically, said a statement released by its chairman Mzee Walter Kitoto Adell”

Commonly known as Riwruok Dongo Kano Manyien {RIDOKA},the new company is aiming at mobilizing its members to raise money for the purpose of buying shares in the existing sugar company or for outright purchase of the same facilities.

The sugar factories at stake include Kibos, Miwani, Chemelil,and Muhoroni. Also targeted for acquisition is the nearby Agrochemical Company. The group also wanted to control the Ahero and West Kano Rice pilot schemes as parts of its ambition to empower the locals economically.

Inda Ltd, has its directors under the chairmanship of MZEE Walter Kitoto Adel, the company secretary is Samuel Anyango. Other interim directors include Ridoka m Secretary James Onyango, Stephen Ogawa.

Other members of its board Gilbert Onunga, Rdokam’s Treasurer, Joshua Kidiga, Henry Ngeso Nyawina.

The group said in a hastl called press conference held at the Kisumu Ken yatta Sports ground that the residents of Kano plains have never benefited .from these sugar factories, though, all are situated within their ancestral land./”Our people have yet to reap the fruits of these factories although all are allocated exclusively on our ancestral land. Our people have never secured important jobs in these industries to to-date,” he said.

He went on, “Kano people are therefore wished to remind the government that they are vehemently opposed to the controversial sales of the 10,000 acres nucleus estate farm of Miwani Sugar Mills in piecemeal. But if the government want to off-load its share in the company, then the Kano people the indigenous owner of the land on which the factory stand should be given priority and consideration first before anyone elses.

Mzee Adell disclosed that the wishes of the Kano people in regards to the changfe of guards in the key sugar manufacturing industries located within the Nyanza sugarbelt has already been communicated to the relevant Ministries of Trade, Industries ,Agriculture and the Provincial Administration in the region..

“We are also demanding that the land leases for most of the sugar factories, which is ninety nine years, particularly that of Miwani Sugar Company, which was issued in 1906 has expired. If the government cannot revive Miwani, then the land should revert to its original owners. It was taken away from us by the colonialist on the understanding that the sugar industry was meant for the creation of employment and other benefits.But Miwani land has remained fallow and uncultivated for close to ten year now ever since the firm was placed under the official receivership.

“Our people are demanding that they be given back their land if there is no tangiblke development taking place in the area,”he said.

At the same time Mr. Adell advised local politicians, the Muhoroni Mp included to desist from antagonistic activities against the new team of management at the Chemelil Sugar Company. WE want these people to be left alone, and out of reach for politicians, so that the new management could turn the facility around to profitability instead of perennial loss making ,” he said.

Ends

leooderaomolo@yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:57:57 -0800 [05:57:57 AM CST]
From: Leo Odera Omolo
Subject: LOCAL LEADERS WARNED TO KEEP OFF THE OPARATIONS OF CHEMELIL SUGAR COMPANY AND ITS NEW MANAGEMENT TEAM.

Re: Ruto on maize prices

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:34:51 -0800 [03:34:51 AM CST]
From: stellah lubanga
Subject: Re: Ruto on maize prices

Let all make some sense from this maize prices

Fertizer last year was Kes 4,200/- per bag
Planting cost/weeding/harvesting -(Remember the fuel prices for farming)
Cost of maize at the board is Kes 1,800/- (Farmers payment)

Farmers are demands ionly Kes 2,500/- for their maize

Lets now import the maize duty free at 2,500/- who is being fooled….???????TEACHERS THE FARMERS OR KENYANS.

Wake up my countrymen/women??

— On Wed, 1/28/09, Alice Okello wrote:

From: Alice Okello
Subject: Re: Ruto on maize prices
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 12:12 AM

Doreen,

you were either not listening or you did not want to listen. he clearly stated the reasons for the shortage

1. 2.5 million bags burnt during post election violence
2. Failed rains caused another shortage
3.After and during post election violence, farmers did not farm.

all these resulted in the short fall of 10 million bags

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:41 AM, doreen gitari wrote:

Harun, agreed.

What is the cost of transporting a bag of maize from say Kitale to kibwezi? the only thing i got from the interview was the figures, otherwise, there wasnt even the slightest justification/excuse for the importation of maize at inflated prices.After all, the maize farmers only demand like 500 more for a bag.

Can someone please make me understand why the only statement to argue his case was “the problem in Kenya now is that there is a shortage of maize…” y did he not tell us what has occassioned the shortage, whether it is an artificial shortage or for real there is a shortage? He needs to be told that we arent fools and can read in between the lines.

Harun, thenx for raising this issue

Why cant Commission Reports be Made Public?

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:22:12 +0000 [01/27/2009 02:22:12 PM CST]
From: Kennedy Oduor
Subject: Why cant Commission Reports be Made Public?

Since 2002 when Kibaki became the President through a popular mandate, so many commissions and task forces have been formed using tax payers money but surprisingly they haven’t been made public. Why are Kenyans not demanding these reports to be made public? and why is Kibaki treated Kenyans with such contempt and disrespect? Cant we demand that the following reports be made public:
1.The Ndungu Land Report
2.The Ouko Commission Report
3.The Kiruki Commission Report/Artur brothers report
4.The Kiplangat Report on the Constitution
5.The Cockar Report on Grand Regency
6.The Goldenberg Report by Bosire

And the other two reports following the post election violence. Are these reports only made for Kibaki or for Kenyans? Please lets demand their release to the public immediately.

— On Tue, 27/1/09, jennifer gatero wrote:

From: jennifer gatero
Subject: Re: This Raila issue is tribal! I am sad, Kenya will go nowhere!
Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 8:38 AM

It really doesn’t seem to matter what Raila does, his people will defend him. I am a kikuyu but i will never defend kibaki. i wont defend ANYONE in this government no matter where they are from, they are all selfish theives and non performers!

I think i am going to leave this country, its frustrating to be here. The government is shit but the problem is not with them , its with kenyans. i keep getting replies about what raila has NOT done, how about someone gives me a list of what he HAS done?

i give up. let me move to a first world country and leave kenyans with their stupidity to rot.

Shameful scandalous cover-up at Barclays Bank of Kenya Limited

A warm welcome to

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and

http://michaelmundiakamau.webs.com

Read about the recklessness, mismanagement, abuse, excesses, victimisation, negligence and ineptitude that led to the collapse of Barclays Advisory and Registrar Services Limited, a wholly owned subsidiary of Barclays Bank of Kenya Limited.

Read about how top executives of Barclays in Kenya, South Africa and the United Kingdom knew about the badly deteriorating situation at Barclays Advisory and Registrar Services Limited, but did nothing about it.

Also read about a lengthy saga on massive cross-border stock market fraud, involving Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Ethiopia, South Africa, the United Kingdom and possibly, the United States of America, which contributed to the collapse of Barclays Advisory and Registrar Services Limited, which has also been covered-up and which also remains unresolved

Take a look also, at other material of public interest

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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:29:46 +0300 [01/27/2009 10:29:46 AM CST]
From: Mundia Kamau
Subject: Shameful scandalous cover-up at Barclays Bank of Kenya Limited

Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere!

Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:22:51 -0800 [01/27/2009 07:22:51 AM CST]
From: onguru daniel
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!

wanabidii! it’s cool to criticize, accuse, defend and even get personal…but what i see in eric is a boldness that is appreciable, providing there is sustainable and not-easy-to-wither evidence! while appreciating our individual roles in shaping this country, let us not delve into a crescendo of hearsay, rumours and wild guess…our duty is to hold our leadership accountable, not account for their misdeeds, or imagine thus! let us all gear our attention to a focused opinion-giving and sharing generation!

— On Tue, 1/27/09, martin kiiru wrote:

From: martin kiiru
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 3:08 AM

People,
When you start discussing guilt or innocence of public figures facts are often ignored, because some people will follow emotion rather than reason. What’s needed in government is accountability and transparency, then the guilty will have nothing to hide behind & the honest ones will be visible. With all the posturing and threats it’s impossible for us to make decisions on guilt. Everyone’s capable of being corrupted, even those we have made demi-gods. In the absence of all the relevant facts, i suggest that it must be one of our ministers’ responsibilities to remain above reproach, and that those who do not step aside for their names to be cleared or condemned.
On a not so separate note, might i suggest following China’s lead in tackling corruption, and bring back capital punishment for those found guilty of corruption?

2009/1/27 Grace Asimba

Why should Raila go and where? To start with, everybody should know that Raila is not a fool enough to mention a media house and go further to say “I will deal with them later”. Despite the fact that he mentioned a sensitive issue about media freedom, he was direct and on a light note.

The people who claimed to be whistle blowers on his involvement on the maize scandal should come out and give the public more evidences on the same. These fellow Kenyans are working in the interest of other human beings by trying to give our 2012 president a bad picture.

Raila is working under very hard situations whereby he has to keep the coalition and the country together lest he is said to be a spoiler. The only way to do that is not to take extremely pragmatic steps that will shuffle feathers of the opposite side of the coalition.
Measure wealth not by the things you have, but by the
things you have for which you would not take money.

— On Tue, 1/27/09, Omondi Amos K’Ogal wrote:

From: Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Subject: Re: Raila must go- Where? Raila is not going anywhere! He’s the people’s president!
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:19 AM

For those you have supported Raila and are LUO’s, they will tell you that its common for raila to be angry, and in most cases, he would express it in Luo. I have heard of so many instances, where for example, someone heckle in a crowed and he would say………. you know.

All said, the fact is that Raila is one of the most honest politicians in Kenya. I looked at the names of the people sacked from the NCPB and noticed one thing, if you did, it fine, but for those who never noticed anything its upto you. Corruption in kenya can be handled by Ministry of Internal security through intelligent, KACC and the OP. Period. i dare anyone to challenge me on this.

About the media, I think one guys in this forum has been consistent. He is Alai. He know the media so well. If the elections were not stolen, we would have new faces at KACC who would do the work, not to protect.

For the media, am sorry for them. Raila is the only guy who can protect their interest.

thanks


Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Tel: 0720801165

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Jenkins Kimiya wrote:

Nixon,
I agree with you 100% people are worried of 2012 stiff competition and they’re therefore planning early! We can not be fooled men! Roaila is not involved in those scandals! Bring up the evidence and lets prove it that he was involved!
Stop tainting Raila’s name people in this forum are being used by politicians to corrupt other members minds and suggesting possible candidates for 2012 and even bringing funny ideas! We have grown out of those petty politics, let not wanabidii be fooled by petty politics! Sorry, we’re not buying those ideas! Be aware of even people changing names just to convince wanabidii that they come from Raila’s Tribe and they don’t like him. Don’t be fooled!!! They recent Polls show Raila is still the people’s Choice!
Wanabidii, be aware of politicians and their agents in this forum! Let people campaign maturely not using these dirty politics in this forum!

Jenkins

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:17 AM, eric odhiambo wrote:

Lets not beat about the bush, raila is deeply rooted in these two scandals. He has alot to hide. Amekula, aende. Its time we overcame tribal affiliations and looked for quality in leadership.

People RAILA ODINGA MUST GO!

Re: kisumu

Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:35:22 -0800 [09:35:22 AM CST]
From: boniface onyango
Subject: Re: kisumu

Thathi,
This is just to re-enforce that you will never see a Luo eating snakes just because of Hunger. Just to ask you, have you ever heard that the govt of Kenya is taking relief food in Luo nyanza? Even though there is poverty due to politics of this country, Jaluo or Jaruo will never eat snakes due to hunger. the guy who ate snake at obunga estates ni Mtiriki-Luhya community. Get it right.

Bonny

— On Wed, 1/28/09, Felix Otiato wrote:

From: Felix Otiato
Subject: Re: kisumu
Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 6:31 AM

Since I was born i have never heard of hunger ravishing Nyanza like other parts of the country. The people who can complain are the poor who are broke but it is hard to witness acute food shortage in Nyanza. A luo can never eat snakes. What would a snake huge enough to be eaten doing in Nyawita? This is not rocket science: the snakes found in green or semi green climates (like lake shores) are too tiny (and largely harmless). That guy was just trying to feature on TV and got the animal from somewhere drier. Mtiriki kama ana njaa si arudi kwao-he is spoiling our name!!! Thathi should have asked before making a conclusion.

Regards,
Felix Otiato
0722986617/0733435587

On 1/28/09, Omondi Amos K’Ogal wrote:

Then why say Kisumu aas the headline. He should have said Hunger in Kenya. I still hold that Luo’s are very proud men, thats why you will find a Mzee, hungry, with a suit, looking after his cows ontop of a mountain. PERIOD.

On 1/28/09, Joyce Opondo wrote:

Hey Wanabidii,

To come to Thathi’s defence, Someone was indeed featured eating a snake on NTV last night in Nyawita just outside Kisumu town. That man may have been a Luo or a Kisii (who are very many in Nyawita), a Kikuyu or a Chonyi or from any tribe. Kenya is cosmopolitan. He said he was eating it due to hunger. However, the reporter was skeptical and said that he could have been doing it for sometime and this time had no option when he was witnessed eating it except to say it is due to hunger.

People have been hungry for decades and decades. I have never heard that they resort to eating snakes. However, snakes are eaten in Thailand. If you have ever traveled by Singapore airlines, then you have probably eaten snake and thought what a sweet meat dish that was, he he he.

Just my bit,

J

Joyce Opondo
P O Box 2589
KISUMU.

Tel: 0720801165

On 1/28/09, Maryann Wanjiru wrote:
Jane,

Is that a threat by any chance?

Im sure he must have seen it somewhere for him to tell us, i mean snake eating in kisumu caused chaos in 2007???

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, JANE OLOO wrote:

Renolds
I agree wholeheartedly. It is attitudes like that of Thathi that resulted in the chaos of 2007. Be careful what you say Thathi. Others may pay the price for your carelessness,
Jane


JANE OLOO

On 1/28/09, RENOLDS CHEPTUMO wrote:

Thathi,

That is an insult to the people of Kisumu, and even if I am not a luo myself, I want to stand up against what “you understand”. I mean why did you have to make such a posting in a forum where people seek to interract and exchange ideas? is it that you lacked something better to say? or is it that you are got up with the tribalism cancer engulfing our country?, to be fair to you, if at all it is true that the people there are eating snakes because of hunger, then we should be ashamed of it and it is not something to be joked about.

——————————
*From:* Omondi Amos K’Ogal
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2009 1:11:05 PM
*Subject:* Re: kisumu

STOP it please. Kisumu guys are very proud (luo), thats why they rejected ‘donation’ from DOMINION. They will never eat snake, while you can just cross over and get rech everywhere.

I doubt if there is a place you can get a snake to be eaten.


Omondi Amos K’Ogal
Tel: 0720801165

On 1/28/09, Bernard Thathi wrote:

I understand that foreigners are flocking kisumu to see the second wonder of snake eaters due to hunger rather than to see the ancestral home of obama

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Re: Raila Misquaoted

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:15:37 -0800 [05:15:37 PM CST]
From: Makele
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted

Nick

Waiting for a BA in whatever doesn’t mean that you know anything about the Mafia in Kenyan media. I don’t see what the KTN and its foreign dominated programming and overworking its employees is bringing to Kenya. Raila erred by I dont see why the Kenyan media is always holding someone aat ransom.

I witnessed a bad thing in sometime back when KTn highlighted a case where they said a teacher canned a student in Bul Bul primary school until the child passed out. It wasnt true. Infact the school has a discipline problem that primary school childdren are out of control and when you try to discipline any, you are marked and you will be disciplined yourself.

The teacher had to pay throguh his nose to settle the KTN allegations outside the court. The media didnt do the research and just punished a teacher who was doing his job.

Nick, you will not be famous by fighting Raila and Kibaki. Infact I see where you are heading. you are looking more like a fool looking for attention to score imaginary points without any facts. You copy paste media propaganda without a single backing of your allegations. You are a simple student waiting for hi ‘BA Degree’ so that he can get employment in KTN. Support them. Maybe they will employ you

On Jan 26, 11:33 pm, nicholas oyoo wrote:

Robert

Am just awaiting graduation on a BA Media and Journalism – Development Communication option. I have studied alot of media ownership issues. And I can tell you it is not only media owners that are the gatekeepers in the media. Even editors, and the bit journalist too.

But the matter we are dealing with here is that kind where the ‘victim’ Raila, gave room for his own crucifiction. Frankly I even questioned why the media never took Atwoli to task over the statements that he knows who the (maize) cartels are and is using this infromation which can save lives as tool for some form of blackmail. and even when Raila told residents in Eastleigh that he knows when maizemeal is expensive since he eats Ugali, they should have asked him to produce a supermarket receipt showing the latest shopping which unga was an item from his pocket as his shopping is NOT even done by Ida. How then could he know.

By pointing to The Raila/ODM stand in those Ringera lynching escapades and his position now, which came to light (only after this matter is highlighted), which is exactly what media should be doing, propaganda or not. Raila fed the Media fodder and comes out crying victim when media does its work.

Owners (and other gatekeepers) will come in on choice of what stories to cover or not, how an issue is covered, how many times and the follow up stories on that matter.

On a rating The Raila story due to prominence of the subject and the fact that he still is assumed to be horbouring ambition forstate house residence and a leading contender, is that kind of story that should have made serious item in all serious news channels. In other societies it would have. So KTN, in my considered opinion were very well within their scope.

But going to all that, we are out of the topic. We were trying to answer the simple question that Raila was misquoted or not. In my opinion he wasnt and I gave my reasons. Misquoting does not necesarily have to do with ownership.

My position being stupid or not, I will leave that to you to pass that judgement.

— On Mon, 1/26/09, Robert Alai wrote:

From: Robert Alai
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 11:22 AM

Nick

KTN is owned by Moi. The worst dictatoor in East Africa for many years. The are people who are orphanes and even baringo people going without food because of Moi. Now they are also trying to revenge because of the Michuki raid. I think that you look very very stupid when you get into Media propaganda without getting to know who they aare acting for.

I dont support Raila on this. Infact I want him to be held accountaable. But Oyoo you will look like a fool when you realise that KTN is a propaganda machine which is well oiled and run by people whom are not for the betterment of Kenya. Sometime back I thought that KTN, Nation and Royal Media were. No they are not. Its a bunch of desperados on the loose

Who owns the media in Kenya? Macharia, Moi, Agha Khan and the Government.

Alai

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 7:24 PM, nicholas oyoo wrote:

Misquoted wapi, on the screen? Ok lets put his attack on context. there was a Newshot feature that brought back the Ringera onslaught. we all remember ODM stopping trafiic in nairobi baying for Ringera Blood. This was because the media were asking how come they are sitting pretty and conmfortably saying The Same Ringera they wanted out was investigating? he also refered to thosethings that are happening as trivial. Then he goes to Kibera and spends more than 2minutes attacking KTN. some misquoting if you ask me.

— On Mon, 1/26/09, david bett wrote:

From: david bett
Subject: Re: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 8:16 AM

Misquoted? It is on the web, we can replay his words. I will check again and be back. The guy is also intoxicated with desire for power. We can no longer trust any of the current politicians, not even one. We must go for brand new breed or we are doomed and hopeless to remain only scums of the universe.

— On Mon, 1/26/09, Harriet Watindi wrote:

From: Harriet Watindi
Subject: Raila Misquaoted
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 10:39 AM

By the way wanabidii wacheni hasira mingi about Raila and his so called ‘new position on the media’ the guy has not changed. He was only misquoted by the media as they have been known to do from time to time.

You can restore the confidence you had in the jamaa.

Re: Arrest this crook in Suba.

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:23:28 -0800 [05:23:28 PM CST]
From: abel oriri
Subject: Re: Arrest this crook in Suba.

Thanks for exposing such criminals. This man is evil who deserve to be in prison and not teaching any child not alone walking our street..he is a pedophile and must be prosecuted. I would like to contribute funds towards this child return to school

Odoyo

Cleveland

— On Mon, 1/26/09, Dhiamby@ . . . wrote:

From: Dhiamby@ . . .
Subject: Arrest this crook in Suba.
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 3:48 PM

Readers,

It is very sad indeed of what I read in the standard newspaper of today 1-26-09 of the Plight of this innocent girl in Suba district. The girl was aformer pupil at Kamgere Primary School in Suba District and she sat her KCPE LAST YEAR 2008. She passed and was supposed to join form one this year 2009 but unfortunately some fool or crook in the name of her former Teacher lied or tricked her that he is going to help with school fees to join secondary school only to learn that she is asecond wife to that idiot.This innocent child is an orphan and she is crying for education. It sounds like her immediate relatives are not aware of their rights and they are involving Sub Chief who is probably afraid that this crook/ teacher is more educated than him.This is acriminal case that needs immediate Police involement. This teacher needs to be in Jail and he is not a material that should be trusted with any child.

Higher Offices like District Education Office or Provincial Rducation Office need to be contacted with this case for appropriate action incuding interdiction, termination and may be jail.

Thanks

Odhiambo Omolo.

RAILA JOINS MICHUKI AS A PRIME ENEMY OF THE MEDIA

MR. RAILA, SORRY, THE MEDIA WILL SURVIVE

While human history is made purely of tribulations and jubilations, the greatest threat in any one’s life is when once a friend turns into own wounded enemy. The Kenyan Media has had it rough historically in its long walk to freedom. During the Moi regime, many media houses and personalities faced all sorts of harassment. Journalists and writers were frequently harassed, their homes ransacked and sometimes their lives put to danger. The tall terror and dreaded Nyayo house, hosted some media personalities and the torture chambers injected its full pangs of atrocities in the life of these men and women of the fourth Estate.

The renowned and seasoned journalist, the late Giceru spent part of his adult life in wheel chair courtesy of state repression and brutality. That is the kind of the cloud that has darkened this sensitive and informative fraternity. So the media which has been the voice and the eye of a common man even when times are tough and rough has not had its share of success so easily.

In the recent past, Kenyans thought that the dark days are gone and forgotten and that is why they stood up against the so called communication bill 2009, because nobody wants to imagine a country without a free media. But on Sunday, in Kamkunji Kibera something happened that stirred the anger and surprised the emotions of this nation Raila Odinga made a threat; a threat to our Media fraternity.

The threats unleashed by Mr. Raila claiming to a crowd that he would teach certain media outlet a lesson should not be treated lightly. It should not be treated with any form of simplicity but as complex and deep rooted spikes erected on the slippery road of the democratic gains made by the country and media fraternity in general.

The most disheartening thing is that the threats have been issued at a time when the country is surging forth from the disdains of the post election violence manifested in hunger and starvation, a calamity that has badly rocked this nation to the core. But the worst is that it comes from someone who has been purporting and masquerading to be a true defender of democracy. As if that is not enough, he can afford to deny a day later that he was misquoted. If a handful crowd and little power could make Raila behaved as he did then we better count him as a spent force. Kenya need new and untainted leaders who will not only recognize own mistakes but also accept to be corrected.

It is said that power corrupts, and that absolute power corrupts absolutely. And true to the words, Raila has shown exactly that he can forget that first of the role the media played on him and the crew in the eve of the year 2007, when he had no friend except the Media who highlighted the anomalies within the ECK. He has forgotten the many other battles that the media has helped him to fight.

Allow me to remind Raila of a story which is told in the bible of a king named Soul. Soul loved music so much from a young man called David, until such a time that he came to realize that David was not just a music boy, but a king material. He decides to turn against David, but in the end this did not deter David from becoming a king.

Just like the story of David and Soul, Media will survive and occupy its rightful position in this society, in this age. The media survived the gallows of Nyayo house and Nyayo regime, the media survived Michuki and the Arturs; it will definitely survive Raila Odinga.

Raila’s threat is like a kick of a dying horse; a horse that served the master so well only to throw vain kicks when it is on her homestretch to death. But Raila should be reminded that the Media role is not to protect anyone, its mandate is to inform societies and transform communities. Besides, the days that the culture of impunity survived are long gone. Kenyan has a right to know what or who causes havoc, hunger and starvation. It is suppose to generate for public knowledge all filth that litter all government ranks and departments. Media safeguards the people and hold leaders into accountability. In one day, Raila having denied that he was misquoted, he need to be reminded that he even used his finger to tap the said media house that he took the offence with. Through media citizens have a right to know what goes round the life and service of any public office holder and we have a right as a people to be served well by those we call leaders.

Additionally, if Raila and other leaders think that the media is the only enemy they have, then they will have to do their homework better. The National Youth Convention, The Partnership for change, the One Million Change Makers, the Mass Group, the 3 Million Movement, The Liberators Movement, G’ Pange generation, Make Obama in Kenya initiative, are just to mention a few of the organized peoples groups which are willing to see a change of leadership anchored on generational promise and power. The writing are on the wall, and we must be grateful that the coalition government occurred, for it has given people a chance to know the true characters of all our entire leadership; they have one character in common; striving in threats, impunity, corruption and bad governance.

To the Media, let it be known to you that you are not alone in this. Kenyans will stand firm with you and the talk in the streets bear no good report to the politicians. Media will stand and survive no matter what they do and say.

Yours faithfully

Signed

OULU GPO

P.O Box 4598-00200
Nairobi,Kenya
Tel. 202 202 6
Mobile. +254 722 214 869

“Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you’re a man,you take it.” Malcolm X

– – –
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:11:19 -0800 [03:11:19 PM CST]
From: “Oulu Paul O.”
Subject: RAILA JOINS MICHUKI AS A PRIME ENEMY OF THE MEDIA

Re: My dream Kenyan Government

Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:18:20 -0800 [02:18:20 PM CST]
From: otieno sungu
Subject: Re: My dream Kenyan Government

Mburu dear,

Nobody wanted this coalition government in the 1st place, it was forced on us by stolen elections. Otherwise, the ideal one is where we have one president, duly elected without any manipulation, sworn in in broad daylight and celebrated locally and internationally.

I agree with you brother, the thieves of elections should keep their fingers far far away next time..

Sungu.
Juba.

— On Mon, 1/26/09, Mburu wrote:

From: Mburu
Subject: My dream Kenyan Government
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 12:32 PM

Wanabidii,

For the last 18 years, we’ve experienced a political egoism characterized by individualism.

As a legally recognized Kenyan, I wish to state my kind of a government which will be stronger and hopefully, deliver the Kenya we want.

First we maintain the three arms of government (Executive, Judiciary and the Legislative)

The changes I propose are as follows:

EXECUTIVE:

The Executive will comprise of the President and Ministers, who are not MPs. Instead, they are people who have experience in specific tasks such as public health, Information etc. They would be vetted by the Parliament, of course as is the trend. The President is elected by the public on a popular vote of say 52% against the closest rival. The President will also not be an MP but he/she would be presiding over the state opening of parliament and assenting to bills.

LEGISLATURE

The Legislature would comprise of elected people, whose basic education is a diploma (not because one is a village elder!) in any field but public administration be made compulsory. These guys are a real illiterates when you look at their CVs!

Now for the Judiciary, I need to do more research on this except we need a deputy CJ.

In summary, we eliminate the offices of the PM and the Head of the Civil Service(no hard feelings to the current office holders to the said positions) and do away with the coalition government. They’ve caused pain in the public than we anticipated to see!

Anyone to give me a hand in this idea?

Mburu